[Basil Ransom]

(11-26-2012 02:56 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 02:46 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Honestly, I find these farewell posts a bit petty and grandiose, perhaps a kind of attention whoring.

This is the proper term.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Flounce

Hahahaha, nailed it. I just hope that if I abandon the forums, I *don't* do a flounce post.

I don't visit the game forums much because few of the threads are actually about improving your game/getting laid more. Maybe later I'll do a screen grab and highlight this.

[Giovonny]

Don't leave. We need you. We need opposing viewpoints. We need to be challenged.

If you leave, we will de-volve into "group think". I hate that!

Please stay and challenge us, disagree with us, force us to clarify and rethink our positions.

We need you. We need checks and balances.

I disagree with alot of what you say but it still makes me think:

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Your lays don't come from game.

Some guys consciously use game to get laid, some guys don't. Both guys can learn from this forum.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- A lot of guys try to get laid just because of the social pressure.

Alot of guys do alot of things because of social pressure. We would all be better off following our own desires and not doing things for the sake of others.

If you think a guy is chasing pussy to make other people be happy, and would be happier getting laid less, you are welcome to tell him. You might change his life in the process.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Many people have unrealistic expectations about what is possible to achieve.

True. Feel free to point out when you think someone has unrealistic expectations.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- The only rule is that there are no rules.

I like this. I believe the same. My only rule is this.. -Get the fucking job done!

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Every woman has value.

Of course. The key is to display yourself as higher value and bang them.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Manosphere is doomed.

It will evolve in some form or another.

I know this.. Mans desire for pussy is not doomed. There will always be a market for sex and sex education.

Oldnem,

Stay and challenge us. It's stimulating and educational.

[tenderman100]

By the way, despite my criticisms of your "farewell" post, you should stick around. What you write is stimulating.

[3agle 3yes]

Interesting thread. I feel that I must comment on both the "old" guys...

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Your lays don't come from game. What we call "game" is basically trying to find out the inner self, and keep the peace with it. "Just be yourself" - a typically wrong advice often given to newbies (wrong only because they won't understand it) means "find your inner self".

The best way to say it isn't "Just be yourself" but rather "Be the best version of yourself" or to be the "Ideal version of yourself" the one we see in our minds eye...I'm sure most people know what that is. The closer we resemble are ideal self the more satisfied we are.

I also agree with tenderman on this point.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Many people have unrealistic expectations about what is possible to achieve. No matter how hard you try and how good you are, you will NEVER be able to attract EVERY girl you meet.

I know the OP doesn't mean EVERY girl but rather every girl you're attracted to. However, this just sounds like someone trying to rationalise their insecurity.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- The only rule is that there are no rules. Most of the things you read in the books are meaningless.

There are no set rules but there are set laws. For example, when it comes to books...the techniques aren't that important what is important is your mindset and the understanding of what you are being asked to do (the techniques) and why you are being told to do it.

For example, a book may tell you not to call a girl the same day you met her...the message here ISN'T do not call this girl the same day you meet her, BUT rather do not be desperate and come across that way.

Or a book saying do not ask interview style questions...is REALLY saying be honest and to the point...because no one really cares what school someone went to or whether they go to X place often.

(11-26-2012 04:34 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

- Every woman has value. Her "value" is the combination of money, time, efforts, status and other things you have to put in, and unless you put this in, you won't get her.

A woman's value is the value you're willing to give her.

and tenderman...

(11-26-2012 03:18 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

I think you are right about "unrealistic expectations" -- I find it amusing over in my 40-somethings thread how posters diss these older chicks, but would fuck them in a minute if they had the chance.

I've seen your thread and I wouldn't bang most of the women (that I saw) on there if I "had the chance". In fact I have the chance everyday...the streets are crawling with 40-somethings. However, most are "invisible" to me.

Also, while I do believe OP's post is a Flounce he's posting this probably because he wants users to persuade him to come back (which some are). In fact, the whole point of telling people you're leaving is because you have conflicting thoughts about it in the first place.

[tenderman100]

(11-27-2012 06:47 PM)3agle 3yes Wrote:  

and tenderman...

(11-26-2012 03:18 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

I think you are right about "unrealistic expectations" -- I find it amusing over in my 40-somethings thread how posters diss these older chicks, but would fuck them in a minute if they had the chance.

I've seen your thread and I wouldn't bang most of the women (that I saw) on there if I "had the chance". In fact I have the chance everyday...the streets are crawling with 40-somethings. However, most are "invisible" to me.

Really? You wouldn't bang this?



or this?



or this?



or this?



or this?



or this?



You are one picky MOF!!

[WestCoast]

If this is your reason "I don't feel like I'm contributing to this community anymore"

You are far far far from correct.

[Enigma]

I think everyone who posts provides value to the forum (though some more than others or in different ways, obviously) If not, Roosh or Tuth would've banned their ass by now

That being said, I disagree with some of your points here. I don't think what you're saying about getting laid based on societal pressures is true. Most men aren't getting any ass so obviously there isn't much pressure on them and if anything, there is pressure against men having sex. You're telling me guys are out here cold approaching dozens of women every week just to impress their sexless male peers or their disapproving female counterparts? We want sex because it's our biological objective. I don't wake up with a boner every morning because of society.

Also, I think what the main voices of the manosphere are teaching is adaptation. Adapting to the different sexual screening processes of women from different times, classes, and geographical regions. I don't really see what you're suggesting we do? Just take whatever bullshit women and the rest of society hands us?

[Cincinnatus]

I just learned today while browsing that MikeCF quit RVF.

Almost 4,500 posts between the two of them - that's a lot of time spent on the forum.