[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 09:17 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 08:52 PM)Brian Wrote:  

its hypocrisy defined, which is ironic because Roosh talks about how much he hates hypocrites, yet there is a clear double standard when it comes to what minorities on this board can get away with. i've been suspended multiple times for things that werent that big a deal. its why i dont even post much here anymore - the only reason i'm bothering to now is to show you how blatant it is.

as i said earlier, had i posted a video of blacks doing stupid things and referred to them as hoodrats i guarantee i would have been suspended, while race trolls like Athlone do it regularly. hypocrisy defined. you guys have a good night.

I gotta agree with Brian.

As much as I enjoy Athlone's posts, he is in a ton of race related threads. I don't consider him a race troll, I just believe this is a topic he is passionate about.

I have seen Hooligan Harry called out on some of his posts in race threads. I have seen Brian get called out. I haven't seen Athlone and some of the others called out.

I don't think HH and Brian were doing anything different.

El Mech gets away with those threads because he is darker than Choche.

You're reading selectively. Athlone's been called a race troll more than once. And being in, and debating in threads about race means he should get called out? How many race threads has he started? How often has he interjected race, as opposed to responding to another post? Bottom line, it's often open season on black women on this forum, in any number of contexts, and white guys generally treat anything negative said about black women as fact. Sometimes, us black guys agree, sometimes we don't. If anyone disagrees with and responds to a post, I don't see the problem with that. If getting "called out" alone makes someone a troll, well, that means a lot of folks here are trolls. If Roosh has issues with Brian, then but not with others, he needs to go to Roosh with that privately.

[el mechanico]

(12-16-2012 09:31 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:28 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I used to think it was a double standard.

But, now I realize that its just a different standard.

Just like the male sluts vs. female sluts "double standard." Its not a double standard, its a different standard.

Lets be honest, if blacks people talk shit about black people, no one cares.

But, if white people talk shit about black people its a problem.

Its a different standard. Isn't that the way it is?

Yep, that is the way I see it. Exactly the same way out in the real world.

Same way when black people talk about white people. A lot of white people will get upset but would not have a problem if it was said by a white person.

This standard holds true for all skin color variations of Latino males as well.

[worldwidetraveler]

(12-16-2012 09:32 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

You're reading selectively. Athlone's been called a race troll more than once. And being in, and debating in threads about race means he should get called out? How many race threads has he started? How often has he interjected race, as opposed to responding to another post? Bottom line, it's often open season on black women on this forum, in any number of contexts, and white guys generally treat anything negative said about black women as fact. Sometimes, us black guys agree, sometimes we don't. If anyone disagrees with and responds to a post, I don't see the problem with that. If getting "called out" alone makes someone a troll, well, that means a lot of folks here are trolls. If Roosh has issues with Brian, then but not with others, he needs to go to Roosh with that privately.

Now how would you know what I am reading? Obviously you already have you're mind made up but please don't tell me what I am and not doing.

No, I never said Athlone started race threads. Most of those threads were started on other topics and turned into the racial nonsense. I would bet that the majority of those topics Athlone has jumped in when it went racial.

I haven't seen Athlone called out by Roosh or given a temp ban. I have seen it with HH and Brian.

Maybe I just missed it.

[OGNorCal707]

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

[Brian]

its also becoming more and more obvious there is a lot of animosity towards white men by others on this forum

[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 09:39 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:32 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

You're reading selectively. Athlone's been called a race troll more than once. And being in, and debating in threads about race means he should get called out? How many race threads has he started? How often has he interjected race, as opposed to responding to another post? Bottom line, it's often open season on black women on this forum, in any number of contexts, and white guys generally treat anything negative said about black women as fact. Sometimes, us black guys agree, sometimes we don't. If anyone disagrees with and responds to a post, I don't see the problem with that. If getting "called out" alone makes someone a troll, well, that means a lot of folks here are trolls. If Roosh has issues with Brian, then but not with others, he needs to go to Roosh with that privately.

Now how would you know what I am reading? Obviously you already have you're mind made up but please don't tell me what I am and not doing.

No, I never said Athlone started race threads. Most of those threads were started on other topics and turned into the racial nonsense. I would bet that the majority of those topics Athlone has jumped in when it went racial.

I haven't seen Athlone called out by Roosh or given a temp ban. I have seen it with HH and Brian.

Maybe I just missed it.

There's obviously a difference between what they've posted. There's a difference between racist trolling, and engaging in a racial discussion. Maybe that's why some get bans, and others don't. I just have an issue with the premise that Roosh is favoring black guys over white guys. The problem is with the person or persons that make an unrelated thread racial, as opposed to the person that calls bullshit.

[Giovonny]

(12-16-2012 09:46 PM)Brian Wrote:  

its also becoming more and more obvious there is a lot of animosity towards white men by others on this forum

[OGNorCal707]

(12-16-2012 09:46 PM)Brian Wrote:  

its also becoming more and more obvious there is a lot of animosity towards white men by others on this forum

Too bad Heartiste doesn't have a forum for you to post on, I bet you'd find a lot of "like-minded" individuals over there.

[worldwidetraveler]

(12-16-2012 09:47 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

There's obviously a difference between what they've posted. There's a difference between racist trolling, and engaging in a racial discussion. Maybe that's why some get bans, and others don't. I just have an issue with the premise that Roosh is favoring black guys over white guys. The problem is with the person or persons that make an unrelated thread racial, as opposed to the person that calls bullshit.

I never said Roosh was favoring one race over another.

For example: In the HH thread started by B Nilla, Tuth posted a meme that was an obvious race troll. I don't think Brian would have got away with it.

[Screwston]

[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 09:50 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:47 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

There's obviously a difference between what they've posted. There's a difference between racist trolling, and engaging in a racial discussion. Maybe that's why some get bans, and others don't. I just have an issue with the premise that Roosh is favoring black guys over white guys. The problem is with the person or persons that make an unrelated thread racial, as opposed to the person that calls bullshit.

I never said Roosh was favoring one race over another.

Again...did you read Brian's initial complaint? He stated that "minorities" were getting away with things that white guys aren't. You took offense at me questioning what you have read. I apologize for how I might have phrased that. However, just stating that you see a guy posting on race threads as a basis for claiming he should be banned is dubious unless you read back through the thread to see how the discussion ended up where it did. Attempting to set someone straight on a particular issue isn't a problem, but someone dropping unrelated, inflammatory nonsense is the real problem.

[Joga Bonito]

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 09:50 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:47 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

There's obviously a difference between what they've posted. There's a difference between racist trolling, and engaging in a racial discussion. Maybe that's why some get bans, and others don't. I just have an issue with the premise that Roosh is favoring black guys over white guys. The problem is with the person or persons that make an unrelated thread racial, as opposed to the person that calls bullshit.

I never said Roosh was favoring one race over another.

For example: In the HH thread started by B Nilla, Tuth posted a meme that was an obvious race troll. I don't think Brian would have got away with it.

Fair enough, but there are also members that troll each other for fun, and all of us may not be in on the joke.

[worldwidetraveler]

(12-16-2012 09:56 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Again...did you read Brian's initial complaint? He stated that "minorities" were getting away with things that white guys aren't. You took offense at me questioning what you have read. I apologize for how I might have phrased that. However, just stating that you see a guy posting on race threads as a basis for claiming he should be banned is dubious unless you read back through the thread to see how the discussion ended up where it did. Attempting to set someone straight on a particular issue isn't a problem, but someone dropping unrelated, inflammatory nonsense is the real problem.

Did you read the post I responded too? He said there was a bias and I believe there is.

I didn't take offense so no worries.

I never said anyone should be banned. I said I believed there was a bias towards a few members when it comes to race related topics.

Who dropped unrelated inflammatory nonsense?

[Brian]

(12-16-2012 09:57 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

actually, you've got this part ass backwards considering most of the guys traveling to bang chicks are traveling to europe. wake me when Bang Africa is published. hopefully these comments wont get me suspended again.

[Screwston]

It's hard being a white guy in 2012 America

[worldwidetraveler]

(12-16-2012 10:05 PM)houston Wrote:  

It's hard being a white guy in 2012 America

Houston, you're not white so you can't talk about them.

[Screwston]

(12-16-2012 10:08 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 10:05 PM)houston Wrote:  

It's hard being a white guy in 2012 America

Houston, you're not white so you can't talk about them.

[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 10:04 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:57 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

actually, you've got this part ass backwards considering most of the guys traveling to bang chicks are traveling to europe. wake me when Bang Africa is published. hopefully these comments wont get me suspended again.

And plenty are traveling to South America also. Point taken regarding Africa, but there are dark women in South America.

[Brian]

(12-16-2012 10:12 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 10:04 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:57 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

actually, you've got this part ass backwards considering most of the guys traveling to bang chicks are traveling to europe. wake me when Bang Africa is published. hopefully these comments wont get me suspended again.

And plenty are traveling to South America also. Point taken regarding Africa, but there are dark women in South America.

yeah, and who are they chasing down there - the light skinned Brazilians and Argentines, not the Peruvians or Bolivians

[worldwidetraveler]

(12-16-2012 10:15 PM)Brian Wrote:  

yeah, and who are they chasing down there - the light skinned Brazilians and Argentines, not the Peruvians or Bolivians

Let's not get carried away. I would be the first person to purchase Bang Africa.

[el mechanico]

(12-16-2012 10:17 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 10:15 PM)Brian Wrote:  

yeah, and who are they chasing down there - the light skinned Brazilians and Argentines, not the Peruvians or Bolivians

Let's not get carried away. I would be the first person to purchase Bang Africa.

I would be first in line for a copy of Bang light skinned Africa

Brian has a point this forum is white girl crazy.

[Timoteo]

(12-16-2012 10:15 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 10:12 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 10:04 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:57 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

actually, you've got this part ass backwards considering most of the guys traveling to bang chicks are traveling to europe. wake me when Bang Africa is published. hopefully these comments wont get me suspended again.

And plenty are traveling to South America also. Point taken regarding Africa, but there are dark women in South America.

yeah, and who are they chasing down there - the light skinned Brazilians and Argentines, not the Peruvians or Bolivians

And it's those light-skinned Brazilians and Argentines that are notoriously more difficult to crack. So for the most part, those aren't the chicks they're ultimately getting their flags from.

[Joga Bonito]

(12-16-2012 10:04 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:57 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:42 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I'll talk shit on black people, or any group of people, (when they deserve it). Redneck white trash, annoying nerdy Asians that suck at driving, lame wanna-be cholo Mexicans, douchey rich Persians.... None are immune.

What I don't do is go around spouting bullshit, about how white men are oppressed, and black people have an unfair advantage... Or what ever other croak of shit conservative Republican, Rush Limbaugh lovers are claiming.

Exactly, the irony of these conservatives on this board is that they're the same ones trying to travel to other countries banging women of cultures and otherwise basking in other the cultures of other countries. All the while, they are also railing against multiculturalism and other euphemisms of being "liberal".

actually, you've got this part ass backwards considering most of the guys traveling to bang chicks are traveling to europe. wake me when Bang Africa is published. hopefully these comments wont get me suspended again.

2 things. If an American goes to Europe he's still going to a place with a culture that is different from his own(hence the word multiculturalism). He surely doesn't have to go to Africa. I mean BKK is a pretty popular destination as well, in addition to Mexico and several Latin American countries(to name a few). The Bang series is based off of where one man wants to go so that's not really indicative of anything besides what Roosh's preferences are. NaughtyNomad has written extensively about banging African chicks. I do recognize that Africa probably isn't as popular as Europe is, but that's not my point.

[Samseau]

(12-16-2012 09:49 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 09:46 PM)Brian Wrote:  

its also becoming more and more obvious there is a lot of animosity towards white men by others on this forum

Too bad Heartiste doesn't have a forum for you to post on, I bet you'd find a lot of "like-minded" individuals over there.

Will heartiste be your go-to comparison whenever you feel like someone violates your PC racial code?

When will you start comparing us to some Nazis?

Honestly, whenever someone starts throwing out racism accusations, I immediately want to stop reading the thread. I know either the accused has to defend himself or look bad, and if guy has to confront his accuser it always starts a race war.

The race-accusing bullshit needs to stop. It's race-trolling and it will always make the forum a worse place.


Let's face it: We are not doing ourselves any favors by infighting over racism. I never see women bicker amongst each other over racial issues, this is strictly a way for men to be divided and conquered.

Think about it, women voted more or less unanimously (65%+) for Obama.

Men voted 50/50, when you combine the races. Whites on one side, non-whites on the other.

So out of a nation of 160+ million men, half of each other will oppose the other half whenever there is the slightest race remark made who might offend someone.

Is it any wonder the feminists have won? They will stand united over all issues, whereas men can be divided along the race issue. Men are petty and stupid, and cannot see the big picture like women do.

Even if men are superior to women on an individual basis, women are superior to men on a collective basis.