Quote: (12-02-2012 11:18 PM)j r Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2012 09:33 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
You wouldn't be the first person that has noted that there's more money in the treatment (keeping you coming back for more and more drugs) than the cure.
If I am wrong about this, I hope the medical professionals will correct, but I don't think that there is much of a difference between "treatment" and "cure." A cure is just a really good treatment. There will likely never be some magic pill that eliminates cancer from the human body. Rather, there are treatments that have different levels of efficacy in forcing cancer into remission and extending life spans.
If there's ever a "cure" for cancer, it probably won't be some wonder drug, but rather a treatment based on repairing things at the genetic level.
But even the current treatments are not even successful. Chemothoery has a poor track record, and only words 2% of the time and yet it is still the go to treatment for Cancer therapy. Many natural treatments are widely available but are not used as if you crossed into the natural world it would open a can of worms the Mega Cancer Industry does not want to open. Once you open the natural route (which is illegal) it automatically is better then the traditional nuclear-chemical route and would thus need more research and investigation.
Steve Jobs is a classic example of this. He died from Pancreatic Cancer and lived a healthy life for 7 years + on natural treatments. He outlived the survival and outlook forecasts at his condition and though hid condition did deteriorate and though he did seek traditional treatments in his final months the spin is that he died because he did not seek "treatment" sooner when it was in fact his natural treatments that keep him alive for all those years prior.
The meme is that "Steve Jobs regretted now seeking treatments sooner" But this is a doublespeak that does not make any sense. Beucase it his the natural treatments that kept him alive in the first place form his diagnosis PRIOR to 2003. Another twist of speak because Steve Jobs did not disclose he was sick until 2003. This does not meat he was not sick prior it is that he did not publicly come out with it until 2003 (people whiten his small circle mused after he was sick privately prior to 2003. Some say in 1998 he was diagnosed.. some say as early as 1994!). From a tactical standpoint disclosing you have the most deadly cancer publicly when you are trying to propel Apple to be the largest company on the globe is not a smart move. Whom the hell is going to invest in a company when its mastermind would be in his perceived deathbed.
So even then with what we know he outlived the average lifespan of a cancer from a few months... to nearly 8 years - and this is from what we know. But the Hamster of modern medicine views this as a failure because Steve Jobs decided to go to hippies to get treatment and not the white lab coats. The mainstream media accounts of this are all mis-qoutes and The "9 months" meme of non-treatment is bullshit also.
See how this makes no sense?
As we said a treatment is a means of prolonging life and hopefully maintaining the same level if not a terrible drop off in quality. Steve jobs was able to go 7-8 years (publicly) on a cancer that kills many in months. If he would of went the traditional path initially he would of been dead in 2004/2005.
I'll sit here and wait for the Doctors to come here and dog me but the facts don't lie - traditional treatment is complete crap - and if natural treatments were not banned by law we would be seeing more positive outcomes from Cancer diagnosis. Modern Medicine aside from its surgical advances is crap because it shuns all notions of prevention and shuns all notions of natural remedies which outdated modern medicine by a thousand years to begin with.
Modern Medicine is a monopoly and rakkett no different from Big-Oil, Big-Agra, etc. No bloody difference. There is no incentive in making people better as a healthy population means no industry for these people to live off of.
Big-Oil helped fund the push towards chemical based medicine. Benzene is a root for the majority of pharmacological chemicals and the mega corps like DOW, EXXON etc pumped a shit ton of money into Medical schools many decades ago to make the industry dependent.
No better than Vultures. All the mega-monopolies dance hand in hand to the same song. All are interwoven and all benefit each other. Big-Pharma, Big-Agra, Wall Street, Big-Oil, Big-Government - Are all the same - All want you sick, fat, in debt, and docile.
** This is not a paintbrush that dams all doctors to being blood thirsty vultures. I am sure 80% of doctors are well mannered and good hearted people whom just have been mistaken to think their profession was the best way to help people. I can't fault them for this as being a doctor is a internal commitment to help people but one must understand that forces greater then you, your practice and the care you offer push the industry towards the destructive sick-for-profit industry it is.