[Screwston]

(10-31-2012 07:27 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(10-31-2012 07:03 PM)houston Wrote:  

(10-31-2012 08:37 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

For guys that want to meet these girls start trolling NA meetings.

More hotboxes than you would expect and it's like a big social circle.

And, just because they go to NA doesn't mean they are not doing drugs. I've seen them shooting up in the parking lot before. Many/most go because of court orders. Or, they are pharmacists trying to get their license back. heh

I watched Fight Club and thought this would be a good idea. I think mechanico has talked about going to AA meetings. Are they free and can you just show up? Someone might need to make a thread on this....

Yes, they are free and you don't sign up or anything. Just show up and mingle. You never use your full name, just your first.

Example; you="Hi. I'm Houston and I'm an addict!"
Everyone else="Hi Houston!"

That's for NA. For AA you are an alcoholic. The two groups don't seem to like to mix for the most part but it may be different depending on where you are.

You should have some knowledge about drug culture or use, but you are not required to talk at meetings. If the broad you are sniffing asks what you are there for you have to sound believable though.

edit-Sex Anon meetings are generally full of gays and freaks that like shitting on one another from my experience. Your area may be different.

Hotwheels, I'm making a thread on this right now so everyone can see it.

[oldnemesis]

(10-29-2012 12:01 AM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

So, as the title of the thread implies, what's the consensus take here about dating girls that use drugs?

I dated a druggie chick long time ago. Here are the things to watch out for:

- You must be completely immune to drama. A druggie puts on A WHOLE LOT of drama. If you're kind of person who cries when he sees a sick kid on TV, don't even think about it. They'll eat you alive.

- Don't steal the drugs to give them unless you're looking for a prison sentence. When a druggie gets busted - which happens often - this is always to find out the suppliers. And guess who'd the police go for, some random shady dude she met at some parking lot, or a dude who she knows works for pharmacy?

- Don't bring them to your home, sooner or later they'll start stealing your shit. Even if she's got tons of money now, sooner or later they ALL run out of money and start whoring or stealing. Maybe even after you dump her, as a "payback". Don't tell her where you work or live.

- In your case there might be reasonable doubt that you DID provide drugs to her even if you didn't. For example if she gets caught, and the police finds out about you (even if she doesn't point at you), then there's a revision at your workplace and there is some oxycontin shortage. Guess what? You'll be likely the one doing some prison time for that. So watch out.

- Use a fucking condom. They rawdog a lot (I've never meet a junkie with a spare condom), and she might be rather persuading. You only have one life.

- Don't take drugs with them. I hope this one is obvious.

Now what's fun there:

- You can meet a lot of interesting cool people (mostly those who do shrums or other psych stuff) which would be quite hard to meet otherwise. They'll be very easy.

- They're all slim. Never met a fat druggie. Here in US this might be a bonus.

- You'll fuck all her druggie friends, in any possible way. Fivesomes with you and four chicks? Easy. She won't care, and neither would they. In fact she may even encourage you. The friends rotation is quite fast, and you'll always have fresh meat. Watch out for underage chicks though.

- You'll get to know some criminals. There are some really smart people out there. Not sure how useful it is here in the US, but in Russia it was very useful as a lot of things were settled through the criminal world.

- After watching all that you'll be immune for the drugs till the rest of your life.

Maybe I forgot something, it was like 20 years ago.

[oldnemesis]

(10-29-2012 03:53 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

the trick is how to do you bang meth sluts without having to do meth yourself.

There is no trick. You do that by either giving them meth, or being around them when they're doing meth which is easy if you're "friends" with one of their friends. In case they ask why you're not doing it, tell them you're expecting a drug test at the workplace this week, or that you're on probation, but generally they don't care.

Most druggies actually prefer to have someone around who's sober (and not a rat), just in case things go wrong and someone needs a hospital ride.

[CMan0928]

(10-31-2012 08:28 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(10-29-2012 12:01 AM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

So, as the title of the thread implies, what's the consensus take here about dating girls that use drugs?

I dated a druggie chick long time ago. Here are the things to watch out for:

- You must be completely immune to drama. A druggie puts on A WHOLE LOT of drama. If you're kind of person who cries when he sees a sick kid on TV, don't even think about it. They'll eat you alive.

- Don't steal the drugs to give them unless you're looking for a prison sentence. When a druggie gets busted - which happens often - this is always to find out the suppliers. And guess who'd the police go for, some random shady dude she met at some parking lot, or a dude who she knows works for pharmacy?

- Don't bring them to your home, sooner or later they'll start stealing your shit. Even if she's got tons of money now, sooner or later they ALL run out of money and start whoring or stealing. Maybe even after you dump her, as a "payback". Don't tell her where you work or live.

- In your case there might be reasonable doubt that you DID provide drugs to her even if you didn't. For example if she gets caught, and the police finds out about you (even if she doesn't point at you), then there's a revision at your workplace and there is some oxycontin shortage. Guess what? You'll be likely the one doing some prison time for that. So watch out.

- Use a fucking condom. They rawdog a lot (I've never meet a junkie with a spare condom), and she might be rather persuading. You only have one life.

- Don't take drugs with them. I hope this one is obvious.

Now what's fun there:

- You can meet a lot of interesting cool people (mostly those who do shrums or other psych stuff) which would be quite hard to meet otherwise. They'll be very easy.

- They're all slim. Never met a fat druggie. Here in US this might be a bonus.

- You'll fuck all her druggie friends, in any possible way. Fivesomes with you and four chicks? Easy. She won't care, and neither would they. In fact she may even encourage you. The friends rotation is quite fast, and you'll always have fresh meat. Watch out for underage chicks though.

- You'll get to know some criminals. There are some really smart people out there. Not sure how useful it is here in the US, but in Russia it was very useful as a lot of things were settled through the criminal world.

- After watching all that you'll be immune for the drugs till the rest of your life.

Maybe I forgot something, it was like 20 years ago.

Great post, oldnemesis. That's what I was more or less looking for. You made a lot of great points. I think there's a bit of a misconception here though. I'm not solely looking for drug users as the main type of chick I prefer to bang. It's just that over the last couple years I've formed some good camaraderie with quite a few current/ex-addicts who happen to be quite attractive. One girl, who I know is a current Heroin user, came in the other day to buy syringes. She smiled a lot and asked me some questions and then paid, thanked me, and left. Like 2 minutes later I was heading to the bathroom when she came walking up the opposite end of the aisle towards me. We made eye-contact, and she struck up a conversation yet again. The face was a solid 7, but the body was a 9 for sure. She was wearing this top that when she reached up to play with her hair revealed her stomach. Lots of definition. She caught me looking several times during the convo, and smiled each time my eyes returned to hers. Then, and for the life of me I don't know why, I asked for her number. She said absolutely and gave it to me. She even made sure to tell me to call her whenever I wanted as she walked away. I haven't called, because quite frankly, I don't wanna stick my penis in a girl that's using intravenous drugs. Even if she is rather sexy, looks like she knows how to fuck, and has a great physique. I'll pass on that. I'm more or less looking to game the ex/current pillpoppers. I think I could make a real project out of that. But we'll see. All the advice here is appreciated. You mentioned I should never take drugs with them. Does this include pills such as Percocet? I actually have a script for it myself (so if I'm drug-tested I can prove that I was prescribed them recently for my personal use). I don't think there would be any harm in popping a couple Percs with one of these chicks and then fucking or letting her suck my dick.

[iknowexactly]

Don't. None of it. You can be in a house, they get raided, you catch a felony, and your license could be gone for life. Everything else you try to do from then on will be tainted and more difficult because of the shit on your record.

[oldnemesis]

(11-01-2012 12:28 AM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Great post, oldnemesis. That's what I was more or less looking for. You made a lot of great points. I think there's a bit of a misconception here though. I'm not solely looking for drug users as the main type of chick I prefer to bang. It's just that over the last couple years I've formed some good camaraderie with quite a few current/ex-addicts who happen to be quite attractive. One girl, who I know is a current Heroin user, came in the other day to buy syringes. She smiled a lot and asked me some questions and then paid, thanked me, and left. Like 2 minutes later I was heading to the bathroom when she came walking up the opposite end of the aisle towards me. We made eye-contact, and she struck up a conversation yet again. The face was a solid 7, but the body was a 9 for sure.

Stay away from heroin junkies, those are the worst kind of druggies at the bottom of the totem pole. They do look attractive, as they're slimmer and the faces are sharper, but if she's buying needles, don't touch it. Not to mention they are usually never horny.

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I haven't called, because quite frankly, I don't wanna stick my penis in a girl that's using intravenous drugs. Even if she is rather sexy, looks like she knows how to fuck, and has a great physique. I'll pass on that.

Very smart. Follow your brain, not your dick.
Have you been in the company of druggies - some very cute - who were persuading you to try stuff? You need to be sure you can refuse without creating drama.

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You mentioned I should never take drugs with them. Does this include pills such as Percocet? I actually have a script for it myself (so if I'm drug-tested I can prove that I was prescribed them recently for my personal use). I don't think there would be any harm in popping a couple Percs with one of these chicks and then fucking or letting her suck my dick.

Think about the scenario described by iknowexactly above. You're experiencing a higher change to get busted while hanging out there. So pay extra attention in not having anything with you, on you or in you which will be used against you. No drugs, no Cuban cigars, no counterfeit DVDs, no porn downloaded from torrents. And be sober. In this case what you say (and especially what you NOT say) would mean life for you.

[iknowexactly]

(11-01-2012 02:04 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Don't. None of it. You can be in a house, they get raided, you catch a felony, and your license could be gone for life. Everything else you try to do from then on will be tainted and more difficult because of the shit on your record.

I know with the professional license i have ( not saying what it is) if I catch a felony conviction, permanent loss of my license is automatic.

There's no hearing or anything, it's black and white. Any felony, and it's for life, you can never get it back. And they go strictly by the book and do it-- you can look at the disciplinary records on the web site.

If they made allowances everyone would have to get one , if they didn't they'd sue etc.

What do you do then? They'll hire any cute college girl before you at Starbucks because you'll have to say on your job application "I have a felony." You'll have to go very tough places to work because in, say, an oil field, maybe they'll hire someone with a real record. You want to be working there with people who can't form a sentence? Former pharmacy clerk.

Stay away from that world. It shows you're desperate that you want to lower yourself to this. You can find healthy people to associate with.

[Wool Suit]

[CMan0928]

(11-01-2012 02:04 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

It shows you're desperate that you want to lower yourself to this.

Not at all. I meet, date, bang other girls that haven't touched a drug in their lives. My mindset is very simple. I work in a profession where 7's and higher are sometimes brought to my doorstep, and because of my job title, I automatically have value in their eyes. It gives me an immediate leg up. Do I care if these girls really like me for the person I am? Hell no. Because I probably don't like them for the people they are, either. It's about availability and finding a niche. It seems like a worthy avenue to explore if nothing else. Also, I have to admit after a lifetime thus far of dating girls that are often pretty straight edge, I wouldn't mind a "bad girl" type that keeps me on my toes a bit and isn't afraid to let her hair down so to speak. I find that attractive to be honest. But of course I don't want to do that at the expense of my health and/or professional situation. Keep an open mind, bro.

[Screwston]

Just go to NA meetings like we talked about in my thread. Keep a stash of pills at home and casually ask them what they like and take it from there. God forbid you have to work with those retarded cavemen in the oil fields!!

[cat_a_clysm]

Well whatever you do, don't ever try to date one unless you have a rock solid hookup for her drug of choice because she will definitely fuck for drugs. Shit, one girl I knew in college fucked a dude for $20 sacks of shitty weed.

[CMan0928]

(11-01-2012 06:32 PM)cat_a_clysm Wrote:  

Well whatever you do, don't ever try to date one unless you have a rock solid hookup for her drug of choice because she will definitely fuck for drugs. Shit, one girl I knew in college fucked a dude for $20 sacks of shitty weed.

Got her contact info by chance?

[oldnemesis]

(11-01-2012 03:18 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Stay away from that world. It shows you're desperate that you want to lower yourself to this.

I wouldn't call him desperate. Some people are just curious. Some want to take the advantage of situation. As I said, there is some unique fun there, which indeed comes with the strings attached.

[CMan0928]

(11-01-2012 09:10 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 03:18 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Stay away from that world. It shows you're desperate that you want to lower yourself to this.

I wouldn't call him desperate. Some people are just curious. Some want to take the advantage of situation. As I said, there is some unique fun there, which indeed comes with the strings attached.

That's the only way I'm viewing it. As a break from the norm. This has not and will not become my main target audience, so to speak. I don't see anything wrong with testing the waters. But the words of caution are well received. Once I feel like I'm slipping in a bit too deep, I'm gonna pull out. No pun intended.

[RASER]

Sounds like lots of drama and issues will follow

"I" would not bother with a druggie, plenty more *"normal"* fish-in-the-sea

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

[CMan0928]

(11-01-2012 10:27 PM)RASER Wrote:  

Sounds like lots of drama and issues will follow

"I" would not bother with a druggie, plenty more *"normal"* fish-in-the-sea

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

I think drama is gonna be par for the course in regards to this. But whatever. I wanna give the more open-minded, risque chicks a shot for a change. Working in a pharmacy gives me access to targets I've known for awhile. I have value in their eyes based solely on what I do and what I have access to. The foundation is laid and set. I just gotta start building on top of it now. It just makes sense.

[CMan0928]

Somewhere in my Top 200 list of things to do before I die is having a chick do a line of Coke off my dick. Maybe I'll retire from this particular arena once I achieve that. Who knows?

[oldnemesis]

(11-02-2012 06:39 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Somewhere in my Top 200 list of things to do before I die is having a chick do a line of Coke off my dick.

This is quite easy if you manage to keep yourself from laughing:

- Make sure you are hard, and will stay hard for the time. Don't start with the soft dick.
- Put your dick on the bed so it doesn't hand on, and have something under it (a paper sheet), so if you look down and laugh (quite tempting) the coke won't end up everywhere around.
- Don't put it on the cock head, and especially on your pee hole. This would be the worst thirty minutes of your life. Wash off the dick before getting it in afterward.
- Take a picture so you'd have something to brag about.
- You can practice with the baking soda + salt mix.

[CMan0928]

(11-06-2012 02:46 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 06:39 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Somewhere in my Top 200 list of things to do before I die is having a chick do a line of Coke off my dick.

This is quite easy if you manage to keep yourself from laughing:

- Make sure you are hard, and will stay hard for the time. Don't start with the soft dick.
- Put your dick on the bed so it doesn't hand on, and have something under it (a paper sheet), so if you look down and laugh (quite tempting) the coke won't end up everywhere around.
- Don't put it on the cock head, and especially on your pee hole. This would be the worst thirty minutes of your life. Wash off the dick before getting it in afterward.
- Take a picture so you'd have something to brag about.
- You can practice with the baking soda + salt mix.

I honestly didn't expect a step by step set of instructions, but thank you. Great post. It made me "LOL". I'm gonna go to the grocery store and grab some baking soda so I can start practicing this. A player needs to be ready lol

[CMan0928]

Update: Got a date with one of the girls I've been gaming who comes into the pharmacy where I work. We didn't go into specifics, but we're meeting for drinks Friday night. I have no idea at this point how my access to narcotics is valued in her eyes. She is in recovery and takes meds that block Opiates. We shall see.

[oldnemesis]

Every junkie I've ever met told me she was in recovery. Just tell her you don't care if she's in recovery or still doing her things, "your body, your choice", and maybe you'll hear the truth.

[Parlay44]

(11-19-2012 11:29 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Update: Got a date with one of the girls I've been gaming who comes into the pharmacy where I work. We didn't go into specifics, but we're meeting for drinks Friday night. I have no idea at this point how my access to narcotics is valued in her eyes. She is in recovery and takes meds that block Opiates. We shall see.

You know I've been waiting to find a hot girl that works the counter in a pharmacy.
I have a killer opener.

Totally straight face:
Me: Excuse me ...do these suppositories come in other flavors?

[CMan0928]

(11-21-2012 03:25 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(11-19-2012 11:29 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Update: Got a date with one of the girls I've been gaming who comes into the pharmacy where I work. We didn't go into specifics, but we're meeting for drinks Friday night. I have no idea at this point how my access to narcotics is valued in her eyes. She is in recovery and takes meds that block Opiates. We shall see.

You know I've been waiting to find a hot girl that works the counter in a pharmacy.
I have a killer opener.

Totally straight face:
Me: Excuse me ...do these suppositories come in other flavors?

Haha good thought. I may steal that.

[CMan0928]

(11-21-2012 03:26 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Every junkie I've ever met told me she was in recovery. Just tell her you don't care if she's in recovery or still doing her things, "your body, your choice", and maybe you'll hear the truth.

Should I show up for drinks already carrying (narcotics) or should I wait until she brings it up?

[snoop]

(11-21-2012 03:37 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

(11-21-2012 03:26 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Every junkie I've ever met told me she was in recovery. Just tell her you don't care if she's in recovery or still doing her things, "your body, your choice", and maybe you'll hear the truth.

Should I show up for drinks already carrying (narcotics) or should I wait until she brings it up?

Bringing them with you means you no longer have that as a reason to go back to your place.

Leaving them at your place means you now have to bring a junkie to your home, which carries its own set of potential problems.

And what works for one may or may not work for another chick, because drugs addicts are not predictable, so its really hard to come up with a "template" that you can use to recreate previous success. its pretty much just the shotgun approach, fire away and hope you hit something.