[Courage Reborn]

^beat me to it

[blkgatsby]

(12-26-2013 10:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

I had a friend of mine just turn 35. An elderly woman asked her to stay the night on Christmas so that she wouldn't be alone. That elderly woman was a successful business lady and never married. No kids, no husband, only a cat and some nieces/nephews.

The 35 year old friend said to me, "I'm really scared that that is going to be me one day."

Spinsters recognize spinsters?

All women fear being alone and unrecognizable. The next fear is being unrecognizable with a man that doesn't get her loins wet for the rest of their lives.

Pretty sure that no one wants to end up alone in the last stages of their lives. Personally I see game as a game of musical chairs, and once the music stops and you don't have a chair you're screwed. Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

[Mr. Butterworth]

at the end of the day it doesn't even matter... because you'll eventually get tired of the pussy regardless of notch count or how great she is in bed...

K.I.M (keep it moving)

[RawGod]

(12-26-2013 04:29 PM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

How about 45 and still having sex with a regular procession of 20 year olds, including long term relationships with the best of them? Think bigger.

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

(12-26-2013 04:29 PM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

(12-26-2013 10:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

I had a friend of mine just turn 35. An elderly woman asked her to stay the night on Christmas so that she wouldn't be alone. That elderly woman was a successful business lady and never married. No kids, no husband, only a cat and some nieces/nephews.

The 35 year old friend said to me, "I'm really scared that that is going to be me one day."

Spinsters recognize spinsters?

All women fear being alone and unrecognizable. The next fear is being unrecognizable with a man that doesn't get her loins wet for the rest of their lives.

Pretty sure that no one wants to end up alone in the last stages of their lives. Personally I see game as a game of musical chairs, and once the music stops and you don't have a chair you're screwed. Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

Looks fun enough. Besides, there are enough chairs for everyone.

[TheRookie]

Doesn't matter unless you are looking for a wife or girlfriend. Assume it's a high number and you are pleasantly surprised when she is inexperienced.

[Mr. Butterworth]

I always assume they've been fucked from here to kingdom come and back... if not, good I suppose....

just serve up the pussy and blowjobs properly and I'm good

[horn]

(12-18-2012 08:22 PM)godofwar Wrote:  

how many dicks do you guys think the average American 25 year old female has had in her lifetime? Her own level of attractiveness makes a difference I think, so lets say 5, 7, and 9 for a quick analysis.

I would say 5 has had less than 7 due to lack of the best options. A 7 can usually pull a guy out of her relationship range for a ONS, so that's not an issue for a 7. I think a 9 has had less cocks than a 5 because she can afford to be picky, and she can pretty much always come back for more, who's going to deny a ONS with a 9? and even a lot of red pill dudes wouldn't mind having a LTR with a 9 for a bit.

so 9<5<7

So, just looking at 7's-

I think a party chick has had close to fifty, party chick who started really early closer to triple digits.

The average girl has probably had one or two serious relationships and a string of mini-relationships, along with a handful of ONS. so maybe 15-30 range.

The shy, quiet, non-partier who doesn't go to bars has probably had around 6-12 cocks inside her.

I don't really see it going less than that for a 7.

What do you guys think? At what point do you consider a LTR (for a bit, not marriage...) a turnoff once you get a general idea of how many she's had?

What's a lot? What's a little?

Ideally, I would like less than 5 (or none really). But that seems impossible to find, I think I just need to start looking much younger than 24-25.

I'm 24, for whoever's asking.

a) doesn't matter
b) you're not dating the average girl, you're dating a specific one
c) depends on her individual sex drive and commitment drive,
d) your numbers seem awfully high to me, and I live in the northeast.

I mean, a girl could easily have one bf in HS, one in college, and one more post-grad, that's 3 by 25. Many girls, hot or otherwise, like to wife up instead of sleeping around.

Obviously, she could have 50 guys in her by then, but it's very unlikely. Even club sluts like to hook-up with the same guys in their rotation they like best [i.e. the Alphas]. They are not men - not looking for a totally different guy every single time out.

I agree the 9 has likely had the least.

The real question, if you are worried, is simply is she into LTRs or partying as hard as possible? You may not want to start dating a girl who just got out of a 2-4 yr relationship, and I don't blame you, but if you want a lower notch count....it's probably her.

[Christian McQueen]

"If you have these kinds of questions running through your head, it means you need to read more on this forum and that you are a newbie. You need to take the things we talk about and try them out.

My prescription is that anytime one of these thoughts come up, you have to go fuck ten girls."

^Preach Soup.

A. Who gives a fuck unless you're marrying her?
B. You're never really going to know the truth.
C. When you have enough shit going on in your own life and your door hinges need oil from the continual parade of hotties coming and going, then you really don't give a fuck.

[horn]

(12-26-2013 04:29 PM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

Pretty sure that no one wants to end up alone in the last stages of their lives. Personally I see game as a game of musical chairs, and once the music stops and you don't have a chair you're screwed. Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

You'd be surprised how many 40-yr old guys are dating 20-yr old girls. Both sides are making a good trade. The girls are sick of fist-pumping frat bros, and the guys are sick of aging former hot girls who are no longer hot, even if they are not bitchy.

[The Beast1]

Guess I'd like to actually get married and have a family. Yeah I know it's not the goal of most people here, but it's a hard thing to shake out. Shit like this just makes me disillusioned and not want to bother.

[MHaes]

Someone on the forum said it before, "I'm not gonna be her first, I'm not gonna be her last, so what does it matter to me?"

[Mr. Butterworth]

(12-28-2013 01:33 AM)MHaes Wrote:  

Someone on the forum said it before, "I'm not gonna be her first, I'm not gonna be her last, so what does it matter to me?"

Fin

[horn]

(12-27-2013 10:41 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Guess I'd like to actually get married and have a family. Yeah I know it's not the goal of most people here, but it's a hard thing to shake out. Shit like this just makes me disillusioned and not want to bother.

Say she's 25, is there really a difference to you btw 3 and 6 guys?

Nobody wants the town bicycle, but I'd much rather have a girl who knows what she's doing than the reverse.

[Distant Light]

Do we live in disneyland?

IMO, I think this is a childish discussion, what does it matter? To break it down, I've probably choked, slapped, bit, hair pulled majority of the women I banged. What if she was with only ONE GUY and it was me. Sorry to say bruv, I probably tongue fucked her ass. This isn't disneyland where your worrying about the "town bicycle" (I found that shit to be hilarious and actually going to tell my friends about that saying hahahahaha for some reason it sounded hilarious)

Truth be told YOU NEVER KNOW...

One of my gals was always in long term relationships and probably been with around 10 guys. HOWEVER, while having sex the raw sexual energy is something that always makes me laugh "what if, some husband/boyfriend walked in on his wife passionately getting fucked in this manner". He'd probably think she took a thousand dicks of the world.

Then you see the bitchy model chick who always going home alone, not realizing she is an escort and has been with a handful of men.

P.S...Only generalization I've found is the fact that average women have a much vibrant sex life than hot chicks. Many of my girls went months without having sex. My bisexual friend always used to tell chicks "if you want dick...go to a shit bar..." because men are too intimidated to go into mixed groups or cliquish venues. I used to bring a few average women out WAYYY BACK and EVERY NIGHT SHE FOOLED AROUND. She currently has a BF now.

P.S.S...When studies show the average sex partner is 4-5 whatever...They need to exclude all religious reasons and people living in rural areas. I can't even imagine a chick who is sexually active only having 4-5 partners. (They must be sticking all sorts of things inside to get themselves off if that were the case)

[blkgatsby]

I don't know Distant Light… I went to a Catholic school for high school, and girls there are either prudes or sluts. It's likely the people with 4-5 partners aren't sexually motivated…or they are ugly as shit haha

[markus85]

(12-25-2013 11:32 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-25-2013 04:03 AM)markus85 Wrote:  

I would hear them getting smashed by minimum one guy a week...I was with that girl for two years so average that out lol

Wow interesting story. When you look back on it , does it seem they were getting pumped and dumped and kind of wished they had a guy longer term, or were they themselves wanting different guys all the time?

I would say it was a pretty even combination of both. They definitely went out on the hunt at times while other times they would enter mini relationships with guys who I would meet and you I could the guys were going to bail soon.

They were also ugly and I noticed their room and appearance were often a mess...it reflected how they treated others as they had no respect for themselves (they hated me for no reason).

[horn]

Somebody else already pointed out the math on this: most girls have fewer partners than guys, except for the girls that are VERY active and have 50-100+ partners. So, the median number of guys a girl has slept with is even lower than the average.

I also don't know why you would exclude rural areas. Girls are more than willing to drive 60 miles to get laid. One of my hookups used to drive 2.5 hrs to see me on weekends. And she had a very low N -- so when she found someone she was going to keep going back to him, not look for a new guy.

[The Beast1]

(12-28-2013 11:44 AM)horn Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:41 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Guess I'd like to actually get married and have a family. Yeah I know it's not the goal of most people here, but it's a hard thing to shake out. Shit like this just makes me disillusioned and not want to bother.

Say she's 25, is there really a difference to you btw 3 and 6 guys?

Nobody wants the town bicycle, but I'd much rather have a girl who knows what she's doing than the reverse.

I'm OK with that, but in my experience I tend to attract bicyles hence my drive to be able to flesh them out before I make a mistake. I got fooled once, never again.

[iknowexactly]

(12-27-2013 10:17 PM)horn Wrote:  

(12-26-2013 04:29 PM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

You'd be surprised how many 40-yr old guys are dating 20-yr old girls. Both sides are making a good trade. The girls are sick of fist-pumping frat bros, and the guys are sick of aging former hot girls who are no longer hot, even if they are not bitchy.

I'm the resident balloon-popper on this, but even if this is true you've got to provision for the future if you're 40.

In the US and for the most part Ukraine too, I've see a huge decrease in attention from ( prolonged interested looks) from 20 YO as I aged 45 to 55, it happens quick when you're working your ass off to retire at a reasonable age, I'd say attention from peak age chicks went from 20-40 % to maybe 3-5%. It's not linear. You go from "quite a bit older" to "clearly way older" and there's social pressure not to go for it even if she's got a fetish. If you want to provision for the longest period of hot chicks work hard young and save money 20-35, then be out of the Anglosphere by 50. I was too busy playing the guitar like a lunatic to work hard.

[iknowexactly]

(12-26-2013 07:29 PM)ChocolateCockOfZeus Wrote:  

(12-26-2013 04:29 PM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

(12-26-2013 10:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

I had a friend of mine just turn 35. An elderly woman asked her to stay the night on Christmas so that she wouldn't be alone. That elderly woman was a successful business lady and never married. No kids, no husband, only a cat and some nieces/nephews.

The 35 year old friend said to me, "I'm really scared that that is going to be me one day."

Spinsters recognize spinsters?

All women fear being alone and unrecognizable. The next fear is being unrecognizable with a man that doesn't get her loins wet for the rest of their lives.

Pretty sure that no one wants to end up alone in the last stages of their lives. Personally I see game as a game of musical chairs, and once the music stops and you don't have a chair you're screwed. Don't know about you, but I don't want to be 45 and still hitting on 20 yr olds.

Looks fun enough. Besides, there are enough chairs for everyone.

This is absolute Male Hamster Food ™. These guys are some of the very most famous guys in the world, maybe five women in the world have the capability to reach fame like this so it is an unbelievable drug for them to be near it as they will never, ever have it.

You have to go to Asia, as I plan on doing, and possibly to remote areas, to get really prime women when you're >65 . Even on Asian dating sites women are dialing down the max age. The internet is making YoungTallCool the world standard, but there's still time for everyone over 20 to kill it the rest of their lives given a little luck, just not in Anglosphere unless rihc/famous 1/1000 of 1%-er.

Just start young, get famous/money, failing fame save money and get to Asia.

[kosko]

I used to care about this shit until I started swinging. Some girls can go twice a month and swoop a new dude, that's 24 a year which she won't count since it's a swingers club. Don't forget the 2 ex boyfriends, and the 4-6 drunken romps and now she is pushing 30+. In a city as big as Toronto with women having so much power it would be hard for her NOT to have 30-50 bangs under her belt by 25.

I don't even care anymore. As long as I am 'first' or getting the kitty fresh I couldn't care less. I don't want seconds which is what I mean by first. Some girls go on rank romps where they will fuck multiple dudes in a night at the club. That's rank and nasty for both sides. I swoop her when she gets in the door, have my way with her, and toss her aside. It's easy to spot when a girl is scheming for more D, women acting up and playing up the promiscuous activity are way worse then men. The shady car salesman vibe is hard to miss, versus me when I am on a roll with multiple women in the club I am very calm and way more dialed in. A woman acts completely shady and a mess and only the thirsty bottom feeder dudes in the club go for it in those cases as any dude with a ounce of game can spot the flags and dismiss her. This is probably the best value of the swinger lifestyle is that I get unrestricted access to look at the female carnal hamster in action with very little BS and filters. You see how the inner whore of a female acts out in a open setting and sample size that is greater than 1 (the girl(s) your dealing with at any set moment). Women have shitty game. Period. Girls whom ride rank amounts of cock are easy to spot but you can't really do much because these girls, many of them, in the real world window dress as professionals and decent women, but are meat hungry sluts underneath it all. They are great for sex but would be dubious for LTRs but window dress it all all so well. It's just stress and wasted energy to care unless you have prospects of trying lock her down.

In Toronto women recycle exes to keep the numbers suppressed. I have two female aquatints whom are rank hoes and they save face by rotating their exes around. Toronto men will take that arrangement but it seems toxic and unsustainable. She's an ex for a reason, cut her off and go find something fresh.

Most women go trough fevers though, as they will burn the barn down for 3 months and fuck anything in site that gives her the slightest tingle. My whore of a friend says sometimes she will go 5-6 days strait with banging dudes, keep it up for a few weeks and then her cooch goes cold for another few weeks where anything then the odd service bang repulses her. Maybe after that time she dupes a guy into dating her and the cycle repeats itself after she burns that new LTR out.

All interesting shit but useless to stress over. I assume no woman, unless she is from a rank religious or immigrant upbringing is a Virgin past age 21. I just assume that roll on as usual. Marrying is one thing but or fucking not really checking for one to be honest.

[soup]

Kosko I'm with you on this. Instead of making a thread about how many guys a girl has fucked, might be better to make a thread in how to spot girls that just had another man's cum in her mouth.

Last year I fucked a raging slut who was very vocal about her sexual activities. She even had a date lined up for later that night after she sucked my dick dry.

That guy was probably kissing her that night, even though she left my house "smelling like cock".

[urbannomad]

   I feel the need to protect his Judge Joe brown honor, He was drunk and carrying on about his wife to fans who want a photo.

[iknowexactly]

The numbers are just sort of a symptom that the chick sees men as sexual appliances and has lost her sensitivity and femininity. Nothing wrong with that it takes all kinds, just don't expect a shred of maternal softness in her.