You can buy Range Rovers cheap once they are out of warranty...
That should tell you something.
That should tell you something.
Quote: (11-02-2012 07:10 AM)pitt Wrote:
Why not? I dont get it.
The majority of guys that drive expensive cars may not approach but i have seen guys who drive expensive cars approaching while driving.
Quote: (11-02-2012 03:13 PM)Merenguero Wrote:
Some girls are actually smart enough to see high-end luxury cars and expensive houses for what they really are. Some girls can't read between the lines and that is why having these cars and houses can help some guys out, although the extent to which they help is debatable. When I see an expensive house or a high-end luxury car, I definitely do not think "wealth." I definitely do not think "success." I think debt. I think overfinanced homes and cars which are depreciating in value by the second. I think serious financial problems and the prevalence of bankruptcy which are keeping bankrupcty attorneys in business. Unfortunately, I don't practice bankruptcy law and I never will. Some girls can see the reality and some can't.
I understand that some people actually pay cash for these assets. Many people who do pay cash do so at the expense of their other personal obligations and incur some of the same financial problems as their friends who acquire those assets through financing.
There is a minority of people, I cannot state the exact percentage of this minority, who are insanely wealthy and can acquire a new Ferrari and an expensive house by paying in cash and by hardly making a dent in their savings. Such people may even be well advised to buy the car and the house. It can't really hurt them. It can only help. For everyone else out there, I believe it would be much smarter to pay for everything in cash and refrain from buying high-end cars and houses. The smarter investement, at least for the majority of people, would be in a gym membership, clothes, books (including but not limited to those written by Roosh), and maybe even a dating coach. As long as you are paying in cash and not incurring any debt like most of the people with Ferraris and expensive houses, you really can't lose.
Quote: (11-03-2012 05:10 AM)SelfPaid Wrote:
Quote: (11-02-2012 03:13 PM)Merenguero Wrote:
Some girls are actually smart enough to see high-end luxury cars and expensive houses for what they really are. Some girls can't read between the lines and that is why having these cars and houses can help some guys out, although the extent to which they help is debatable. When I see an expensive house or a high-end luxury car, I definitely do not think "wealth." I definitely do not think "success." I think debt. I think overfinanced homes and cars which are depreciating in value by the second. I think serious financial problems and the prevalence of bankruptcy which are keeping bankrupcty attorneys in business. Unfortunately, I don't practice bankruptcy law and I never will. Some girls can see the reality and some can't.
I understand that some people actually pay cash for these assets. Many people who do pay cash do so at the expense of their other personal obligations and incur some of the same financial problems as their friends who acquire those assets through financing.
There is a minority of people, I cannot state the exact percentage of this minority, who are insanely wealthy and can acquire a new Ferrari and an expensive house by paying in cash and by hardly making a dent in their savings. Such people may even be well advised to buy the car and the house. It can't really hurt them. It can only help. For everyone else out there, I believe it would be much smarter to pay for everything in cash and refrain from buying high-end cars and houses. The smarter investement, at least for the majority of people, would be in a gym membership, clothes, books (including but not limited to those written by Roosh), and maybe even a dating coach. As long as you are paying in cash and not incurring any debt like most of the people with Ferraris and expensive houses, you really can't lose.
That's it most people live there Life to impress other's but that is just stupid since no one actualy really gives a shit about how rich you are ore which Car you drive.
Quote: (11-01-2012 10:02 PM)Sorter Wrote:
I second John Galt2's experiences. I drive very nice cars, because I love them and they're a reward for hard work. I have a really nice house. But, having those things doesn't get you anywhere. You don't mention what kind of car you drive or how much your house cost when you're out chatting up chicks. If you do (and I've heard it hundreds of times), you're pathetic. You need game to get laid, period.
I've had dozens of chicks get into my car, look around and say surprised "wow this is really nice" and then admit they have no idea what kind of car it is. Certainly they recognize a nice, newer clean car over a POS and they might register a Mercedes over a Honda. But I'd bet most girls (gold diggers excluded) couldn't tell the difference between a 5-series BMW, an S-class Mercedes or a Bentley Flying Spur (price ranges of 50k to 200k). And you can forget about AMG, M or other tuned variants, only gearheads respect that extra oomph. Exotics (Ferrari, Lambo, Astons, Mclaren) are great as a second ride, but they attract the wrong kind of attention and are finicky (not to mention difficult to get insured).
The house is a deal closer. A girl sees you have your shit together, a nice car, big house and you don't say anything stupid it's a walk in the park. But you never reach that point without game. Be prepared to get some clingers and wrap it up twice, they *all* see dollar signs.
Lastly, most of the flashiest guys you see are running on credit or borrowed time. True wealth is almost always low key.
Favorite example: moved to a wealthy area and had an office downtown. Used to see a guy rolling around in a different exotic every day of the week or a chauffeured Rolls. In a flashy place, he stood out, very hard to do. One day he comes shooting by in a blue Bugatti and I flipped my shit because I had never seen one on the road ($1.5m). I looked into the guys business, his background and I told my colleagues "that dude's up to something". He had multi-million dollar houses all over town, a dozen cars, it was ridiculous. Nobody making legit money blows it that fast because it's damn hard to make and you don't know how long it will last. Nearly 18-months to the day he was on CNBC, giant fraud now behind bars.
Quote: (10-31-2012 12:18 PM)Ehnulo Wrote:
Quote: (10-30-2012 01:10 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:
#2 My friends had picked up two girls at a club in Miami. They were walking back to their hotel when I get drove up next to them in a convertible Lambo and asked the girls if they wanted a ride. The girls turned to my friends, said "Sorry" and jumped in the Lambo dude's car.
That said, I probably would not do that. You are talking dropping 1M+ on the car and pad. What I would do is one of the following:
2. What I really would do...spend that money to try and figure out how to become famous. Or pay someone to do it. Just being mildly famous will get you much more than a car or condo. Think about it...you just stand there and girls approach you. Fame is the only way that happens consistently.
Buying a nice house is not throwing money into a hole (houses are assets). Car's lose money so those are definitely money drains, but maybe still worth it if their pulling power is that strong. They still sell for something and have more value than girl magnets.
Buying escorts is a real loss of money. Spend $300, get laid to a hot girl. Cool but at the same time you didn't benefit much in the long term. I think my friend sees it as a once or twice a month thing (I do)
What we're trying to figure out is the cost of the nice car + other accessories vs starting a small porn company or something similar. The "spending money on celebrity" idea is cool too, just not sure how to implement that.
Quote: (10-31-2012 07:00 PM)Menace Wrote:
There have been videos posted of nobody's surrounded by a bunch of people at a mall and fake security, and this made girls interested in them. Do the same thing. Would be really cheap. Hire some starving artists and some big body guard dudes. Should be easy.
Quote: (01-29-2013 01:29 AM)searayray Wrote:
I'm 31 and a Ferrari [F430 Spider] owner in DC. I can tell you first hand
Here's the killer - though. This is the real mackdaddy trick. Date a girl and don't mention ANYTHING about the car. 2-3 weeks in...pick her up in your F-car. She will think you are Jay-z. It's game over after that.
Quote: (01-29-2013 02:50 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:
Quote: (01-29-2013 01:29 AM)searayray Wrote:
I'm 31 and a Ferrari [F430 Spider] owner in DC. I can tell you first hand
Here's the killer - though. This is the real mackdaddy trick. Date a girl and don't mention ANYTHING about the car. 2-3 weeks in...pick her up in your F-car. She will think you are Jay-z. It's game over after that.
Bingo. Effortless Attraction: The guy who has it, but doesn't need to boast about it or show them off up front. They're just an ordinary part of his lifestyle that she may or may not see at a later date.
Few things are more attractive to women than a man who can internalize that kind of lifestyle game. It requires him to tone done the showmanship, which is something only a very confident, self-assured man (with nothing to prove) can do consistently.
This ought to be the end goal for all who desire to practice lifestyle game.
Quote: (01-29-2013 04:08 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:I know that's the theory, but does it always have to be a matter of black and white polarity? Are there guys who pull off a rich-lover-of-women vibe? Who use both the black and white keys on the piano as if they were not two distinct playing areas? An artist who uses incorporates all the colors of the palate into one seamless whole? Is it really about being a provider OR a lover? Is it binary?
The more he focuses on his money the more he will project a "provider" mentally and the women will withhold sex in return for a "relationship".
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Sure, money will always attract women because it represents security but then you will never know if the woman is with you because of your money or because she really likes you.