[Avarence]

This reminded me of a post of Roosh's years ago with the same title.

We all need to strive to be like this guy.

[vinman]

"Game. Bitches" Dave Chappelle as Prince

[vinman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzz5L5naU5I

[kazz]

(11-11-2012 12:38 AM)IQVX Wrote:  

This reminded me of a post of Roosh's years ago with the same title.

We all need to strive to be like this guy.

Haahah, the ugly old cows response to her is gold.

[Avarence]

You can tell by the entire tone that she's only concerned because of what her friends think. If they didn't say anything she'd be just fine and wouldn't have asked Yahoo. Even though he walked in, banged her in front of her friends, came on her face, and left, she still doesn't think it's a good idea to break up with him. Boss.

[heavy]

Bumping this thread because Be That Guy still one of the shortest, most succinct, yet best articles Roosh ever wrote...

Quote:

I want to share with you an epiphany I had years ago. I was trying to bang this girl and she was being very flakey and taking forever to get back to me. I asked my friend what I should do about it and we proceeded to go over my options after I told him everything that had transpired so far.

At the end I thought, “Is she doing this with her friends right now? Is she asking her friend how to get with me? Is she asking her friend how to get me to stop flaking?”

Of course not.

Even though she wasn’t treating me well, I was still chasing her. Even though she was barely encouraging me, I wanted her bad. It’s human nature.

If you eavesdrop on conversations with girls, you will hear them talk about guys that are flakes. Guys that don’t call. That put in the minimum amount of work. That don’t give much notice on dates and then cancel them at the last minute. That fuck the girl and then make an excuse to leave within minutes. You think that guy is stressing over the girl? You think he’s asking his friends for help? No, he’s too busy working on other girls. He doesn’t care about any of them. He has no attachments. With no attachments he doesn’t do the pathetic, desperate, needy shit that 95% of other guys do.

I realized then that I had to BE THAT GUY, and not the guy who plots and tries and talks about what to do next. Because the moment you have to try is the moment you care, and the moment you care is the moment she has you, and all you’ll have is your hand, waiting for the phone to ring.

...and hadn't see this thread before. That OP linked to the yahoo q/a, hilarious. What a man.

[OregonToSoCal]

That story reminds of one a FB told me years ago. We were talking about strangest places we had sex and she said she and a group of friends including a guy were in Vegas in a hotel room and she was trying to explain to her GF's how to give a good BJ. The guy friend volunteered for her to demonstrate on and then the two of them ended up fucking right there in front of her GF's. That story still turns me on and I fucked her extra hard right after she told it to me.

[Dalaran1991]

I'm all on board with the idea, but still I feel like this is a vicious circle that's hard to break, at least at the beginning.

In order to have abundance mentality and "give no shit" attitude, you need to have lots of prospects and banging a lot of girls. In order to have lots of prospects and banging a lot of girls you need to have the abundance mentality and "give no shit" attitude. If you don't have one, you don't have the other.

It's like with a job search. No one hires you because you have no experience, but you can't have experience if no one hires you.

Of course at the beginning we fake it until we make it.

[LINUX]

(03-27-2015 03:21 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

That story reminds of one a FB told me years ago. We were talking about strangest places we had sex and she said she and a group of friends including a guy were in Vegas in a hotel room and she was trying to explain to her GF's how to give a good BJ. The guy friend volunteered for her to demonstrate on and then the two of them ended up fucking right there in front of her GF's. That story still turns me on and I fucked her extra hard right after she told it to me.

You are a better man than me. I would grab my jacket walk right out the front door.

[OGNorCal707]

(03-27-2015 03:29 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I'm all on board with the idea, but still I feel like this is a vicious circle that's hard to break, at least at the beginning.

In order to have abundance mentality and "give no shit" attitude, you need to have lots of prospects and banging a lot of girls. In order to have lots of prospects and banging a lot of girls you need to have the abundance mentality and "give no shit" attitude. If you don't have one, you don't have the other.

It's like with a job search. No one hires you because you have no experience, but you can't have experience if no one hires you.

Of course at the beginning we fake it until we make it.

[OregonToSoCal]

(03-27-2015 03:31 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:21 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

That story reminds of one a FB told me years ago. We were talking about strangest places we had sex and she said she and a group of friends including a guy were in Vegas in a hotel room and she was trying to explain to her GF's how to give a good BJ. The guy friend volunteered for her to demonstrate on and then the two of them ended up fucking right there in front of her GF's. That story still turns me on and I fucked her extra hard right after she told it to me.

You are a better man than me. I would grab my jacket walk right out the front door.

She was no one that I was even close to wifing up or entering into any kind of LTR with. I was fucking multiple women at the time and what can I say, I have kinky streak

[CrackerDaddy]

(03-27-2015 02:22 PM)heavy Wrote:  

Bumping this thread because Be That Guy still one of the shortest, most succinct, yet best articles Roosh ever wrote...

Quote:

I want to share with you an epiphany I had years ago. I was trying to bang this girl and she was being very flakey and taking forever to get back to me. I asked my friend what I should do about it and we proceeded to go over my options after I told him everything that had transpired so far.

At the end I thought, “Is she doing this with her friends right now? Is she asking her friend how to get with me? Is she asking her friend how to get me to stop flaking?”

Of course not.

Even though she wasn’t treating me well, I was still chasing her. Even though she was barely encouraging me, I wanted her bad. It’s human nature.

If you eavesdrop on conversations with girls, you will hear them talk about guys that are flakes. Guys that don’t call. That put in the minimum amount of work. That don’t give much notice on dates and then cancel them at the last minute. That fuck the girl and then make an excuse to leave within minutes. You think that guy is stressing over the girl? You think he’s asking his friends for help? No, he’s too busy working on other girls. He doesn’t care about any of them. He has no attachments. With no attachments he doesn’t do the pathetic, desperate, needy shit that 95% of other guys do.

I realized then that I had to BE THAT GUY, and not the guy who plots and tries and talks about what to do next. Because the moment you have to try is the moment you care, and the moment you care is the moment she has you, and all you’ll have is your hand, waiting for the phone to ring.

...and hadn't see this thread before. That OP linked to the yahoo q/a, hilarious. What a man.

First time I've seen that post. That is some serious truth! Thanks for sharing.

[the high]

I think posts like the one Heavy quoted are more beneficial than posts that explain every little nuance of the game. All a lot of guys really need is that spark to get things going. Hell I think even technically incorrect advice can be beneficial if it ultimately sets you on the correct path. The rest you can figure out along the way as it's a lot more useful to experience it than be told it.

It's like Morpheus told Neo about the Oracles message, "she told you exactly what you needed to hear, nothing more".

[poutsara]

(03-27-2015 03:29 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

It's like with a job search. No one hires you because you have no experience, but you can't have experience if no one hires you.

Of course at the beginning we fake it until we make it.

I'd take it further than that. You should always feel like you are faking it until making it. Once you've made it, it's time to start faking it again, towards a new goal. If you've plateaued, then it's time to climb again. If you think you have reached a point in your life (be it game, career, business, whatever) where you have "made it", then you will look upwards, realize there is much to do, and get back to work.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

The fake it til you make it strategy has worked for some guys, but I would counter that the guys who really internalize things will ultimately advance further

One can only fake it so much, until a chick throws you a pitch that isn't in the 'playbook' then what?

The guy who has managed to internalize, though he may see slower results initially, isn't following a script because who you see is actually who he is inwardly and outwardly

[Giovonny]

(03-27-2015 03:29 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

In order to have lots of prospects and banging a lot of girls you need to have the abundance mentality and "give no shit" attitude

I'm going to respectfully disagree..

(well, i'm not really disagreeing with you, i'm just adding to your perspective and analogy)

"Mentality" and "attitude" are not necessary to get girls. They help, but, even without them, we can still get results.

When I first started, I did not have an "abundance mentality" or a "not give a shit attitude".

I was needy and desperate.

But, I was still able to bang a few girls because I approached thousands of girls, got hundreds of phone numbers, sent hundreds of texts, and did dozens of dates.

I created "abundance" through effort.

Physical effort is the most important factor.

If you want a lot of prospects, what you have to do is approach a lot of girls.

Your "mentality" and "attitude" do not matter nearly as much as your physical action and physical effort.

Talking to more girls is always the answer. That is the only way to improve your game, increase your prospects, create abundance, and gain enough experience to "not give a shit".

(03-27-2015 03:29 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

It's like with a job search. No one hires you because you have no experience, but you can't have experience if no one hires you.

I want to add to this analogy..

You can't get a job because you don't have any experience.

You can't get experience because you don't have a job.

Here is what you CAN do:

Volunteer, intern, apprentice, understudy, observe, practice, etc.

- Approaching girls on your own is "volunteering".

- Getting mentors and coaches is "interning".

- Texting/Calling girls and doing dates is "apprenticing".

- Getting rejected is "understudying".

Don't wait to get experience with girls. Start creating your own experience today!

The more work you put in, the faster you will create an "abundance mentality" and "not give a shit attitude".

(03-27-2015 03:29 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

at the beginning we fake it until we make it.

I faked it til I made it.

Every month, the "fake" became more real.

After a few years, "fake" evolved in to authentic.

[Redwood]

i see the self-fulfilling prophecy rings true for you giovanny.

[Fortis]

You can definitely spam your way into billion numbers online. I sometimes will over fish and get too many numbers off of OKC and never follow up with half of the chicks and my game is pretty weak. I think that the reason for doing this is that you always have some prospect to jump on, even when you really don't have much game. You can play the numbers game all day.

if one girl says, "omg fortis you're so cool but i'm not into you." I delete the text and immediately text another chick. I try to put minimal effort into my bangs, so no dinners or movies. But occasionally I slip up. It's a tough road to internalization but I think it's worth it; if i can do this with low game, what will i be able to do when I get decent game?

[Dalaran1991]

Gio is killing it again.

His post reveals one of the more redundant side of gaming advice. Almost everything we tell newbies is "Don't be needy" "Go fuck other girls" Assuming the guys are newbies, they will be needy and they won't be able to fuck any other girls soon. I remembered being a newbie and coming here asking and people telling me that overused stuff, and I was like "yeah, how the hell can I not be needy? And if I can fuck another girl I wouldn't be here asking question about a particular girl"

What we need to tell them to do is to develop iron discipline and keep going, stick with the game until you have experience enough to finally "make it". Accept the neediness and your temporary lack of success. Compensate with sheer force of will.

[Clark]

(03-31-2015 06:04 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

What we need to tell them to do is to develop iron discipline and keep going, stick with the game until you have experience enough to finally "make it". Accept the neediness and your temporary lack of success. Compensate with sheer force of will.

And when you feel like tired of endless rejections, about to lose it, on the edge of depression, go hit the gym hard! Hell yeah!

[redbeard]

Bump because this article completely changed the way I think about girls.

If you're having a hard time with abundance mentality, MikeCF has a good podcast about it.

"I am enough, I have enough."