How to call women out on their bullshit and stop enabling them to treat you like shit
08-04-2017, 04:53 PMQuote: (08-04-2017 03:51 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
We were hard on you OP, but if what you say is true then you fit the description of a good-looking guy a bit stuck in a life crisis and Beta/Purple Pill state. Don't beat yourself up over it.
Since you are lifting already then I would recommend No-fap which will clear your mind.
In addition if you are struggling with depression, then take a good High Potency Multi, Vitamin D3 5000IU and some daily L-Tryptophan at levels of 500mg to 2000mg (start with 500mg plus the Multi - https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-...ze=SW882). If you get rid of the worst toxins in the food like artificial sweeteners as well as too much MSG, then the biggest neurotoxins are done.
Within 2 weeks you will feel a stronger man especially with the high potency non-toxic multi which will give your body essential nutrients at levels that were lacking for a long time - the official RDA levels of some nutrients are bullshit. We need far more of them - vitamin C, E, D, B-group etc.
I would also recommend reading the books or site by Rollo Tomassi - Rational Male. He already has 3 books out and even some audio-books for easy listening. It will help you to reprogram yourself from the Blue Pill indoctrination that we are all influenced by since our childhood.
Since you are already in good shape, are good-looking, you get laid because of it - all you need to become is simply more Red Pill aware and a stronger version of yourself. It does not matter whether you are introverted or extroverted - you fit Game to your personality and not vice-versa. You don't "game your women" - you are sometimes the cocky funny, the amused mastery guy, the automatic joking shit-test deflector, the iron Frame-holder of "My way or the Highway missy". You have to realize that this is how men should all be taught to treat women - like casual good-natured slightly arrogant chauvinists.
If you want to show weakness or talk about your problems - talk with a male friend.
Those are some basic kernels of wisdom. By the way - some women report that certain men are attractive, but "too nice" for them. So they come back occasionally for sex, but the pull of a more dominant more Alpha man is simply stronger. The good part is - that countless men have learned to bring out the "more Alpha guy out" - or to create better "chemistry". Women .... chemistry .... yeah - Game is learned charisma.
Thank you. I become very familiar with no fap like 7 years ago and while I am skeptical of many of the claims, I do understand the basis of it. At this point I've reached the point where I generally just a few times a month and porn doesn't really do shyte for me anymore except on rare occasions. I am also heavily interested in supplements and have spent a lot of time researching these over the years to help with the depression and I've found them to be a tremendous help. I just started looking into the Rational Male too and it seems more relevant than ever...
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It does not matter whether you are introverted or extroverted - you fit Game to your personality and not vice-versa. You don't "game your women" - you are sometimes the cocky funny, the amused mastery guy, the automatic joking shit-test deflector, the iron Frame-holder of "My way or the Highway missy".
When I said "game women" I didn't really mean some formulaic strategy of analyzing your situations and acting logically all in real time. I understand a lot of this is spontaneous and variable and based on context. But it seems that you do have to maintain a very active awareness of what the girl is doing. This is a nuanced idea that I hope I can learn with time. Recognizing in your gut how you're supposed to handle the situation and doing it in real time is a challenge for me.
Quote: (08-04-2017 04:04 PM)Jetset Wrote:
I got to tell you, waiting two and a half hours for some silly bitch is pretty needy. Look up "compliance testing". She constantly did this and you constantly passed: she decides what will happen, and you sat through it patiently. This girl knows she's just a FWB, that's more than enough time to bring some over plate over to bang and make sure this one can smell it on you if she ever shows up.
In the future, you pull her into your frame. You set the compliance tests. You withdraw attention if she fails. Innocent, contextual things. Be ten minutes late, tell her to wait for you at the end of the bar. Tell her to wear that black top with the lace shoulders.
Solid point and solid advice...
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I didn't read all of your examples as closely as I should have the first time, but holy shit, bro. Example #1? She knew exactly what she was doing the whole time. She made absolutely certain that you would do anything she said and put up with anything. She literally invited you to come watch her date another guy, and you went. Why did you go? What were you trying to accomplish? Be honest.
At the time, I actually thought she was reluctant about the double date and thought she wanted me to come so it would be awkward and the guys wouldn't bother her much. She basically said she wasn't very interested in the guys she was going to meet and wouldn't talk to them much, so I took that as a sign that she thought it would be a strange but potentially funny experience if I showed up and made it all awkward. I really, really wanted to know what would have actually happened if these guys (who I knew nothing about) showed up.
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I told her how much I was struggling, which turned out to be a big mistake, because apparently she interpreted that as an invitation to just take advantage of me even more.
Especially with this one, but yes, AWALT.
What kind of a person would do this to someone? Out of all the things said in this entire thread so far I can't believe it would be in a woman's nature to have this small of an amount of empathy. You really think women naturally take advantage of guys who are depressed because they can manipulate them more?
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She would have burned your entire life down dragging you into her disaster of a world, and then blamed you for all of her problems when it was over.
As for being vindictive, you can't out psychopath a psychopath. They're better at it than you are. I would leave this one in the dumpster where you put it.
If you think about it, she was completely worthless. Not even good at sucking dick. Dumping her was as unimportant as firing a shoddy handyman.
Probably. I really want to send her a text that says "You know what? Fuck you. Thank you for having zero compassion or empathy for a fellow human being and not valuing my time or respecting me at all". But I'm not sure what it would do.
I still maintain she wasn't doing a lot of this consciously and was just a fucking bum wreck girl with no empathy, but maybe she really was a psychopath and knew what she was doing all along.
I can't even begin to explain how astonished and angry I am though. I understand I got rid of someone worthless but the fact that they hurt me this much is not something I will be able to let go of soon. Any advice on what I should do if I ever run into her at a grocery store or see her in traffic? Just ignore her? She had just moved when I ended things with her and she lives just a few miles down the street from me.