[JVH]

I have a club that I am a regular at. I know the owner, and the staff all know me on a first name basis. I helped a couple of times when things got out of hand. (6' 2" 280lbs). Occasionally we get someone who is drunk or stupid and annoying the women. Steve has commented, keep an eye on that guy and step in if a woman starts to look upset with him. I usually just ask her to dance. If she needs an out she will dance with me and thank me for saving her. One guy (drunk) followed us out to the dance floor with "Hey I was talking to her". Steve came up behind him and escorted him out. Club owners know that their business is based on having lots of women. So they want them to be happy and feel safe. Anyone who is making his customers uncomfortable gets 86ed real fast.
I always make friends with at least one bartender just so I am verified as an ok guy.

My best guess is that you are doing something or acting in some manner that is putting you on the "Watch that guy" list.

[Avarence]

(10-05-2012 11:08 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Being a dick is the stupidest concept in the game community

Agree x100.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(10-05-2012 01:44 PM)IQVX Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 11:08 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Being a dick is the stupidest concept in the game community

Agree x100.

That would explain this guy totally not being a di... oh wait.

I agree with the gist of West Coast's post, but let's not get too crazy here.

[el mechanico]

(10-05-2012 02:00 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 01:44 PM)IQVX Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 11:08 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Being a dick is the stupidest concept in the game community

Agree x100.

That would explain this guy totally not being a di... oh wait.

I agree with the gist of West Coast's post, but let's not get too crazy here.

More shit in my county! Are you guys finding this because of links I post?
Like I said on the lounge thread. This place is fucked up

[Duke Castile]

There's a saying, "if you run into 3 or more assholes a day, it's not them, you're the asshole". There's a pattern where you tell a story and then some "white knight" comes out of nowhere and for no reason attacks you.

I'm still giving you the benefit of the doubt but I sense there's more to these stories at this point.

[MrXY]

Yes, something is certainly amiss.......

[HiFlo]

These two clubs sucked anyway, really trashy redneck clubs so no big deal.

I remembered where I saw the linebacker bouncer even though I initially thought I had never saw them. Back a week ago when I was "perfecting" my grinding game I had been grinding up against a real fattie (the only one who didn't run away when I started to grind on her I let her grind for a few minutes before I started to get a hardon then I also noticed some prettier girls looking at me and kind of laughing so I thanked said fattie for dance and stopped the grind.

Right to my right there were two kind-of cute black chicks and a huge black dude. I explained my fattie-grinding into one of the black girl's ears, "Hey, you gotta be nice to the fatties too! " Both the girls started to giggle uncontrollably for a few seconds then they realized that what I said was kinda rude so they transitioned to mock indignation. LOL!!! Then they told the huge black dude what I said. I noticed the black guy had a wire earpiece thing in. He told me what I said wasn't very nice and to get lost. Cause I saw the earpiece thing, I faded away.

This same huge black dude was the linebacker bouncer who kicked me out and called me a perv.

[Duke Castile]

Male Hamster?

[HiFlo]

here's a pic of me so you can see I don't give off the creepy perv vibe.

my attitude is definitely pretty aggressive though, so I think that lands me in more shit than is probably necessary

[WesternCancer]

You look pretty wasted man haha. Plus you're kind of leaning in/pulling in the girls with your wraparounds. Do you get really grabby?

[Cruisen_Chubby]

Is that a scanned picture from a mid 90's polaroid?

[HiFlo]

Nah, use an android app called Vignette to make pics look like that. Very cool app.

[Neo]

As other's have mentioned, there's something going on with your vibe. Without meeting you and probably going to one of these places it will be difficult to pinpoint by us on the board. Take an objective look at yourself and your actions.

If this stuff is happening all the time, it's something you are doing in the clubs. Either that or you are hitting up the places repeatedly and have gotten a bad rap.

Keep in mind that even non verbal behavior can contribute to this vibe.

A few years back I was in the line to a club. I got to the front, and the bouncer was checking my ID. He seemed to be in a pissed off mood. The bouncer then stared me down with an aggressive look and I decided I wasn't going to break eye contact. I had never seen this guy in my life, but the stare down was uncalled for and it was pissing me the fuck off. It felt like the moment right before an MMA fight. After about 5 seconds he says, "I'm not letting you in tonight." and he gives me back my ID.

[HiFlo]

So there's a new development as of last night. Apparently this bouncer is well-connected among the bars in my town and is getting me blacklisted from all of them, or at least trying.

Last night I go to one of the better bars in my city, and see a doorguy/bouncer who I've made small talk with in the past. He usually lets me walk right past the line. Not this time. He goes, "you're banned." I ask, "why?" He replies, "cause of what happened at XXX last week." I go, "man, what's the big deal, I picked up a drunk chick off the dance floor and said, 'you wanna get outta here,' she said 'yeah' and we started to leave before the bouncer kicked me out."

He goes, "that's not what I heard." I say, "well that's all that happened. Look, I'm sorry that it happened but it is what it is." He then goes, "get the fuck outta my face." I go, "so who was that bouncer anyway, can I talk to him?" He goes, "you're banned. Get the fuck outta my face" and is getting visibly angry. I leave.

So what the fuck is this original bouncer dude's deal? How do I fix this? Is it fixable? Or are other means necessary?

[XXL]

in that case your only way to get in venues is to bring girls. hot girls. many hot girls.

try to get in touch with managers of these clubs and tell them that you want to invite group of cuties but bouncers don't want to let you in cause they're prejudiced/pissed/random reason.

tell your girls what's up and teach them what they need to say in your defense just in case of another verbal confrontation with those bouncers. at the door tell those bouncers you got green light from club owner. they will not kick you out cause you have girls with you, it's good for the club. if they still casue problems call manager right there and the to let you in.

so befriend some attractive girls and bring them in. i don't really see other way

[BurnFirst]

If he put his hands on you you had every right to defend yourself.

[tom]

I'm a bit of a novice,but I reckon that you shouldn't be seen by these bouncers for a few months. Not trying to get in, not passing the front door club on the way somwhere else, not at all.

Then if you want to get in try going in a few times with clothes quite different. If you usually wear a blazer go in with a t shirt and a cap a few times.

[Soma]

Get one of these:

[Duke Castile]

What did the bouncer you spoke to say happened?

[HiFlo]

didnt say. wouldn't say.

[Hotwheels]

(10-06-2012 12:30 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  

Back a week ago when I was "perfecting" my grinding game I had been grinding up against a real fattie (the only one who didn't run away when I started to grind on her

I think that is a pretty obvious clue that your game is bad and is the cause of your problems.

Also, you mention you listen to RSD shit a lot. I'll guess you're a fan of what they call "Beast Mode"?

I recall reading quite some time ago that guys were getting their asses beat running that crap game and I can see why.

Work on your game. Bouncers will toss your ass if you make the broads uncomfortable and it's pretty obvious you're are doing a stellar job of that.

[Screwston]

I kind of feel like taking a roadtrip to NO after seeing that picture of him all fucked up lol.

[NoBalls]

I can this happening if a guy lives in a small town without too many bars. If a bouncer sees a guy hitting on too many girls all the time and is having a power trip then trouble can be ahead.

I have done lots of approaching and live in a big city. I avoid these types of situations by doing the following:
1. Never go to the same bar more than once in a month - this way I won't be too familiar.
2. If I cold approach and the women obviously don't want me around, I eject fairly quickly and politely.
3. I don't grind up on chicks. I see guys do it all the time and some girls seem to like it. But it just takes one sensitive girl to not like it and complain to a bouncer. Then you will be watched like a hawk.

[reino341]

Can you guys give some advice on how to befriend staff and bouncers?

The bouncers especially are quite intimidating.

[XXL]

small town game:
- don't burn venue and sets to the ground
- don't kiss/grind/molest in public, keep it innocent
- escalate in privacy
- don't give off playerish vibe
- be friendly, not polarizing, keep things in grey area

domesticating bouncers:
- bring hot girls with you to their venues
- give them hope of hooking up with some of your girl