[the_conductor]

(10-30-2012 02:52 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Now, if your friend was looking to drive an expensive car in countries like Brazil, DR or Colombia, then im sure your friend will get laid like crazy. All he needs to do is enrol in a local university and approach like crazy but im almost certain that the majority of times women will actually approach him.

Its a lot of money to buy a penthouse in LA and buy a ferrari, invest the money in something else or you can just go spend abroad and you will spend way less and get laid way more. My two cents.

Except than a ferrari in Brazil is way more expensive than it is in the US. (2x at least)

[SVK]

I have an acquaintance, Eastern European guy living in USA, his behavior always appeared very low class to me, but he is seriously loaded (8 figures or so). He has a Ferrari and supposedly when he parks it in the front of the club on Sat night he can have his pick of the litter out of a few sluts willing to go with him. He probably drops some serious cash at the club as well. I can imagine it works on golddiggers, and there's no shortage of goldiggers anywhere. I never witnessed this personally, every time I met this guy it was at a private party and each time he had some seriously hot pro/semi-pro with him. Always different girl but always really hot. This guy is quite fat, ugly and kind of arrogant and annoying. Definitely not my style, but he definitely bangs some hotties.

[presidentcarter]

Just when you think you're rich and can get any girl...






You realize there's another guy that's much much richer...

[Veloce]

I'm in L.A. too. Been here for 12 years, and I've been exposed to the lifestyles of the rich and famous through my job.

I used to work out in Brentwood, where Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys, Aston Martin, Rolls Royce, all that shit's more or less a dime a dozen.

I never saw any rich dude in any of those cars with what I thought was a very hot girl. They're usually cougars that have had a lot of plastic surgery done.

Any time I see a REALLY hot girl in the city, she's usually with a good looking guy that looks like an actor, or agent, or someone important. There's one car that stands out in my mind though, one car that I can think that I've seen hot girls climb into more than any other:

[Brian]

i drove a 6 series BMW for a few years and having a nice car really doesnt help that much. it certainly doesnt hurt but if you've gotten them in the car regardless of what you drive you have pretty much already done the difficult work. having something nice like a Range Rover, 7 series, whatever, is really all you need unless you are targeting complete gold digging whores - not that there's anything wrong with that.

[babelfish669]

A few things that I always notice from this recurring discussion:

1 - 12-16 hour work days to keep up your lifestyle is a massive cock block. From what I've seen I'm not sure even private jets and yachts can make up for, and most certainly not a car that costs a 5 or 6k a month.

2 - The more money it looks like you have, the more hookers you are going to attract. You think you are picking them up, they are actually the ones doing the picking up. If your from Yankee Doodle Trailer Park they don't have any teeth. If your in Las Vegas, NYC, or LA, they look like normal hot girls. Many of those guys buying bottle service and pulling up in expensive cars are going home with hookers, and they will lie through their teeth about it.

3 - Some girls are susceptible to money and success game. Usually the ones that haven't seen a lot of it.

[rudebwoy]

I would take the boat/yacht over any of those cars, nowadays you can get a decent boat for $100k. Although I realize boats are alot to maintain, I think they are way cooler.
Bikes do scream bad boy and sends out the right image compared to a Lambo/Ferrari. Girls seem to prefer SUV's to sports cars in my experience, the Range is always a winner.

[Laner]

If he likes cars, join a car club. Take out a new set of wheels every month. 1969 GTO one month and a Aston Martin DBS another.

If he likes slutty 9's, get on the black book of a high class escort service. Work them into his schedule, go for the girlfriend experience with them and let the agency know exactly what he expects.

His business should take priority at this stage in its growth. Dating women sounds ridiculous for a man in his place. When business becomes manageable, then focus on finding a real woman. By this time, if he plays his cards right, lots of normal girls will have seen him with hot women around town and he will have a reputation. Especially if he plays the escorts right and is seen pulling into dope spots in the car clubs Jag.

[kbell]

He can also easily travel too more often when things slow down a bit.

[jordypip23]

Sweet Jesus that East Hampton ticket probably belongs to someone that's easily among the upper echelons of this country's so-called 1%. Almost $100 million just casually sitting in one account? Crazy shit man. Probably some senior hedge fund guy summering in the Hamptons.

(10-30-2012 06:33 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

Just when you think you're rich and can get any girl...






You realize there's another guy that's much much richer...

[Excelsior]

(10-30-2012 04:39 PM)reppin_the_847 Wrote:  

I see what you're saying, and as tempting as it is for someone in this dude's position, isn't the whole P4P thing against the mantra of this forum?

Some on the forum don't like to talk about P4P at all-that's their mantra, not mine, as I have no real issue with the practice. I'm just giving the most practical advice I can provide, and in this case that advice involved P4P.

I'm not promoting P4P as an absolute superior to game or trying to claim that it is always better to pay than to game, but in this case there is absolutely no other way to reliably give the OP what he wants for his friend (super hot, slutty notches in a regular, timely fashion). Sometimes P4P gives a better return on investment, and sometimes busy guys in need of notches and short on time need that high ROI. This is one of those times.

Just telling it like it is.

[Donnington93]

I always thought that there's nothing cooler than being driven in a Town Car. You can wear many hats driving a 7-Series, S-Class etc; Armenian cellphone store owner, try-hard, bigshot lawyer.

If you're really important, you're in a black Town Car with a driver. Your buddy could probably get one, someone to drive him and a bike for the same cost as a good 7-Series (it better be good, a bad one will be endless headaches with all the electronics).

A black Suburban with a driver may also work. A lot of broads think Ferraris and Gallardos are pathetic. I had a 2012 Jaguar XKR this summer (I work in the car industry, I am not a G Manifesto playboy) and that was by far the most positive attention I've ever gotten from lizards. Nobody rocks them, they are overlooked, the exhaust note sounds like gunfire and they are better than the equivalent Aston (the shitty Vantage) for almost half price.

[John Galt2]

My personal experience - going from middle-class to wealthy and showing it (I bought a 911 and live in a penthouse condo in Chicago) did NOT get me laid more in terms of notches (game, or lack thereof, is the primary reason I get chics). However, showing off my wealth definitely made a difference in keeping them around. My "game" is to never talk about my career/wealth when talking to a stranger at the bar. But if i get them to my place (via cab), i will drive them home in my 911. I usually get the "Jesus, this is your car??" And I shrug and say something like "crime pays" with a smirk. This has basically guaranteed me date/bang #2. Much more so vs when I drove them home in my Jeep

[brianmark]

(10-30-2012 03:40 PM)Wool Suit Wrote:  

I can only speak to my experience. My father is well off, and he leases a new Bentley once every couple years. Yes, that one. The classic nouveau rich car.

I've peacocked in them a few times, and I'll admit, you'll get a lot of IOIs, particularly from older women. I know it's gotten him some strange before (the salary, house don't hurt), but he says it's always golddiggers. In many ways it's made it harder for him to meet decent women; he always has to deal with the most vapid of the vapid.

So, if you're buddy wants to smash a lot of golddiggers (and I mean, a lot), then go for it. If he wants to try and find some decent girls, maybe build up a harem, then I'd go the understatement route.

Or just buy an Aston. Best of all possible worlds, IMHO.

Heaven: American salary, English house, Chinese food, Russian wife
Hell: ----Russian salary, Chinese house, English food, American wife

Wool Suit. I have to comment on you signature. Nice, but I'd have to have give you mine.
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[jordypip23]

I understand man. If you want to skip the whole gaming aspect and cut right to the chase, at least P4P at the level of the OP's buddy can get you actual porn star poon & other extremely stunner-ific talent (9's, 10's, etc.). On the other hand, the lower & even middle end of the P4P can be so pathetic in some markets that it will leave you yearning to go back to the basics (game). So in that sense money might actually handicap the fellas that really want to master game. They get spoiled by the upscale hookers & gold diggers in a sense. At least the regular dudes are still "hungry".

(10-30-2012 11:37 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-30-2012 04:39 PM)reppin_the_847 Wrote:  

I see what you're saying, and as tempting as it is for someone in this dude's position, isn't the whole P4P thing against the mantra of this forum?

Some on the forum don't like to talk about P4P at all-that's their mantra, not mine, as I have no real issue with the practice. I'm just giving the most practical advice I can provide, and in this case that advice involved P4P.

I'm not promoting P4P as an absolute superior to game or trying to claim that it is always better to pay than to game, but in this case there is absolutely no other way to reliably give the OP what he wants for his friend (super hot, slutty notches in a regular, timely fashion). Sometimes P4P gives a better return on investment, and sometimes busy guys in need of notches and short on time need that high ROI. This is one of those times.

Just telling it like it is.

[Excelsior]

(10-31-2012 12:44 AM)Donnington93 Wrote:  

I had a 2012 Jaguar XKR this summer (I work in the car industry, I am not a G Manifesto playboy) and that was by far the most positive attention I've ever gotten from lizards. Nobody rocks them, they are overlooked, the exhaust note sounds like gunfire and they are better than the equivalent Aston (the shitty Vantage) for almost half price.

You're right, that's a car that is a) rare (really don't see them around much) and b) totally slept on/underrated. They sound as good as anything out there and have plenty of style.

They're a bargain too-I'm finding decent used examples (2010 or newer, less than 10k on the clock) for under $60,000. Can't find a better deal for a car that powerful and stylish-as you mentioned, they're easily on the level of the much more expensive Aston Martin Vantage.






Highly recommend one of these if you're in the market for a sports car and can drop $50-60k.

[Excelsior]

(10-31-2012 01:35 AM)reppin_the_847 Wrote:  

So in that sense money might actually handicap the fellas that really want to master game.

They're getting laid with high quality on the regular in that scenario. Not a lot of downside there for a man who can afford it and wants that kind of variety, and not a lot of upside to "mastering" game beyond a proficient level (i.e. decent convo skills, avoiding beta marriage/save-a-hoe traps, etc). Going beyond that to mastery (which requires significantly more time investment) won't get them more lays with higher quality than supplementary P4P can, and they don't need to worry about the financial costs of either strategy.

Very good-looking guys also fit this bill (no need to invest too much in advanced game techniques, routines, etc-mastery of simple fuck up avoidance game more important). The utility of game varies when you have certain things (looks, wealth, fame, etc) going for you. One has to recognize that and use it accordingly-all can be helped by game, but in different ways.

Quote:

They get spoiled by the upscale hookers & gold diggers in a sense. At least the regular dudes are still "hungry".

That isn't necessarily an advantage.

[slubu]

I'll give you some of my thoughts and experiences.

#1 When I was 18, I was obsessed with the Dodge Viper. So I saved all my money and rented it one day. And I rented this one:



Absolutely outrageous right? This was back in 1998 when this car was popular too. Anyway, the day I had it I got so much fucking attention in LA it was unbelievable. Girls stopped me driving - one started screaming how she loved the car from the sidewalk. I was trying to make a left on a side street and oncoming traffic (3 lanes) all just stopped for me without a light or anything, they just gave way. I drove on Sunset Blvd. at night and people were clapping and hollering from the patios of restaurants and bars. It was insanity, like being a celebrity.

#2 My friends had picked up two girls at a club in Miami. They were walking back to their hotel when I get drove up next to them in a convertible Lambo and asked the girls if they wanted a ride. The girls turned to my friends, said "Sorry" and jumped in the Lambo dude's car.

That said, I probably would not do that. You are talking dropping 1M+ on the car and pad. What I would do is one of the following:

1. Tell him to stop being such an idiot and go travel. Go to Russia/EE and see what being rich is really like.

2. What I really would do...spend that money to try and figure out how to become famous. Or pay someone to do it. Just being mildly famous will get you much more than a car or condo. Think about it...you just stand there and girls approach you. Fame is the only way that happens consistently.

[Ehnulo]

(10-30-2012 01:10 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

#2 My friends had picked up two girls at a club in Miami. They were walking back to their hotel when I get drove up next to them in a convertible Lambo and asked the girls if they wanted a ride. The girls turned to my friends, said "Sorry" and jumped in the Lambo dude's car.

That said, I probably would not do that. You are talking dropping 1M+ on the car and pad. What I would do is one of the following:

2. What I really would do...spend that money to try and figure out how to become famous. Or pay someone to do it. Just being mildly famous will get you much more than a car or condo. Think about it...you just stand there and girls approach you. Fame is the only way that happens consistently.

Buying a nice house is not throwing money into a hole (houses are assets). Car's lose money so those are definitely money drains, but maybe still worth it if their pulling power is that strong. They still sell for something and have more value than girl magnets.

Buying escorts is a real loss of money. Spend $300, get laid to a hot girl. Cool but at the same time you didn't benefit much in the long term. I think my friend sees it as a once or twice a month thing (I do)

What we're trying to figure out is the cost of the nice car + other accessories vs starting a small porn company or something similar. The "spending money on celebrity" idea is cool too, just not sure how to implement that.

[kosko]

(10-31-2012 12:18 PM)Ehnulo Wrote:  

(10-30-2012 01:10 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

#2 My friends had picked up two girls at a club in Miami. They were walking back to their hotel when I get drove up next to them in a convertible Lambo and asked the girls if they wanted a ride. The girls turned to my friends, said "Sorry" and jumped in the Lambo dude's car.

That said, I probably would not do that. You are talking dropping 1M+ on the car and pad. What I would do is one of the following:

2. What I really would do...spend that money to try and figure out how to become famous. Or pay someone to do it. Just being mildly famous will get you much more than a car or condo. Think about it...you just stand there and girls approach you. Fame is the only way that happens consistently.

Buying a nice house is not throwing money into a hole (houses are assets). Car's lose money so those are definitely money drains, but maybe still worth it if their pulling power is that strong. They still sell for something and have more value than girl magnets.

Buying escorts is a real loss of money. Spend $300, get laid to a hot girl. Cool but at the same time you didn't benefit much in the long term. I think my friend sees it as a once or twice a month thing (I do)

What we're trying to figure out is the cost of the nice car + other accessories vs starting a small porn company or something similar. The "spending money on celebrity" idea is cool too, just not sure how to implement that.

[DVY]

+1 to the Range Rover. Beezies love that car and the X5.

I like the ls 460. Good combo of class, wealth, functionality. From my experience, down to earth, chill girls dig it a lot. The party girls like it, especially the roomy back-seat. Plus its reliable!!!!

Ferrari= 1200 dollar oil change, Tires are crazy expensive (think 5k for a set).
Maserati quatrrope- 300 dollar air conditioning charge, always breaking. BMW 7-series- always in the shop, plastic knobs in the car are garabage. everything breaks down all the time.
Audis- similar issues to the BMW, always in the shop
Jaguars- dunno

[Ehnulo]

kosko Wrote:

...

A porn company is still a company dude. They can be sold like any other business.

[kosko]

(10-31-2012 12:57 PM)Ehnulo Wrote:  

kosko Wrote:

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A porn company is still a company dude. They can be sold like any other business.

You don't get it.

[Ehnulo]

We're not trying to figure out your social mores so it's no loss. Rich dudes like him know how to take as much value as they can from everything they do.

[Wool Suit]

(10-31-2012 01:35 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

Heaven: American salary, English house, Chinese food, Russian wife
Hell: ----Russian salary, Chinese house, English food, American wife

Wool Suit. I have to comment on you signature. Nice, but I'd have to have give you mine.
Heaven: American salary, English house, Italian and Thai food, No Wife, Russian and Thai Fuck Toys
Hell: Russian salary, Chinese house, English Food, 3 Wives: American, Russian, Filipina - to make your life a living hell, No Fuck Toys

Haha, it's an old saying, but point taken.

Alright, not trying to this thread.