008 U.S. Presidental Election
09-16-2008, 09:47 PM
Obama or McCain?
Roosh
http://www.rooshv.com
Quote: (09-17-2008 10:35 AM)Trotter Wrote:
Neither.
My belief is that Obama is too idealistic and won't be able to deliver on most of his promises because of the current state of the economy, and that the only way to raise funding for his policies is to increase taxes.
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Edit: Someone asked me why taxing big oil could be a mistake. Simple economics is the reason. Traditionally, when taxing or retro-taxing corporate income the entity in question never pays for it. The cost of being taxed more is historically passed along and defered to three possible sources: a capital commitee of some sort, the employess, the CONSUMER.
If we were to tax Exxon Mobil they practically wouldn't pay a dime of the corporate income tax. They would absorb the taxes by raising prices at the pump, or cutting jobs, or cutting employee benefits (raises/health/bonuses), or perhaps be defered to some capital committee. Capitol Hill would have to negotiate with big oil not to do that and they would most likely get something in return. It's part of the reason why McCain wants to continue to cut corporate income taxes for big oil, because he realizes the less profit they make the more likely they are to increase prices at the pump. Imagine what the prices at the pump would be like if we were taxing their profits.
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Wow, in this poll Obama is currently in the lead.
Quote: (09-17-2008 08:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I'm voting for obama because i'm literally afraid of mccain/palin
Quote: (09-17-2008 10:58 PM)Bernie Wrote:
Quote: (09-17-2008 08:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I'm voting for obama because i'm literally afraid of mccain/palin
You should be afraid of obama's connections to Ayers; his favors to and the money he received from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac; and his debts to Rezko.
Look at what Obama has done (and not done), not what he claims he will do. Words are easy to spew out. Creating a history of action is not.
I highly recommend Instapundit.com for a good non-partisan read. Glenn Reynolds is a libertarian law professor. He has some excellent links to Obama and McCain history.
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I highly recommend Instapundit.com for a good non-partisan read
Quote: (09-17-2008 08:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I'm voting for obama because i'm literally afraid of mccain/palin
Quote: (09-18-2008 02:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:
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I highly recommend Instapundit.com for a good non-partisan read
Non-partisan?
Quote: (09-18-2008 03:58 PM)Bernie Wrote:
Quote: (09-18-2008 02:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:
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I highly recommend Instapundit.com for a good non-partisan read
Non-partisan?
He's not a Republican Roosh. He has no loyalties to either party.
He is what most Americans are: a social liberal, fiscal conservative. He happens to be a registered libertarian who calls things as he sees them.
Broken, your attitude is childish. Because you don't like the word "republican" you will vote for someone else no matter what? Good grief...
Read up on the HISTORY of both candidates. What type of legislation have they written? Campaign promises rarely are fulfilled, don't listen to them. Investigate what they have done in the past, that will be your best predictor of what either will do as president.
And by the way Roosh, 3 years ago McCain tried to introduce legislation to regulate the financial sector because he saw the corruption in the mortgage industry. The legislators who were in the mortgage companies' pockets shot him down. Do you know who is the #2 all time high receiver of $$$ from those companies? Obama.
Quote: (09-22-2008 12:59 AM)zorgon Wrote:
I am voting McCain. I am a one-issue voter: less taxes/spending, smaller government. McCain is far from ideal, but Obama clearly wants government to get bigger and wants even more redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. I want smaller government and less redistribution of wealth.