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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

New here, had some other fellow members I met up with in Miami tell me great things about the forum and encouraged me to join. After reading numerous threads and absorbing the wealth of knowledge that everyone brings to the table here, it was inevitable that I not only become a member but start to share my experiences as well. The following post's purpose is to share my transformation that I had to go through in transitioning from college into the real world. Any advice, similar experiences, or anything you guys want to contribute please feel free to do so.

Anyways, I moved down to Miami end of August for grad school and was a little hard at first to adjust to the fast pace life after moving from NC, especially after attending a small private school in a small town. I realized that I had to change a few things up if I wanted to have any chance with the kind of girls that I was encountering almost on a daily basis. First and foremost I had to get rid of my beta tendencies. This meant:

1. ditch all past relationships from college that I was clinging on to, these relationships were long-distance and even though the girls were hot, it wasn't worth the time and heartache in dealing with women's unstable emotions
2. eliminate any approach-anxiety that I had...consider myself the prize (not the woman)
3. realize that the real-world (club/bar game) is much different than being in college...college sorostitutes are very different than women are in real life
4. understand what it takes to make the female's hamster spin by giving them the alternative of being direct and upfront version of what I do, where I live, etc. which is to bullshit them with coy and cunning hints at these "shit-tests", which is a lot more enjoyable in the long-run. For example, I say I live on the beach which I do...she then asks oh really what apartment? I then proceed to tell her, "no, no, no I actually live in a castle...she then looks confused...I say it really is quite simple, "I have to make a big enough sand castle every night to be able to fit inside of it . She gets pissed and moves on to the next "shit-test" and asks what I do...I tell her, "well because of my living situation, I travel the world building sand castles professionally...it's quite a lucrative lifestyle (pause...then wink)" at that point she either gives up and leaves or she's loving the banter
5. and lastly, update my wardrobe (acquire more suits/get a better sense of style), hence quit acting as if I'm still in a fraternity (polo, brooks brothers, etc.)

I'm not gonna say this was an easy road and will take only a few months as it did for me to go through the transformation. Honestly when I started to go out at first with these things in my head I questioned almost every move I made with the phrase, "was this beta?". I was essentially starting from scratch as far as my social was concerned. I had to day game like a mother fucker on and off campus (learned a few techniques compliments of Giovanny on campus game) and be as friendly as possible without being labeled as a "nice guy".

One thing I started to notice was that by living in a bigger city that has a plentiful abundance of beautiful women and more things to do, contributes to the transformation from being a beta/white knight to becoming an alpha. I see no other way to get with high quality women besides possibly trying internet dating, which I refuse to do as it eliminates approach game and is a cop out in tricking your mind into perceiving that the internet game can be translated into real-world scenarios. One really has no choice but to start to become accustomed to being an alpha if one wants to have any chance of surviving in a dog-eat-dog city like Miami.

Having a brother who I live with now, only a year older than me, definitely helped me see the light as far as really understanding the female psyche (which I thought I knew after majoring in psychology). I'm not gonna lie, at first I was very reluctant to my brother's lifestyle because naturally any new kind of technique feels awkward at first and I didn't want to admit that some of the actions and value he was portraying actually got girls' panties wet. But after going out with him enough times and displaying these same characteristics myself, I started to immediately accept them into my "arsenal". I believe that one actually has to go out there and physically display these alpha tendencies to believe that they do in fact work. I also find myself having to speak Spanish almost every time I go out, so I suggest that one has working knowledge of some of the main languages of the world in big cities as you encounter many different women from many different countries.

It is very self-rewarding knowing that because of the transformation is has now led me to have 3 dates lined up with at least 8s or better from all different countries in the next coming nights. Hopefully with my logistics and running some of Tuth's first date bang game, I can not only pull at least 2 out of these 3 girls back to my place but also potentially bang them. I will keep you guys posted on how they go, and eventually post a data sheet for some good hot-spots where I swooped these girls numbers from.
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

Appreciate the info man. Its pretty Inspiring.... especially when you describe how awkward it seemed at first, until you acted it out numerous times. I'm currently in that awkward stage now. Definitely helps to hear that its completely normal.
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

Quote: (12-27-2012 01:54 AM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

Appreciate the info man. Its pretty Inspiring.... especially when you describe how awkward it seemed at first, until you acted it out numerous times. I'm currently in that awkward stage now. Definitely helps to hear that its completely normal.

Yea, man. Just like anything you want to learn in life. Practice makes perfect. You may start out rough meaning getting with 5s, 6s, and 7s, but eventually once you start perfecting your game you will be getting those 8s+. If you're willing to put in the hard work, life is rewarding in more ways than you may know [Image: wink.gif]
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

Just remember there are many ways to skin a cat. The best way is the way that works for you. A lot of guys don't factor in their personality but it can either help you or hinder you depending on what kind of game you run.
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Quote: (12-26-2012 10:33 PM)Chrexx Wrote:  

New here, had some other fellow members I met up with in Miami tell me great things about the forum and encouraged me to join. After reading numerous threads and absorbing the wealth of knowledge that everyone brings to the table here, it was inevitable that I not only become a member but start to share my experiences as well. The following post's purpose is to share my transformation that I had to go through in transitioning from college into the real world. Any advice, similar experiences, or anything you guys want to contribute please feel free to do so.

Anyways, I moved down to Miami end of August for grad school and was a little hard at first to adjust to the fast pace life after moving from NC, especially after attending a small private school in a small town. I realized that I had to change a few things up if I wanted to have any chance with the kind of girls that I was encountering almost on a daily basis. First and foremost I had to get rid of my beta tendencies. This meant:

1. ditch all past relationships from college that I was clinging on to, these relationships were long-distance and even though the girls were hot, it wasn't worth the time and heartache in dealing with women's unstable emotions
2. eliminate any approach-anxiety that I had...consider myself the prize (not the woman)
3. realize that the real-world (club/bar game) is much different than being in college...college sorostitutes are very different than women are in real life
4. understand what it takes to make the female's hamster spin by giving them the alternative of being direct and upfront version of what I do, where I live, etc. which is to bullshit them with coy and cunning hints at these "shit-tests", which is a lot more enjoyable in the long-run. For example, I say I live on the beach which I do...she then asks oh really what apartment? I then proceed to tell her, "no, no, no I actually live in a castle...she then looks confused...I say it really is quite simple, "I have to make a big enough sand castle every night to be able to fit inside of it . She gets pissed and moves on to the next "shit-test" and asks what I do...I tell her, "well because of my living situation, I travel the world building sand castles professionally...it's quite a lucrative lifestyle (pause...then wink)" at that point she either gives up and leaves or she's loving the banter
5. and lastly, update my wardrobe (acquire more suits/get a better sense of style), hence quit acting as if I'm still in a fraternity (polo, brooks brothers, etc.)

I'm not gonna say this was an easy road and will take only a few months as it did for me to go through the transformation. Honestly when I started to go out at first with these things in my head I questioned almost every move I made with the phrase, "was this beta?". I was essentially starting from scratch as far as my social was concerned. I had to day game like a mother fucker on and off campus (learned a few techniques compliments of Giovanny on campus game) and be as friendly as possible without being labeled as a "nice guy".

One thing I started to notice was that by living in a bigger city that has a plentiful abundance of beautiful women and more things to do, contributes to the transformation from being a beta/white knight to becoming an alpha. I see no other way to get with high quality women besides possibly trying internet dating, which I refuse to do as it eliminates approach game and is a cop out in tricking your mind into perceiving that the internet game can be translated into real-world scenarios. One really has no choice but to start to become accustomed to being an alpha if one wants to have any chance of surviving in a dog-eat-dog city like Miami.

Having a brother who I live with now, only a year older than me, definitely helped me see the light as far as really understanding the female psyche (which I thought I knew after majoring in psychology). I'm not gonna lie, at first I was very reluctant to my brother's lifestyle because naturally any new kind of technique feels awkward at first and I didn't want to admit that some of the actions and value he was portraying actually got girls' panties wet. But after going out with him enough times and displaying these same characteristics myself, I started to immediately accept them into my "arsenal". I believe that one actually has to go out there and physically display these alpha tendencies to believe that they do in fact work. I also find myself having to speak Spanish almost every time I go out, so I suggest that one has working knowledge of some of the main languages of the world in big cities as you encounter many different women from many different countries.

It is very self-rewarding knowing that because of the transformation is has now led me to have 3 dates lined up with at least 8s or better from all different countries in the next coming nights. Hopefully with my logistics and running some of Tuth's first date bang game, I can not only pull at least 2 out of these 3 girls back to my place but also potentially bang them. I will keep you guys posted on how they go, and eventually post a data sheet for some good hot-spots where I swooped these girls numbers from.
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

Nothing wrong with being in a fraternity or wearing polos. I just dropped three suits off at a pricey tailor yesterday, doesn't make me more of a man.

Refinement, my dear boy, is a process you undergo -- not an image you can don.

Also I've been thinking about something. Men have a hamster too. It's called an ego. Both of these things keep people from accepting reality. Neither is worth much. This is why I don't like to think in terms of things like alpha and beta. Instead I focus on my accomplishments and my goals. The rest follows.
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BETA to ALPHA transformation experience

@Prince - Please don't quote long posts for a one liner reply. It's annoying and disrupts the thread. Thanks.

Team Nachos
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Prince of Poundtown: Great handle

Contributor at Return of Kings.  I got banned from twatter, which is run by little bitches and weaklings. You can follow me on Gab.

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