[Basil Ransom]

It's not that you're not social people, so much as being friends with girls means putting in all the usual effort *and* not getting any pussy. I've been friends with girls occasionally and found it rewarding. But for the most part, I find them draining, because most girls will look to you to entertain them and pull the weight conversationally. That shit is exhausting, when you don't have sex to break it up. They don't do much beyond attention whore, and the first thing I do with any attention whore is to walk away.

Also, even with girls who may seem intelligent, you can sense they see you as less of a man if you ever want to discuss anything seriously, without stopping to tease her and joke every 5 seconds.

The best way to hack social circles is to:

1. Have an activity that you enjoy, so that you work alongside cute girls and become friends with them. You then hang out with them when there are solid chances of getting pussy, especially house parties.

2. Have a good group of guys who do the work for you - they cultivate the relationships with girls, and you get them back with something else. Again, you show up when there's maximum potential for macking.

The point is to minimize the irritation inherent in having female friends, while still capitalizing on the benefits.

[NoBalls]

This thread disturbs me because I really like cold approach game. My game is weaker than most guys on this forum but I have had those rare moments where I cold approach a girl and everything progresses nicely and I end up in bed with her that night. That, to me, is far more satisfying than lays I have had from social circle game or online game. I think most women really enjoy these lays too.

Despite the changes due to mobile technology, women are still women. Women still will naturally get wet for and fuck the right guy. I'm thinking that what might be changing is who the right guy is. I'm also thinking that if most of a woman's lays are from facebook or social circle game, some women may crave the novelty and excitement of meeting a guy and fucking him without using technology.

I do see lots of women in groups when I go out and that is a challenge. Some girls won't care if their friends see them go home with a random guy but most women will care. I think we can make find a way to make night game work consistently for us in this modern technology ridden post recession age. There is one truth that will never go away - there are some women out there who really need a good dick. It would be quite a shame if many of these women go home alone and unsatisfied because we can't adapt to the changing conditions in the bar/club scene.

I for one will not be giving up trying to pick up hot women in bars despite the fact that I'm pushing 40.

[ccurtis189]

Luckily college bars are still hook-up central... even though I myself haven't had too much first-hand experience with it..

[Catch 22]

I've been getting more social circle lays lately and fewer cold approach ones. Hadn't really thought about why, but this thread probably hits the nail on the head. Problem with social circle lays is the after-lay time. Huge pain in the ass. And then you also can fall into the dangerous, "well, she's here, I'll just take it easy and bang her again tonight."

We need to avoid this social cirlce bullshit and find these new spots. If it's not bars, where are solo and 2-sets of lonely, single women going when they want to meet a guy? They don't all use the internet, I'd imagine. Time to adapt.

[Kish]

(10-12-2012 07:16 PM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

I've been getting more social circle lays lately and fewer cold approach ones. Hadn't really thought about why, but this thread probably hits the nail on the head. Problem with social circle lays is the after-lay time. Huge pain in the ass. And then you also can fall into the dangerous, "well, she's here, I'll just take it easy and bang her again tonight."

We need to avoid this social cirlce bullshit and find these new spots. If it's not bars, where are solo and 2-sets of lonely, single women going when they want to meet a guy? They don't all use the internet, I'd imagine. Time to adapt.

[XXL]

(10-12-2012 07:16 PM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

We need to avoid this social cirlce bullshit and find these new spots. If it's not bars, where are solo and 2-sets of lonely, single women going when they want to meet a guy? They don't all use the internet, I'd imagine. Time to adapt.

1. social circle is the first thing a single women will try to find a guy. sorry. she will ask her friends about guys, explore her social connections more, go out with friends to different social settings etc. from girls perspective it's the most safe way to find a guy. with growing popularity of facebook/twitter/internet social circle source will only get stronger.

2. hobby activities are the second thing. she will explore places she regularly attend like swimming pool, gym, yoga, language classes, etc and network there to meet guys. it's also safe since she share some commonality with people there so it's easier to start talking with each other.

3. casual encounters in daytime. she will make herself more available and open (subtle smile, eye contact, looking around, asking silly questions) in public places like.. in line, coffee shops, shopping malls, school, college, bus stops, concerts, picnics, etc.

4. clubs/bars. unless she's party girl who likes having fun in clubs the last thing on her mind is a fucking club. talk to any girl you know about meeting guys in club, most of them are scared of clubs and hords of guys hitting on them there. girls who hit up the club to find a guy, like actually going out in order to find a guy are the most desperate ones who failed to find one via networking. this is exactly like companies looking for employers. posting internet/newspaper ads is the last resort effort when finding right candidate through referals/interns/network/etc failed.

now don't get me wrong girls hook up at nightclubs/bars but most of the times it's because they get seduced by a guy who happened to be in the same venue not because of their plan. exceptions are girls who ended up relationship and want to get nasty to boost their poor self image.

[Catch 22]

True, and for us it would be the opposite. We like to go 4 then 3 then 2 then 1. As you move toward 1, you get more to them being the choosers and it being more like online dating, which cuts into the player's advantage.

Makes you wonder where the player's sweet spot is, then. Somewhere between day game and hobbies?

[XXL]

i was once in ideal situation where i was picking up girls left and right AND had my peer group of cute girl friends who enjoyed seeing me winning and losing. i think this was my sweet spot, best of both worlds.

[Aliblahba]

I'm not in one place long enough to be in social circles, nor do I particularly want to be in one. I've adapted. Get places on lockdown and create the bubble. People will approach. This is how I infiltrate a social circle to get a bang. Best thing is I don't have to commit to staying in it.

[Parlay44]

(10-10-2012 01:30 PM)Bronan the Barbarian! Wrote:  

I just moved to Portland a few months ago and noticed that 90% of bars in this city are crammed full with tables and booths. Everybody sits down to talk to their friends and nobody interacts outside of their social group. I can't tell if it's because people here are generally weird/aloof or if the bad logistics contribute to the lack of interaction.

Same thing goes for what I've seen of Seattle. Sat in a packed Seattle bar last weekend and observed for 30 minutes. I didn't see anyone do a cold approach or interact with another social group.

I'm seeing the table and booth thing popping up at my favorite spots as well.
Once the cool factor of a place diminishes they bust out the family style seating
I think I need to switch up my venues.

[TheWolfHowls]

Honestly, I feel the key is to avoid a place that's pretty mainstream. It will typically attract more bachelorette parties, social mixed groups and large groups of girls who just want to attention whore. Social Circle i wouldn't say trumps Cold approach game per se. Its the easier route no doubt but i think the reward of cold approach is more in the end. Especially if your in a favorable city that has consistent venues.

[Nudge]

(10-15-2012 05:59 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

Honestly, I feel the key is to avoid a place that's pretty mainstream. It will typically attract more bachelorette parties, social mixed groups and large groups of girls who just want to attention whore. Social Circle i wouldn't say trumps Cold approach game per se. Its the easier route no doubt but i think the reward of cold approach is more in the end. Especially if your in a favorable city that has consistent venues.

I agree. I think I wrote in another thread somewhere to avoid these top 40 generic places like the plague. Always going to be full of attention whores and big social groups. Find a niche like rock bar, latin bar, techno club, speakeasy, art gallery bar etc

[wildwyaatt]

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