[docsedated]

(05-20-2010 04:23 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

I've tried a lot of colognes over the years, and it can take a lot of test samples before you find an expensive one thats worth buying. You have to get the testers first so that you dont waste your money. These usually cost a few dollars a piece, and you can order them online.

Go to http://www.basenotes.net/ for reviews.

Thanks for the tip on base notes they do have ecellent reviews on colognes.

Hydro , I do have one question for you, Where do you buy Testers/Samples from and is it possible to get Testers/samples of Creed Vetevier and GIT ?

Happy Hunting......

[clr]

Not to drag the thread back a few months when its gone towards colognes, but as for the suit bit, I lived in new york city for the past 8 years, Alpha said about wearing a suit "No one brought it up or thought it was weird. Its all about the attitude."

WOMEN will talk about you all the time, dozens upon dozens of times I heard women making fun of the guys in the suits. The difference in NYC is people wear suits to work so they are nothing special anymore, generally speaking, going out in your work clothes is not sexy, especially when everyone looks the same.

I used to go out a LOT and to very nice exclusive venues, what I have seen work very well in NYC (and have used myself) are quality sports coats with a nice open collared shirt, or a vest with a pimp tie, if you are going to wear any type of suit, it has to be obvious its a suit for going out and looking good, not a work suit and bland tie. You have to be edgy and take risks if you want to stand out in a city like New York.

Yeah yeah its about how you carry yourself but if you want an extra edge.....

[Nonpareil]

Has anyone tried making their own cologne? I did a blend last week, and it needs to sit for a few weeks to gain strength.

What you need is a scent-free alcohol (like ethanol, Everclear or 50% Vodka), essential oils (readily available at SWPL health-food wholistic stores), a dark bottle that's clean (I ran a wine bottle through the dishwasher) and time.

1 cup of alcohol, 25% base, 50% middle, 25% top notes. I used Myrrh as a base, threw in some Black Pepper, Tangerine and Cinnamon as the mid notes and have a top-note of Peppermint. Add a few tablespoons of distilled water towards the end to help it mix together.

I'll let you know how it goes.

The key to standing out while rocking a suit is to either have a sick, bespoke suit in the vein of MPM (if you can afford it), or to wear a suit blown open, but the accessory will really make it stand out. Think unique cufflinks, a flash watch or a cool belt.

Downtown in the banking district I'm like automatic in a greysuit blown open with my lightning bolt cufflinks, though this likely has as much to do with the fact that I'm much younger, taller and have way nicer eyes than your typical banker.

[Kish]

(05-18-2010 05:42 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

DC is one of the most paranoid, self-conscious, insecure, conformist environments out there "where you find people under 35 congregating".

No wonder you have had bad experiences.

Truth

[bigbootyluvr]

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Where will this give you an "advantage" at? At some snooty place in manhattan? Because the rest of the country it looks like you are trying too hard and are a possible douche bag. How do i know? I own a bar in a big city and guys who wear suits in after 10 pm fall in to two groups:

1. just came in with a wedding party

2. Wannabe baller, who looks like he's trying way to hard (HINT: This increases the perceived value of the girl, that you had to go that far to get her approval)!

clean lines and a sport coat are good, but a suit is just trying too hard. Most places you'll look like "that guy". Why artificially drive up the price of pussy by showing them you are trying too hard? This may work at happy hour at a high end place, but on a late night weekend it will fail in most bars/clubs.

17 years in the bar/club business shows me i'm right. If you are a guy who can pull this off, more power to you, you are in the minority.

(01-17-2010 12:51 AM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

Let me be straight up guys: Suit up, sharp tie and a pocket square..no matter what, it will give you a boost over the competition.

I went out to an event with my friend tonight. I was more like a chaperone, but had ladies opening to me with lines like "I like your tie" and "what do you do?" Totally awesome.

So this might be old news or even lame for some advanced people, but suiting up really gives me a boost and sets things apart. It's a classy move if you can run it.

I'm trying to make an effort to be out and about these days. I was wondering if the fellas have considered joining groups like meetup? I know its Boston and in the middle of winter but no excuses for being social.

[BostonBMW]

(01-30-2011 04:10 AM)bigbootyluvr Wrote:  

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Where will this give you an "advantage" at? At some snooty place in manhattan? Because the rest of the country it looks like you are trying too hard and are a possible douche bag. How do i know? I own a bar in a big city and guys who wear suits in after 10 pm fall in to two groups:

1. just came in with a wedding party

2. Wannabe baller, who looks like he's trying way to hard (HINT: This increases the perceived value of the girl, that you had to go that far to get her approval)!

clean lines and a sport coat are good, but a suit is just trying too hard. Most places you'll look like "that guy". Why artificially drive up the price of pussy by showing them you are trying too hard? This may work at happy hour at a high end place, but on a late night weekend it will fail in most bars/clubs.

17 years in the bar/club business shows me i'm right. If you are a guy who can pull this off, more power to you, you are in the minority.

(01-17-2010 12:51 AM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

Let me be straight up guys: Suit up, sharp tie and a pocket square..no matter what, it will give you a boost over the competition.

I went out to an event with my friend tonight. I was more like a chaperone, but had ladies opening to me with lines like "I like your tie" and "what do you do?" Totally awesome.

So this might be old news or even lame for some advanced people, but suiting up really gives me a boost and sets things apart. It's a classy move if you can run it.

I'm trying to make an effort to be out and about these days. I was wondering if the fellas have considered joining groups like meetup? I know its Boston and in the middle of winter but no excuses for being social.

Bigbootyluvr, you should reread what you wrote: "snooty places" "driving up the price of pussy"? What are we on the jersey shore, rocking blowouts and Ed Hardy shirts?

Wearing a suit is about congruence - you would be dbag with or without a suit, with a weesh attitude. Do suits (particular custom) get noticed? No doubt they do.

[thegmanifesto]

"Do suits (particular custom) get noticed? No doubt they do."

A little story:

I went out with my friend the other night (who I haven't hung out with in ages). I was Custom Suited Down, he was in the standard American nightlife attire: Jeans, nice shoes, button down untucked.

He proceeded to watch me rip the spot and strangle it; girls buying me $16 Goose and Sodas, get mad numbers and close hard.

The next night he rocked a Suit.

In one night he became a believer.

Again, Suits work for me.

They are not for everyone.

[hydrogonian]

(01-28-2011 09:02 AM)docsedated Wrote:  

Thanks for the tip on base notes they do have ecellent reviews on colognes.

Hydro , I do have one question for you, Where do you buy Testers/Samples from and is it possible to get Testers/samples of Creed Vetevier and GIT ?

Happy Hunting......

Its been a long time since I've ordered samples, but I've recently been in the market again for some decent frags and so I have some insight into it. I actually order them more for my pleasure than for the ladies, as once you get into to some great stuff its addicting to wear. I think that I may have ordered many samples from amazon and maybe another place at the time, but I can't remember.

Anyway, I've heard that this http://theperfumedcourt.com/ is a go-to place for a lot of the guys who want higher end samples of any type. You may also be able to order samples from http://scentmonkey.com, or one of the other places that regularly advertises on http://basenotes.com. The reason is that those merchants cater to the market that generally buys a lot of samples. The fallback is amazon.com

The key to samples is to get most of them from the same place, so that you aren't paying a separate shipping fee for each. To do that for a few of the better, rarer ones is fine, and I did it a lot, but you don't want to do it for all of them.

Edit: Upon looking, theperfumedcourt.com has a comprehensive selection, but its on the expensive side. I'd save it for the samples you can't find anywhere else, which it should be great for. If you look at the GIT sample price on this site, http://www.perfumeshop.com/brands-c-cree...tweed.html - that's the price that you should be shooting for. You may think that I'm nickel and diming it for shopping for a 2-3 dollar difference per sample, but its not uncommon for guys who are just getting into frags to order 50 samples. It can add up. Im pretty sure that you dont have to worry about counterfeits with samples, so should be able to be less selective about where you buy them.

[Brian]

i think some of it depends on the suit. if you are rocking a nice, fashinionable, well cut (or custom) suit and look the part you can pull it off. if you are wearing the ill fitting suit you got 3 years ago, way too baggy, poorly fitted dress shirt and you look like Joe from accounting you are going to look like a fool.

[Silent Knight]

I'd also agree that alot depends upon how the suit is customized to your body, as well what type of colors, materials, etc. it is made of. Some people just don't look good in certain colors.

I think this holds true for other clothing as well. A few years ago I won a $15 gift certificate to K-Mart in a stupid work charity raffle. I hadn't been to that store in 15+ years and had no idea what to get. I ended up purchasing this button-up shirt that was almost a perfect fit to my frame. Granted it wasn't high quality, but it was decent enough to use as a backup shirt of sorts.

Fast-forward a few months and I wound up having to wear it out on the town one night after neglecting to do laundry and pick up my dry cleaning during the week. I was a little hesitant wearing a K-Mart shirt to one of the finest establishments in town but I was not to be deterred. Long story short I had a good half dozen girls come up to me that night and compliment me on my shirt. I wore it the following week to class and had several female friends come up during the day and say the same thing.

Moral of the story is you gotta find colors, cuts and styles that fit your personality and body-type.

[HD668B]

G,
take a deep breath,

I do like the 256$ CK.

http://www.gq.com/style/suit-guide/20080...ow#slide=6

[docsedated]

I am writing to report to the Forum my recent experiment with perfumes but first of all huge accolade to Hydro for steering me in the right direction, I ordered some samples from perfumeshop

http://www.perfumeshop.com/

that included

1. Minotaure
2. Creed : GIT, Original vetiver, Imperial Millseme and Himalaya
3. Terre d hermes
4. Body by Kouros

I think it's a great Idea to try Samples and then get the bigger sizes if you like them and get favorable responses.

Final verdict for me is Creed GIT and Terre d hermes.

Once again Thanks to Hydrogonian.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Nothing turns on more than a great perfum... I agree that suits its a plus, but depending on where are you going can be weird. Here, in SP, a guy wearing it could be confused by the manager... hahaha. Better put good shoes, a designed coat (suit cut), formal without tie shirt and pants matching the coat. (jeans or not up to you)

[tt120]

i found this message board somewhat indirectly through reading the G manifesto - which is one of my favorite websites.

Here's my take on tryin to stay up while being on a tite budget;

Although I am rarely - almost never- suited down these days I will say that back when I was on a super tight budget (not fronting - I still kind of am) I pulled off ways to look like a don without spending saville row type money. Chinatown tailors is a good look for this. Also - when I couldn't afford the suit, I'd stress other things that go along with it. Like rocking off the rack suits that fit me well (most important as stressed a lot in this thread), with a custom made shirt and a Borelli tie. For shoes I'd go to Barney's and hit up the Co-Op floor. Its a far cry from a pair of Bally's but Barney's Co-Op brand are kinda tite; made in italy, still reputable, and always mirrors what is going on in the upper echeleons of the shoe game. So if you can't afford the full get-up... work on one thing at a time starting w the ties and shoes

In fact one of my favorite outfits ever involved an off the rack SPORTCOAT from Uniqlo of all places, costing about $45 , with an off the rack generic b.s. tyrwhitt shirt, but with a Lanvin tie and Barney's shoes.

Being custom suited down is the ultimate but for those on the come'up... get shit that fits right and you're confident in, with one or two peices luxury flair and have the swag to pull it off..you'll be straight

[Screwston]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Stacy Adams. Those are some classic og shoes.

[Invictus]

I never hit the clubs anymore. Might change that.

G-Manifesto - care to comment on whether you'd wear a suit anywhere EXCEPT a club?

I can't help but think most guys who wear suits outside the office are tools. I don't dig the American frat boy look either, or the prep-school style.

In a swanky club, I can see how a suit might work. But most clubs here in Denmark don't seem to merit that attention.

Note: I'm 24.

[InternationalSwagger]

(03-24-2011 02:34 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Nothing turns on more than a great perfum... I agree that suits its a plus, but depending on where are you going can be weird. Here, in SP, a guy wearing it could be confused by the manager... hahaha. Better put good shoes, a designed coat (suit cut), formal without tie shirt and pants matching the coat. (jeans or not up to you)

Or if you are Black you can be confused as a security guard because the overwhelming majority of security guards in the clubs I've been to in Sao Paulo are Black. The key is to make it as GQ and sharp as possibly and accesorize a bit to make your suit stand out in a cities like Sao Paulo where they arent worn much outside of business or work and places where the men are generally dressed like douche bags in the last seasons' Abercombie & Fitch/Diesel crap.

[thegmanifesto]

Invictus -

The key point you made is: "Note: I'm 24."

I think you are still a couple of years from this level of the Game. I know I was at your age. Plus I look young.

When you are a little older, the venues you go to change drastically.

Let me break it down so it is nice and crystal clear:

In New Orleans, I don't hang at Razzo's. I am at Galatorie's (jacket required).

In Las Vegas, I am at the top Spots in Wynn, not Palm's or Hard Rock.

In LA, I am in Beverly Hills, and private clubs in West Hollywood. Not a dive bar in Hollywood.

At the fights, I am ringside.

At the racetrack I am in the Turf Club (jacket required) not Gen pop.

I roll to Charity Events and Art Gallery openings, not sports bars.

These days, I am trying to make the big bucks, like Scrooge McDuck.

I am not playing around, I am playing for Big Stakes.

Make sense?

Let me know if you need more clarification.

[glassjawed]

(03-28-2011 08:17 AM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

(03-24-2011 02:34 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Nothing turns on more than a great perfum... I agree that suits its a plus, but depending on where are you going can be weird. Here, in SP, a guy wearing it could be confused by the manager... hahaha. Better put good shoes, a designed coat (suit cut), formal without tie shirt and pants matching the coat. (jeans or not up to you)

Or if you are Black you can be confused as a security guard because the overwhelming majority of security guards in the clubs I've been to in Sao Paulo are Black. The key is to make it as GQ and sharp as possibly and accesorize a bit to make your suit stand out in a cities like Sao Paulo where they arent worn much outside of business or work and places where the men are generally dressed like douche bags in the last seasons' Abercombie & Fitch/Diesel crap.

This is one of my biggest issues with Brazil is that they don´t even know what a good suit looks like.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

The manager is white. The security guards are black most of times.
I agree glassjawed. 99% of men wear the worst suit cut ever. I can tell you which men are single among several just the way they are dressed. If dressed sharp and looks ugly, he has a GF or LTR. If he is wearing something besides blue, green, and other neutral colors despite yellow, his wife/gf told him so.

[ModernRUBIROSA]

thegmanifesto - Read your blog in regards to your response on my stripper flake thread and damn you have probably the sickest blog out there. This question is better suited for this thread..You refer to being "G Manifesto Certified" in your blog alot..Aside from applying your principles, theories, and moves from the blog..What else does ones regimen, routine, etc need to look like to be "G Certified" ?

[thegmanifesto]

ModernRUBIROSA -

"you have probably the sickest blog out there."

Agreed. But I may be biased.

"What else does ones regimen, routine, etc need to look like to be "G Certified" ?"

You just have to be dope. Make your own moves. Be original. Basically everything I write about.

I hope this helped.

[ModernRUBIROSA]

thegmanifesto - Most definitely helped - Basically pull your own strings, march to the beat of your own tune, do the tried and true as opposed to philosophies etc. Thanks carnal.

[Chad Daring]

I'd love to have the bank to grab one nice custom suit, even if its a Chinatown special. For everyone putting down the idea of the suit in modern "young" american nightlife scene, I think its all in how you wear it. The basic idea of game is that it all boils down to who you are, not what you wear, how much money you have, what you do, its all about you. I think with the right swagger you could make a suit work anywhere.

I wouldnt try it now, still not confident enough. I could see how me, as I am now, in a suit at a bar or club wouldn't work because I wouldn't walk in the place and demand the respect and eyes of everyone in the place. If you dont demand the respect in in a getup that demands respect you're a chump, and you're gonna be looked at like a chump.

A custom suit and that kind of swagger are something I hope to have by the end of 2011

[thegmanifesto]

It is kind of funny how in this day and age the Suit (ie what a man is supposed to wear) throw people off so much.

I just read part of Naught Nomads interview where he said he dressed up as a Mexican Pirate for a month straight!

Just proves that you can pretty much pull off anything.