[avantgarde]

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2001/08/On...-Says.aspx
Then again this is a faith website, it is probably promoting abstinence and the survey is might be biased. Seriously, 31% of senior girls are virgins, that sounds like BS. I think it is more like 5-10% are virgins.

http://www.self.com/health/blogs/healthy...ir-vi.html
another post, seriously quote, : "We hear over and over from readers that they are waiting for the right guy to have sex for the first time, rather than simply viewing it as an item to check off their high school or college bucket list," Kaplan says. "Results like this one will help to further mitigate the pressures to have sex."
It sounds like they are getting less slutty, ,quote: " the proportion of 15- to 19-year-old females who have ever had sex declined from 51 percent in 1988 to 43 percent in 2006-2010."

[Excelsior]

I have heard rumblings of this trend before. One theory behind it basically posits that younger girls are actually starting to rebel a bit by rejecting the ideology their mothers (the leaders of the sexual revolution) and keeping their legs closed a little more.

I don't know if I buy it (haven't seen much evidence for it and what I see anecdotally seems to rule it out), but I can't be sure. It isn't implausible I guess, especially with the rise of conservatism in America (to be driven further in coming years by higher conservative fertility rates).

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Hamster-rific!

[23Billion]

Bro I don't buy this 'study'!! I call it complete b.s.

When I was in high school here in Toronto everybody was getting laid. If you had friends and could laugh at anything you would've gotten laid. If you were socially awkward or weird then you might have had to work hard at it a bit but everybody got laid in high school eventually. Heck there was a small park beside my high school and we used to hear about people getting bjs in that park behind the trees! During my teens when I used to work at McDonalds everybody who worked there was getting laid too. Same thing when I worked at Harvey's and Wendy's.

Just my 2 cents. I have never known a girl who remained a virgin in her teens.

[Gmac]

The women are lying... as usual. Duh.

[Tuthmosis]

That said, at "nerdier" schools the numbers can be pretty high.

[avantgarde]

(09-03-2012 01:54 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Bro I don't buy this 'study'!! I call it complete b.s.

When I was in high school here in Toronto everybody was getting laid. If you had friends and could laugh at anything you would've gotten laid. If you were socially awkward or weird then you might have had to work hard at it a bit but everybody got laid in high school eventually. Heck there was a small park beside my high school and we used to hear about people getting bjs in that park behind the trees! During my teens when I used to work at McDonalds everybody who worked there was getting laid too. Same thing when I worked at Harvey's and Wendy's.

Just my 2 cents. I have never known a girl who remained a virgin in her teens.

Was it that easy to get laid? I mean, there are plenty of people get so nervous when talking to girls in high school.
If u are weird and don't try hard enough, getting laid is not easy in high school or even in college for a guy. If u can go to academically focused school, there will be a lot of awkward people that are not getting laid. But it sounds unlikely that the numbers are like these said in the surveys unless the school has a lot awkward nerds or seriously religious people. In assume it is as hella easy for women though.

[23Billion]

Hey man, yeah man everybody I knew was getting laid. Sure there might have been some people who struggled. But most of the people I know got laid.

If you could arrange a car for a day or two then it was a sure bet.

(09-03-2012 02:13 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 01:54 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Bro I don't buy this 'study'!! I call it complete b.s.

When I was in high school here in Toronto everybody was getting laid. If you had friends and could laugh at anything you would've gotten laid. If you were socially awkward or weird then you might have had to work hard at it a bit but everybody got laid in high school eventually. Heck there was a small park beside my high school and we used to hear about people getting bjs in that park behind the trees! During my teens when I used to work at McDonalds everybody who worked there was getting laid too. Same thing when I worked at Harvey's and Wendy's.

Just my 2 cents. I have never known a girl who remained a virgin in her teens.

Was it that easy to get laid? I mean, there are plenty of people get so nervous when talking to girls in high school.
If u are weird and don't try hard enough, getting laid is not easy in high school or even in college for a guy. If u can go to academically focused school, there will be a lot of awkward people that are not getting laid. But I doubt the numbers are like these said in the surveys unless the school is full of awkward nerds. In assume it is as hella easy for women though.

[Gmac]

(09-03-2012 02:41 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Hey man, yeah man everybody I knew was getting laid. Sure there might have been some people who struggled. But most of the people I know got laid.

If you could arrange a car for a day or two then it was a sure bet.

(09-03-2012 02:13 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 01:54 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Bro I don't buy this 'study'!! I call it complete b.s.

When I was in high school here in Toronto everybody was getting laid. If you had friends and could laugh at anything you would've gotten laid. If you were socially awkward or weird then you might have had to work hard at it a bit but everybody got laid in high school eventually. Heck there was a small park beside my high school and we used to hear about people getting bjs in that park behind the trees! During my teens when I used to work at McDonalds everybody who worked there was getting laid too. Same thing when I worked at Harvey's and Wendy's.

Just my 2 cents. I have never known a girl who remained a virgin in her teens.

Was it that easy to get laid? I mean, there are plenty of people get so nervous when talking to girls in high school.
If u are weird and don't try hard enough, getting laid is not easy in high school or even in college for a guy. If u can go to academically focused school, there will be a lot of awkward people that are not getting laid. But I doubt the numbers are like these said in the surveys unless the school is full of awkward nerds. In assume it is as hella easy for women though.

Yeah it obviously came naturally to him. Pussy was an impossibility for me in high school and most of college.

For even marginally attractive women in college it's the easiest sex they ever have in their lives. Game for college chicks is basically go to a party with booze and grab a penis.

[R Smoov]

My college has a statistic that says 52% of students dont drink. Which is bullshit.

You gotta understand that these statistics based on student behavior will always be inaccurate.

You put a online survey asking a college student if they had done something like drinking alcohol, of course people who get hammered everyday are going to click "I never drink alcohol".

[avantgarde]

(09-03-2012 03:01 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 02:41 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Hey man, yeah man everybody I knew was getting laid. Sure there might have been some people who struggled. But most of the people I know got laid.

If you could arrange a car for a day or two then it was a sure bet.

(09-03-2012 02:13 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 01:54 AM)23Billion Wrote:  

Bro I don't buy this 'study'!! I call it complete b.s.

When I was in high school here in Toronto everybody was getting laid. If you had friends and could laugh at anything you would've gotten laid. If you were socially awkward or weird then you might have had to work hard at it a bit but everybody got laid in high school eventually. Heck there was a small park beside my high school and we used to hear about people getting bjs in that park behind the trees! During my teens when I used to work at McDonalds everybody who worked there was getting laid too. Same thing when I worked at Harvey's and Wendy's.

Just my 2 cents. I have never known a girl who remained a virgin in her teens.

Was it that easy to get laid? I mean, there are plenty of people get so nervous when talking to girls in high school.
If u are weird and don't try hard enough, getting laid is not easy in high school or even in college for a guy. If u can go to academically focused school, there will be a lot of awkward people that are not getting laid. But I doubt the numbers are like these said in the surveys unless the school is full of awkward nerds. In assume it is as hella easy for women though.

Yeah it obviously came naturally to him. Pussy was an impossibility for me in high school and most of college.

For even marginally attractive women in college it's the easiest sex they ever have in their lives. Game for college chicks is basically go to a party with booze and grab a penis.

Yes, indeed, if everyone had an easy time getting laid since HS, then many of us wouldn't be improving our game.

[Caligula]

I bet a lot of these are only 'technically' virgins. They've been sexually active but always stopped short of banging.

[Newb#3]

Some reasons for this could be:

• lying- girls are definitely capable of lying on surveys
• overweight/obese girls who can't find a partner or refuse to lower standards
• increased polarization of sexual habits. Girls who lean on the slutty side are getting sluttier, while girls who don't are getting laid even less. The amount of sex happening could be increasing while the number of participants go down.
  

[Samseau]

(09-03-2012 09:32 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

I bet a lot of these are only 'technically' virgins. They've been sexually active but always stopped short of banging.

or they think anal only means they're still virgins

[caps]

from my knowledge there is a decent percentage of college virgins out there (SIGNIFICANTLY less than one third).... the catch is that the percentage of these girls who are attractive is basically non existent.

99.9% of attractive girls who goes to college are indoctrinated into the cock carousel either through greek life (they all want desperately to fit in and climb the social ladder, they can't help it) or through the living conditions on/off campus.

I saw a few of cases of good looking girls who held out to their junior/senior years to give away the V card. the interesting thing about these instances was that these girls were really into the campus related religious organizations (hilarious) and had this social structure which ironically looked down on fucking around. EVEN THEN these chicks still couldn't hold out.

The college experience is absolutely ruinous when it comes to having quality girls with a least somewhat existent morals. these american girls just don't have the defenses to make it through without succumbing to social pressures.

[captaingeneric]

Hehe yep, I've been seeing a 20 years old technical virgin over the past few weeks. No P-in-V yet, but just about every other dirty act in the pornstar playbook has been enacted.

With that said, I can buy this study. The type of guy who parties/fucks girls in college tends to seriously underestimate the number of students who make up the unseen, unheard, off-the-radar segment of the student population. Outside of LTRs, there's not a whole lot of fucking going on there, believe me.

Consider also the case of Japan, where studies have shown that a disproportionate number (some ridiculous number like 50-60%) of late-teen/early twenties women are uninterested in or have never had sex. Is it that farfetched to believe that the same kind of phenomenon is making its way to our shores? I don't think so.

[caps]

(09-03-2012 10:39 AM)captaingeneric Wrote:  

Hehe yep, I've been seeing a 20 years old technical virgin over the past few weeks. No P-in-V yet, but just about every other dirty act in the pornstar playbook has been enacted.

With that said, I can buy this study. The type of guy who parties/fucks girls in college tends to seriously underestimate the number of students who make up the unseen, unheard, off-the-radar segment of the student population. Outside of LTRs, there's not a whole lot of fucking going on there, believe me.

Consider also the case of Japan, where studies have shown that a disproportionate number (some ridiculous number like 50-60%) of late-teen/early twenties women are uninterested in or have never had sex. Is it that farfetched to believe that the same kind of phenomenon is making its way to our shores? I don't think so.

yeah there were some notorious technical virgins in my high school days. the president of the school handed out blowjobs to football players like it was her sole duty in life. I guess it's possible that some of these girls carried this over into college.. in my experience though the technical virgins are the ones who become notorious for doing absolutely crazy shit. that religious upbringing can backfire in a big way...

good point, I agree with this completely. i think this is directly related to attractiveness. girls who are not even remotely fuckable (sober) have it tough, especially the ones who hold onto standards of having Mr. Right.. which in my view there is a pretty large portion of american females who fit this mold. these girls tend to lay low after moving off campus. they accept their place.

i will stand by my point that virtually every attractive girl in college who is not a religious fanatic (and even then...) ends up with a minimum 3-4 notch count, MUCH higher in most cases.

[markus]

(09-03-2012 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 09:32 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

I bet a lot of these are only 'technically' virgins. They've been sexually active but always stopped short of banging.

or they think anal only means they're still virgins

Agreed. I grew up in a relatively conservative community in the Bible belt. A lot of women were "saving themselves for their husbands." The super churches in the area encouraged girls to sign virginity pledges. But that didn't stop the majority of them (at least the attractive ones) from being total whores. One girl was the student body president, had the highest GPA in the school, was a technical virgin, and took it in the ass as often as possible.

[captaingeneric]

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good point, I agree with this completely. i think this is directly related to attractiveness. girls who are not even remotely fuckable (sober) have it tough, especially the ones who hold onto standards of having Mr. Right.. which in my view there is a pretty large portion of american females who fit this mold. these girls tend to lay low after moving off campus. they accept their place.

Yeah, I think that for every cock carousel rider out there, there's at least two carousel watchers. Girls who aren't engaging in promiscuous behavior themselves, but who are living vicariously through their girlfriends for one reason or another, or who's narcissistic hypergamy is making them hold out for a guy way out of their league until they hit the wall and have to settle. There's nothing I love more than watching these kinds of women crash and burn.

[porscheguy]

(09-03-2012 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 09:32 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

I bet a lot of these are only 'technically' virgins. They've been sexually active but always stopped short of banging.

or they think anal only means they're still virgins

Or they suck dick like there's no tomorrow.

[Kitsune]

"Oh David.. he doesn't count because that's a one time thing"
"Oh Johnny... he doesn't count because that was just a BJ"
"No, not Will... that doesn't count I was drunk!"
"Yeah I gave him a handjob, Steve that is, but that's because it was a dare"
"Remember that time we got wasted with Tommy and Billy... I tried anal because I was still a virgin"
"Winston doesn't count because I was just seeing if it was true what they say about black men!"
"Rodrigo? That was just a holiday fling... it didn't mean anything"
"That guy Phillip.. his dick was the size of my thumb I guess I'm practically a virgin!"
"What happens in Vegas.. stays in Vegas!"

[scorpion]

Here's a quick guide for determining whether a college-aged girl is a virgin:

Is she a 5 or above?

If the answer is yes, she's probably not a virgin. If she says so, she's probably lying.

So basically, if a girl is remotely worth fucking, most likely somebody already talked his dick in there before you did.

I only knew a single decently attractive virgin in college, and she was maybe a 6, and from a very conservative background.

Plus, what does virginity even mean these days? Is a girl who has sucked twenty five dicks and been fucked in the ass by half a dozen guys a virgin if she's never had vaginal sex? Only by the most strict adherence to the definition. A girl like that may be a "virgin", but she sure as hell isn't innocent.

[lurker123123]

new definition of virgin is a girl who's taken less than 10 dicks. still not that many virgins out there

[WanderingSoul]

(09-03-2012 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-03-2012 09:32 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

I bet a lot of these are only 'technically' virgins. They've been sexually active but always stopped short of banging.

or they think anal only means they're still virgins

I'd rather be with a chick who fucked 40 dudes, than one who has been buttfucked by 20 lol.

[Excelsior]

(09-03-2012 04:23 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Here's a quick guide for determining whether a college-aged girl is a virgin:

Is she a 5 or above?

If the answer is yes, she's probably not a virgin. If she says so, she's probably lying.

So basically, if a girl is remotely worth fucking, most likely somebody already talked his dick in there before you did.

I only knew a single decently attractive virgin in college, and she was maybe a 6, and from a very conservative background.

In all fairness, I know a few girls who were certainly north of 5 on the rating scale (some solids 7s and 8s, actually) and were virgins following their 18th birthday. Several of them lost it within their first two years in college...some may still not have done so. Even the ones who have have not been taking too many dicks (a bf and 1 or 2 exclusive steady hookups so far in the case of many). There is a visible subset of girls who get around a lot, but most seem pretty choosy about who they let in and, apparently, not a lot of dudes make their cut.

Granted, my school is an Ivy, which means it is full of bright but socially inexperienced, relatively awkward nerds who have historically been a bit too academically conscientious to devote much time to the mating game. We've also got a disproportionately large number of "aspies", or folks who behave like aspies. Finally, there are quite a few religious girls here, many more than you'd expect to find at such a school.

Regardless, I'm certain that this situation wouldn't follow at your more standard university (public or private). In the case of other highly selective schools (Stanford, MIT, other Ivies, etc) and some of our nation's more religious institutions (ex: BYU, Liberty U, Bob Jones U, Oral Roberts, etc), the situation might be closer to what I described and to what the article in the OP hints at.