[durangotang]

I don't think campus police have any jurisdiction outside of the campus. I think they can act on campus but have to call in the real police to take over from there (like a mall cop). I could be wrong though, but I doubt it. That is why they want you to come down to the school, so they have you within their little jurisdiction.

So don't go on campus to meet them.

I sure as hell wouldn't waste money on a lawyer at this point. I might not even return their call unless I wanted to game on campus again. If you wanted to be polite and have access to the campus without worrying about future interactions with their "police", you could return his call and try to smooth things over on the phone. You didn't commit a crime, you asked a girl for directions. If he claims you asked many girls for directions (or implies stalking, etc.) just laugh and say that is ridiculous. What is he going to do? It is your word against hers.

Furthermore, I would make it known that you are an alumni of the school and a donor and name drop a couple of people at the top of the administration. Just maintain your cool and maintain the frame of an innocent person returning their call as an act of courtesy. Oh, and have a good story for why you were on campus in the first place (and make sure it doesn't involve anyone else). Maybe you were just there to reminisce, to inquire about donating money, or to look into taking further classes.

No big deal. Nothing to stress about.

[Neo]

I don't think they have jurisdiction, but ask a professional.

If you are day gaming in a small town, it's best to switch up spots often. If you are in a big metro area this isn't a problem, but on a small college campus like you described it's possible that you may become 'that guy.'

With that said, I wouldn't sweat this. It's a little frightening at the time, but it will pass.

I've had a few tense encounters with police, including being woken up at 6:00 AM with a gun pointed at me with the officer saying:

"Remove your hands from under the pillow slowly."

An ex-girlfriend flipped out and decided to call the cops on me. I was 21 at the time. I was introduced to a few crazy unstable women pretty early in life. If I saw them today I'd personally thank them, because their actions and crazy behavior put me on the path of game and self-improvement.

[Divorco]

The original poster should not try to talk to police. He can only dig himself into a hole and get official documented warnings that could be used against him in the future. As far as I'm concerned, this was nothing but a prank call or case of bureaucratic misidentification. If they really want to see him then they can drive to his house and find him, where he should refuse to talk.

You won't be arrested on your first confrontation, but you could be given official warnings and essentially barred from campus. You don't want that.

[Deluge]

(09-17-2012 04:57 AM)Neo Wrote:  

I've had a few tense encounters with police, including being woken up at 6:00 AM with a gun pointed at me with the officer saying:

"Remove your hands from under the pillow slowly."

An ex-girlfriend flipped out and decided to call the cops on me. I was 21 at the time.

What did she say you did?

[HiFlo]

(09-17-2012 03:22 AM)houston Wrote:  

Are campus police even real cops?

Yes

[kali]

Never talk to the police without a lawyer present, ever!
Ignore the, find another campus and scare the shit out of the bitch that turned you in

[iknowexactly]

Wondering if the stalker texting him set up a fake call from the police.

[soup]

It's not a crime, but I try to never ask girls for shit.

In general, the more you need from them, the lest chance that you are going to fuck them.

[Nineteen84]

(09-17-2012 06:56 AM)Divorco Wrote:  

The original poster should not try to talk to police. He can only dig himself into a hole and get official documented warnings that could be used against him in the future. As far as I'm concerned, this was nothing but a prank call or case of bureaucratic misidentification. If they really want to see him then they can drive to his house and find him, where he should refuse to talk.

You won't be arrested on your first confrontation, but you could be given official warnings and essentially barred from campus. You don't want that.

I agree 100%. I assume they are asking you to go voluntarily (as they probably have no real grounds - if they did they'd have come to you anyway). You have zero to gain by meeting them at this stage.

You risk more by going to campus and you are not bound by law to go. In all likelihood they want to lure you to campus in order to have the girl confirm your identity.

[Kitsune]

I think you should probably change your opener now.

[XXL]

OP, tell us something about your interactions a bit more cause that's actually deciding factor. how did girls react towards you? how did they respond? did they contributed anything to the interaction? was it fun experience for them to talk to you? were they weirded out? what was the vibe?

we can't judge what happened looking at phone numbers to got (girls give away numbers like crazy) or at the angle you chose (although asking for directions and gaming afterwards is tough as fuck IMO there are guys who succeed at it so it's not the style or content per se that's bad here but as always the delivery and the vibe)

i suppose there was something OFF in general about your interactions (forcing the situation / not reading social cues) that resulted is such bullshit.

instead of fighting the system let's break it down more accurately, shall we?

[JohnKreese]

I could see if you had broken some law, had never gone to the university, or were engaging in a practice that nobody else on campus engages in, but a. daygaming isn't illegal b.you are an alum AND donate c. college guys are running the same games all day.

[Giovonny]

(09-17-2012 01:01 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Hahahaha!!!

It finally happened!!!

A guy got the cops called on him for day gaming!!!

I knew this day would come eventually!

This is funny and also scary.

[oregonziggy]

Campus police are a joke. And as of now there is no crime against asking for directions to pick up women.
I would ignore then completely and keep on asking for numbers. For now we can still do that.

[chstnpla]

Be careful; with the world of smart phones, someone may be recording what you do. The trouble with doing a routine over and over, if caught on a smart phone and sent to authorities, is that it does come off as strange. Add to that, did you follow their directions or continue asking more girls? Imagine that you in were another person's shoes watching this - what do you think they're thinking? Very unusual behavior.

As others mentioned, before saying anything, speak with a lawyer.

[Saladin]

(09-18-2012 02:48 PM)chstnpla Wrote:  

Be careful; with the world of smart phones, someone may be recording what you do. The trouble with doing a routine over and over, if caught on a smart phone and sent to authorities, is that it does come off as strange. Add to that, did you follow their directions or continue asking more girls? Imagine that you in were another person's shoes watching this - what do you think they're thinking? Very unusual behavior.

As others mentioned, before saying anything, speak with a lawyer.

Exactly. Always rotate locations and don't use the same opener too often.

[Giovonny]

I use the same openers everytime..

hi
hello
whats up
how are you

I hope no one notices a pattern and calls the cops on me

[durangotang]

(09-18-2012 03:56 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I use the same openers everytime..

hi
hello
whats up
how are you

I hope no one notices a pattern and calls the cops on me

Soon, that approaching women will be illegal unless you know them.

[Nineteen84]

I read a story like this a while back on some random forum. Can't find it now but here's another more recent one:

http://www.theattractionforums.com/day-g...quick.html

Might be something useful to help you in there.

[iknowexactly]

erroneous duplicate

[iknowexactly]

(09-18-2012 06:23 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I can't stay away from this thread because it's interesting on two levels:

One the geopolitical and technocratic issue of someone obviously centering his behavior around obtaining sex.

Should it be illegal? That's really the sort of attitude that public etiquette has been leading, which I think is insane. But this has already been discussed here.

The more interesting issue is how alienated men and women feel from each other.
This is deeper and more significant and why this sort of normal mating behavior can't be accepted.

The question becomes, how do things go wrong, and how does the behavior of each side perpetuate the behavior of the other's?

The mechanism is more interesting than assigning the blame.

With any diagnosis one should start with the symptoms:

Women: Feel fearful of social ostracism, maybe mostly from women, loathing boredom (remember they're dumber...harder for them to entertain themselves) , because the attentions of guys are unpredictable! Drat! ( This is then reinforced by guys acting unpredictable, otherwise women get bored. )

Unless a woman is a 9+ ("I don't have many female friends...") she is going to have a hard time getting all the attention and meaningless chatter that she needs to feel important. So she can't depend on guys for that. She has to keep that narcissistic supply coming from the chix.

Men: Frustrated by excessive suspiciousness and entitlement from women. When you think about it, those go together, because an entitled person HAS THINGS TO LOSE, or thinks they do, so of course they are suspicious.

So that hippo 4, who would verily empty the basin of the Amazon should she cannonball into it in a drunken, spring break-fueled frenzy of delight after eating a pizza that itself should be a monument to over-consumption-- and to avoidance of leaving a house or a vehicle; TO ACTUALLY GETTING ON YOUR FEET AND EXERCISING, YOU, VOLUNTARY GHASTLY WHALE--that hippo, you see, boy, that hippo is TOO GOOD FOR YOU.

[Blackhawk]

All the guy did is a reverse number search on http://www.zabasearch.com/ Don't be impressed.

1) It's a college campus. There's a good chance this was a prank call by a jealous douchebag impersonating an officer. Call back the number during an odd time and check out the voice mail you get. 99% you're going to hear douche bag's voice mail, not a campus office. If he ever calls back, demand his name and badge number. If he doesn't immediately give this, he's bullshit. Call the campus police office. Ask about the officer. 99% if you do get a name, it's fake and he doesn't exist. Check the badge number. 99% badge number is fake. If these both check out, request to speak to the officer. 99% chance you have someone impersonating an officer they drew off the internet and used the name of. You have a right to confirm the identity of the campus officer that has contacted you independently. You need to confirm this is even legit before you react to it.

BTW, impersonating a campus officer will get your little prankster in deep shit. It's only your word vs his that he did this. But if you get any recorded phone messages, you can probably get him expelled if you want. And if it was a staffer like a TA or admin clerk impersonating campus police, you can get him fired.

2) If the above checks out (which I highly doubt) request a copy of the complaint filed against you. They're a little postcard that has both the complaint's name and full contact info, and the reporting cop's name, badge number, and contact into. If there isn't any report, there's not even a complaint filed, and this guy's going rouge. Complain to his Sergeant, who will have a LOT of questions for the cop going rogue on paid time. Likely he will get unpaid leave and a nasty-gram in his file for this holding him back next promotion.

3) Ask him to show you a warrant. Until they show you a warrant, you're not going. Without a filed complaint with a complainant's name, you're not changing your behavior. But like I said, 99% you're being pranked by some douchebag. Be sure to reverse search his number and return the favor back.

4) NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE. Even rent-a-mall-cop campus police. There is a youtube video with this title. Watch it. Nothing good and only things bad can come from a conversation that will be recorded outside of a court room. You have a right to remain silent. Do so. Learn what Miranda Rights are. Use them.

[michelin]

whatever is the case here, keep her text messages in your phone, as well as written evidence (e.g. email address written down) to prove the bitch actually showed interest. It could save you a lot of trouble.

The very idea of Campus police is overally fucked up, and they need "incidents" like this to justify their existence. They would better spend time chasing shooters around campus instead, so they have something useful to do.

[CMan0928]

(09-18-2012 07:25 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

All the guy did is a reverse number search on http://www.zabasearch.com/ Don't be impressed.

1) It's a college campus. There's a good chance this was a prank call by a jealous douchebag impersonating an officer. Call back the number during an odd time and check out the voice mail you get. 99% you're going to hear douche bag's voice mail, not a campus office. If he ever calls back, demand his name and badge number. If he doesn't immediately give this, he's bullshit. Call the campus police office. Ask about the officer. 99% if you do get a name, it's fake and he doesn't exist. Check the badge number. 99% badge number is fake. If these both check out, request to speak to the officer. 99% chance you have someone impersonating an officer they drew off the internet and used the name of. You have a right to confirm the identity of the campus officer that has contacted you independently. You need to confirm this is even legit before you react to it.

BTW, impersonating a campus officer will get your little prankster in deep shit. It's only your word vs his that he did this. But if you get any recorded phone messages, you can probably get him expelled if you want. And if it was a staffer like a TA or admin clerk impersonating campus police, you can get him fired.

2) If the above checks out (which I highly doubt) request a copy of the complaint filed against you. They're a little postcard that has both the complaint's name and full contact info, and the reporting cop's name, badge number, and contact into. If there isn't any report, there's not even a complaint filed, and this guy's going rouge. Complain to his Sergeant, who will have a LOT of questions for the cop going rogue on paid time. Likely he will get unpaid leave and a nasty-gram in his file for this holding him back next promotion.

3) Ask him to show you a warrant. Until they show you a warrant, you're not going. Without a filed complaint with a complainant's name, you're not changing your behavior. But like I said, 99% you're being pranked by some douchebag. Be sure to reverse search his number and return the favor back.

4) NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE. Even rent-a-mall-cop campus police. There is a youtube video with this title. Watch it. Nothing good and only things bad can come from a conversation that will be recorded outside of a court room. You have a right to remain silent. Do so. Learn what Miranda Rights are. Use them.

You know I never considered this could be some joker playing around here. Good call. Maybe one of the girls finally caught onto this guys directions routine and had one of her male friends call for some payback. She probably realized she had been dooped and was pissed.

[snoop]

(09-17-2012 04:21 AM)durangotang Wrote:  

I don't think campus police have any jurisdiction outside of the campus. I think they can act on campus but have to call in the real police to take over from there (like a mall cop). I could be wrong though, but I doubt it. That is why they want you to come down to the school, so they have you within their little jurisdiction.

My campus cops were real police, not security guards, and they had the same authority as the city policy.