Quote: (10-13-2012 01:25 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
The way I see it is this.
- Ghetto ho shouts and verbally threatens a bus driver on short video
- Guy stops the bus and uses excessive force to shut her up.
- posters here like and cheer this action and start showing other videos of girl getting beat up.
I'm asking where is the line? Next time a girl says to the driver that he doesn't know how to drive and he knocks her out. is that ok?
Is it now not wanted that a girl talks back to a man? Should all women be submissive little beings who completely bent to the will of the man?
I liked your post simply because when everyone is in agreement, people become intolerant of dissent. Still, you're wrong because:
1. She hit him first. This alone is sufficient.
The rest is icing on the cake:
2. She remained a danger to him.
3. She endangered the bus riders, by distracting the driver.
4. She was obstructing the driver from conducting his duties.
I don't think it should be a bus driver's responsibility to maintain order in a scenario like this. It's very risky. But if he does decide to, he should have our support.
There is no universal set of rules that is appropriate for all settings. Consider a school, with honors classes and remedial classes. The kids in the honors classes may occasionally act up, but the teachers can keep order with the lightest of punishments. Meanwhile, in the remedial class rooms, sometimes the harshest of punishments don't deter kids from acting out. If you live your life in the bubble of an honors class, a setting where everyone is polite and orderly, you might be horrified by the tactics you'd see in a remedial class. But what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other.
Great example: Norway. Even their regular police don't carry guns. So they found themselves in quite a pickle when one of their countrymen was massacring unarmed people with high powered firearms. When you're confronted with violence, violence is required to restore peace. The aggressor will likely not stop until forced to.
I was kind of on the fence about the McD's beating, and definitely disagree with the Snookie punch - because whoever turns a verbal confrontation into a physical one is almost always at fault.