[Cincinnatus]

(12-04-2012 01:54 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Shes 35 years old. I consider 21 rather pedestrian unless the girl is 18 years old.

I'll fuck a woman with 21 bangs - but I'll never commit to her or date her exclusively. I think a large number of posters agree with this attitude.

Some time ago, someone on the forum posted a chart showing that the more dicks a woman has had, the more likely she is to initiate divorce. I'm not interested in getting married, but in my book, a woman interested in initiating divorce is not relationship material.

[mistermister]

so wait a second... how many notches would be "acceptable" for a single woman at 35 ?

how does this stuff come up ? i never get into this topic because i find the girl will always drop some number and no matter what it's too high...and then she will hound you for how many women you've banged. it's never a strategic victory.

[Avarence]

(12-03-2012 06:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

So I found out this girl I know has slept with 21 different men. I won't give any details other than she is white, pretty, lives in Europe and is age 35.

Thoughts please?
Would you date?
Would you marry?

[Prophylaxis]

Age is MUCH more of an issue than her notch count

Thread should be 35yo woman

[lavidaloca]

I guess but some people are making it sound like 21 is an ungodly number. Truthfully, usually guys who've been with a lot of woman don't put much thought into a females number. Personally I wouldn't care if a females number was 100+. I also have 0 interest in getting married so that takes that out of the picture. To those of you guys who are regularily travelling to places like SEA and Cuba, DR do you have any idea the amount of men the women have been with there? Literally, if a woman is going with a tourist there theres a very good chance shes been with over 50 guys despite being a young age. Heck, I have friends in Cuba who have racked up over 500 by the time they are 23. (albeit female) I also know males there who have eclipsed 1000 albeit they are in there 40's. I think this is something that bothers people more until they've had a lot of experience with woman or they are looking for a wife. Although I could be wrong on this observation as a couple posters with knowingly high notch counts are bothered by the number in Roosh and Fisto.

But why the heck does one look for a wife with the rates of divorce these days and the precedents being set in the justice system. I can't imagine ever getting married. I personally never ever bare back in Canada. But when I'm abroad all bets are off.

[Jeans]

I don't see how any number of bangs could stop you from wanting to date a woman. I like to hang around girls for as long as I am enjoying their company, who fucking cares? When I tire of them, I drop them cold turkey. It is extremely easy, save the occasional stalker every 10-15 bangs. Is that beta?

Only caveat is that I hope you realize there's no way that she's being honest about the number 21. Including one night stands it's probably about double. A 35 year old woman on the cusp of a possible relationship knows a lot better to be answer that question straight.

[Spike]

(12-04-2012 03:01 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I guess but some people are making it sound like 21 is an ungodly number. Truthfully, usually guys who've been with a lot of woman don't put much thought into a females number. Personally I wouldn't care if a females number was 100+. I also have 0 interest in getting married so that takes that out of the picture. To those of you guys who are regularily travelling to places like SEA and Cuba, DR do you have any idea the amount of men the women have been with there? Literally, if a woman is going with a tourist there theres a very good chance shes been with over 50 guys despite being a young age. Heck, I have friends in Cuba who have racked up over 500 by the time they are 23. (albeit female) I also know males there who have eclipsed 1000 albeit they are in there 40's. I think this is something that bothers people more until they've had a lot of experience with woman or they are looking for a wife. Although I could be wrong on this observation as a couple posters with knowingly high notch counts are bothered by the number in Roosh and Fisto.

A girl with 500 notches at 23? A guy with a 1000 notches at 40? I don't think this thread is about prostitutes and whoremongers.

Whats to believe about notch counts from forum members? I personally don't believe Roosh or Fisto racking up numbers in the high hundreds either. No offense to them but anyone non-famous or very wealthy (which brings up the money vs game debate) going over 200/250 notches is as rare as an Siberian Tiger.

Things might be different if you're a local tanned ripped beach boy living in a holiday paradise such as Greece and Spain in Europe, Bali in Indonesia or Jamaica in the Caribs but in general anyone pulling girls out of bars and clubs in his local hometown is doomed for low notch numbers.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

To throw another wrench into the issue: are you more willing to tolerate a proportionally high number of partners if the girl is young? Would a girl who has already had 10 cocks at age 20 bother you less than the one who has had 10 at age 35?

In other words... do youth and hotness make up for her high number of partners when considering commitment?

[ElJefe]

Agree with Fisto and Roosh.

A girl becomes more and more unreliable the more cock she has had.

Once she is +5, it's over. There is no way on Earth she is going to stay loyal for long periods at a time. She will fall in love with someone else after you, no matter what. I was dating a girl who had 3 before me. She was 19. That was borderline for me.

Serially monogamous girls can be fucked without you having to demonstrate loyalty. Therefore, no loyalty is required - ie. you don't need to marry her to get what you want, which is pussy.

When you ask about marriage, it's because you want to put a leash on that pussy, and keep it to yourself. Understandable, but it comes from an attitude of scarcity, not abundance. Pussy is abundant. High-value girls who will suffer rather than be disloyal are not abundant. A girl who has had that much cock does not place a premium on a man's commitment, and therefore not on her own loyalty either. She thinks a serious relationship will be about feeling good and self-gratification, and not about commitment for good or worse. She's just another hedonist, a female player - but unlike us, completely without self-awareness. I'm not saying no relationship, I'm just saying a serious relationship that will stand the test of time.

[lavidaloca]

Yes neil, you caught me the 500+ is a party girl / occasional trick. I admittedly probably vastly overestimated the number in trying to prove a point. The 1000+ however is a celeb. This is what I heard from his mouth. Of course its probably again vastly overstated. Girls guys are meeting at bars where tourists go, or through online dating sites are going to have a high number of partners if they are good looking. Think about how many tourists they are meeting through there. That was the point I was trying to get at as well as trying to get at the idea that 21 isn't exactly a high number.

[TheMachinist]

For me it all goes back to transparency.I personally don't care about a womens past as long as she doesn't hide or omit pertinent info.What I do care about is truth.I could honestly love a WHORE.Whores are open about what it is they do and why they do it.That honesty allows me to make an informed choice on how to proceed.Your average everyday woman usually won't tell you any sort of truth regarding her sexual past or if she does it will be a half truth, which is as good as a lie.If you wanna know a womans truth you need to find it out as early in a relationship(whatever kind it may be)as possible.The longer you wait to ask questions the more incentive she has to lie or mislead you.Or you could subscribe to the don't ask don't tell therory but if you do that don't be surprised to find out your perfect little princess has been rode hard and put away wet.I know a broad that has let so many men nut in her she had to have a hysterectomy at 25.Her guts were rotted out.Do you think she's forth coming with that info???Nope.She usually waits until months into a serious relationship to tell dudes that she can't reproduce because she used to be a complete slut.

[rudebwoy]

For the record guy's it is a girl I know not thinking of marrying her or any nonsense like that, I was a bit grossed out when I heard 21 notches. I wanted to get other people's reactions, which I certainly did. The 21 number is probably correct because she goes from boyfriend to boyfriend.

I knew another girl who was in the century club for sure, she also had some cancer scare in the uterus and I guess there is a co-relation.

[Jesse33]

(12-03-2012 06:35 PM)murrb Wrote:  

Females: Multiply by 3

Males: Divide by 3

Real talk...probably divide by more for men. Me at least...I don't even know what number I'd pull out if asked. It's been a while since I've been asked.

[Kaizen]

Its entirely personal.

Some guys aren't bothered by this.

I am.

For a pump and dump, I don't care about her body count. She could have fucked 100 guys. For anything more, the lower the better. A girl I was in a relationship with told me she slept with more than 30 guys ...almost vomited right there.

[Moma]

(12-04-2012 11:35 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

Its entirely personal.

Some guys aren't bothered by this.

I am.

For a pump and dump, I don't care about her body count. She could have fucked 100 guys. For anything more, the lower the better. A girl I was in a relationship with told me she slept with more than 30 guys ...almost vomited right there.

How far along the relationship did she tell you? And what did you do after she told you?

[Duke Castile]

Neil, I'm not offended that you have doubts, I'm offended you're doubting me!

Lavidaloca - 21 is a high notch count when you consider dating someone long term. As long as the social dynamic is such that a woman is a "prize" to be won over by a worthy man, she is surrendering herself to him, she is giving her body to him, a woman that has given herself away that number of times cannot ever be truly loyal. There is a scientific component to this as well; the hormone oxytocin that bonds women to men is produced over and over, bonding over and over. That process actually changes the chemistry and the structure of the brain. I believe that process fucks women up on a very deep level after so many times. Women who do this are able to be attached to the next man that gives them a tingle within days of a breakup Rudebwoy was asking if we'd date, marry, etc and that is the paradigm we are answering under. Would I casually hang out with a girl with that many? Of course, but I'd never consider a commitment of any kind. My ex had 16 at 23, when I found out I was physically ill, the thought still bothers me.

[scorpio]

For the record, I've banged chicks with very low partner counts. I didn't think they were suitable for marriage either tbh.

[poutsara]

Thats probably average.

[lavidaloca]

Fair enough, I guess different people have different takes on it. Again, I have near 0 interest in marriage. I'll live with someone for a period of time but marriage nah. I don't really think about numbers and cheating much simply because I believe you should be aiming to be the best man a woman has ever dated so that all the others mean nothing. If a girl told me 50+ and I have heard this before, I probably wouldn't bat an eyelid. I don't have the whole territorial gene that some may have. This personally use to bother me when I had a low notch count. Now I just really don't care. With that said if a girl tells me she has a high notch count or I suspect it I would certainly suggest we each get tested before unprotected sex.

age wise though 35 seems pretty high. Im not sure how old you are yourself Rudebwoy but I haven't seen to many 35 year old woman who I'd rate above a 6. Of course there are exceptions like Sophia Vergara.

I think some people underestimate the ability of men to rack up high notch counts. A very very small percentage of men rack up notch counts that are absurd.

Neil is correct that pulling a very large amount out of your local hometown is far less likely and his math does make sense to a degree that it would be rare for someone to surpass 200-250 notches as given a 20 year player period thats basically 1 a month. But it wouldn't surprise me the least if a couple members have surpassed that amount who are a bit older.

[Spike]

I'm not saying it impossible but it's rare.

[Apollo2]

What's OP's age and notch count?

I know there are a lot of single guys who are virgins or near-virgins (1-3 partners) into their mid-late 20s. Chances are if they're marrying a woman their age, their wife will have had more cocks than they've seen pussy. Wonder how that makes these guys feel?

This is why every young guy should sow their oats while they can, then marry a young virgin or near-virgin in their late 20s or 30s.

Problem is takes effort for the average near-celibate dude to land pussy. It takes no effort at all for a girl to get dick.

[highandtight]

This is an issue that I've dealt with in my past and that I've given a lot of thought to.

Now, I've banged girls of all stripes - virgins, lots of 1-3 partners while in college, and girls with (what I can only imagine) are much higher numbers, both in college, in big cities, overseas, etc. But I just don't see a lot of difference in the girls, at least not a difference that can be explained by notch count. I was the second guy to bang this girl in college and she ran me ragged, flirting with dudes everywhere, and maybe cheating on me, who knows. I've also banged hardened NYC and Chicago girls with much, much higher notch counts that loved me to death and just wanted to settle down.

I agree with some of the comments above noting that the age is a bigger factor than the notch count. Don't know how old you are, but I would be really hesitant to get serious with a girl at that age. She'll want to have kids stat, and you won't have sufficient time with her to know if that's a good idea.

Also, if your notch count is lower, just forget about it. I've done that in my younger days; that is just a mindfu#K. It's funny to me now (I was outraged that my little princess had a count of like 6, LOL). But now that my notch count is high enough that only hookers and true hos will be higher than me, I don't place a lot of value on this number, as long as its reasonable. And I'm in the camp that overall notch count is less important than notch/years actively dating.

[Giovonny]

(12-05-2012 03:25 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

I'm not saying it impossible but it's rare.

I don't think its as rare as you think.

You will be close to 200 in another 10 years or so. Maybe more depending on location.

[spanish_courage]

(12-03-2012 06:35 PM)murrb Wrote:  

Females: Multiply by 3

Males: Divide by 3

+1

[rudebwoy]

(12-05-2012 04:39 PM)Apollo2 Wrote:  

What's OP's age and notch count?

I know there are a lot of single guys who are virgins or near-virgins (1-3 partners) into their mid-late 20s. Chances are if they're marrying a woman their age, their wife will have had more cocks than they've seen pussy. Wonder how that makes these guys feel?

This is why every young guy should sow their oats while they can, then marry a young virgin or near-virgin in their late 20s or 30s.

Problem is takes effort for the average near-celibate dude to land pussy. It takes no effort at all for a girl to get dick.

And who are you again?
Over 40 and notch count - are we in high school!
I repeat I am NOT dating or trying to date the girl in question. I am trying to gauge people's reactions, mine was similar to Fisto's reaction.