[Only One Man]

Illmatic by nasty nas seems to be the consensus on here. And I agree.

[Intl_Rasta]

(08-23-2012 01:06 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

In no particular order:

Nas - Illmatic
Public Enemy - Nation of a Million
Wu-Tang - 36 Chambers
Dr. Dre - Chronic
NWA - Straight Outta Compton


...ask me tomorrow and the list may change because you still have: Mobb Deep - Infamous, Gangstarr - Step Into The Arena, Raekwon - Bulit for Cuban Lynx

Very Good list

[Justice Beaver]

you guys chose awesome albums, especially shout outs for NWA, Tupac & old school DMX

but is there no love for Bone Thugs-N-Harmony? These albums were revolutionary in my opinion.




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[Enigma]

It Was Written > Illmatic.

I appreciate the rawness of his debut but his sophomore effort was on a whole other level lyrically.

[JayMillz]

Basically the state of hip hop in NYC now ... sad

[Teedub]

People dissing XXL for his Kanye inclusion are missing his point. He isn't saying Kanye is the best rapper of all time or anything like that. Like me, it seems he prefers rap slightly more for the music than for the lyrics. If so, then you have to put Kanye up there. He's experimental, isn't afraid of stretching the limits sonically -Dark twisted fantasy is a brilliant piece of work, for the All of the Lights prelude alone.

Personally, my favourite rap album is probably Doggystyle. One of my favorite beats of all time is the 'What's my Name' beat. It's funky as hell and ridiculously catchy.

However, and I don't care if you think it's corny or whatever, but the Eminem Show was a great album. No song was weak and Eminem's flow around 2002-2003 was impeccable.

[liveandlearn7]

Big L - Lifestylez ov Da Poor & Dangerous (incredible lyrics, old school east coast beats)
OC - Jewelz (completely unskippable album, many different topics, superb lyrics and immaculate beats)
Bone Thugs N Harmony - East 1999 (created their own style of rap through this album...classic)
Big Pun - Capital Punishment (one of the best story tellers of all time and also has many dope beats and classic tracks)
Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes... (first rap album I ever bought, busta rhymes at his finest)
Nas - Illmatic (certified classic)
DMX - It's Dark and Hell is Hot (crazy beats, very dark album)
Smif N Wessun - Dah Shinin' (underground classic)
Capone-N-Noreaga - The War Report (incredible beats)
Kool G Rap - 4,5,6 (not the greatest album but Kool G Rap is the greatest story teller rapper and this shit has some bangers)
Natural Elements - (never released an official album as Tommy Boy shelved them, but their music still lives on through Youtube, torrent sites etc..., released a compilation album a few years back that's still pretty tough)

[Quintus Curtius]

My votes for the best rap albums are below. I know I'm dating myself here, but what can I say...I like the old school. The golden age was mid 80s to early 90s.
In no particular order, I vote for these below:

Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Ice T, Rhyme Pays
EPMD, Unfinished Business
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Poor Righteous Teachers, Holy Intellect

Honorable Mention Roll Call:

NWA
Eric B & Rakim
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

[luggage]

(09-12-2013 11:36 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My votes for the best rap albums are below. I know I'm dating myself here, but what can I say...I like the old school. The golden age was mid 80s to early 90s.
In no particular order, I vote for these below:

Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Ice T, Rhyme Pays
EPMD, Unfinished Business
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Poor Righteous Teachers, Holy Intellect

Honorable Mention Roll Call:

NWA
Eric B & Rakim
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

Rakim the G.O.A.T.

I always thought rappers/hip hop artists from back then always talked about worthy shit.

[Quintus Curtius]

(09-12-2013 12:07 PM)luggage Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 11:36 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My votes for the best rap albums are below. I know I'm dating myself here, but what can I say...I like the old school. The golden age was mid 80s to early 90s.
In no particular order, I vote for these below:

Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Ice T, Rhyme Pays
EPMD, Unfinished Business
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Poor Righteous Teachers, Holy Intellect

Honorable Mention Roll Call:

NWA
Eric B & Rakim
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

Rakim the G.O.A.T.

I always thought rappers/hip hop artists from back then always talked about worthy shit.

____________________________

Yeah, I think the verbal skills were more developed. I mean, when you listen to Poor Righteous Teachers today, in a song like "Rock Dis Funky Joint", the verbal agility is just amazing. Amazing. Who can do that now? Go re-listen to that stuff, man. Will blow you away.
Things then were also a lot more positive, too. Yeah, you had the old school gangster stuff (Ghetto Boys, Schooly D, NWA, etc) but it was not that mainstream, and it was more creative than now.
And, I have to say it, you had some decent female acts too that could rap. What equivalents do we have today to MC Lyte, or Antoinette, or even Salt N Pepa?
Even for comedy value or sense of humor, we had Biz Markie and De La Soul. All gone now...
Hell, even 3rd Bass never got the respect they deserve. Pure New York style, but the public just wasn't ready for it.

QC

[Screwston]

Brotha lynch hung - season of da siccness

[Quintus Curtius]

What I like about the old school stuff:
EPMD: Nobody can duplicate the mush-mouthed, funky greatness of the first 2 albums, Strictly Business & Unfinished Business. Nearly every track is great.
Eric B & Rakim: Rakim has about the smoothest, silky smooth delivery of that era.
Kool G Rap & Polo: G Rap is just pure genius in "Road to the Riches". Check out that video on YouTube if you haven't seen it in 20 years.
Schooly D: Even Ice T called him the original gangsta. Check out "PSK: What does it mean?" if you want to hear some real old-school stuff.

[JayMillz]

[Kingsley Davis]

The South killed hiphop. RIP early 1970's - 1993.

[Quintus Curtius]

^^^^

Yes! Finally someone said it!!

[Screwston]

I cant put a link for UGKS "quit hating the south". pimp c was the only popular rapper who wasnt scared to tell new york to shut the fuck up. I remember new york hating on california in the 90s and snoop dogg's video with him stomping the skyline down lol. Hate is just in the east coasts blood.

[presidentcarter]

(09-19-2013 07:40 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

The South killed hiphop. RIP early 1970's - 1993.

It may not be the best or most 'intelligent' out there (my favorite album is 2001 and rapper is Ice Cube so...) but the South holds its own.

One of my favorites in college...blast this at a house party and shit got CRAZY.

[Quintus Curtius]

Willie D of the Ghetto Boys said in the track "Do It Like A G.O.":
"Everybody knows that New York is where it began, so let the ego shit end..."

But to me, it's just about preference for a certain style. You know, some guys like thin crust pizza, some like deep dish, some like whatever. I just like the east coast style: New York, Philly, etc. The tradition's there. It's in the ground, in the air, in the water.
Lots of great rappers down South and on the West Coast, but to me I just prefer the freshness and tang of the east coast...

[Kingsley Davis]

The fucking South to hiphop.

   

[presidentcarter]

Quote:

Who killed hip-hop? I've heard some say that D4L killed hip hop. I've heard others say it was Dem Franchize Boys, Lil Jon, Three-Six Mafia and even Young Jeezy. Right now we are on the verge of an East Coast/Down South feud that I am sure the media will sensationalize until we loose even more of our talented young men and women in a hail of bullets and bullsh*t. Everybody's talking about who killed hip-hop, but the last time I checked you don't investigate a homicide without a body. With Three-Six Mafia just winning an Academy Award and T.I. nominated for multiple Grammies, hip hop is looking very much alive to me. It seems the more important question on everybody's mind should be, "Who in the hell said hip hop was dead?" Before we turn this into an East Coast vs. The Dirty South beef lets remember that Smoke of Field Mob, just this past summer was quoted having said, "...hip hop is dead and D4L killed it."

I personally couldn't disagree more. Hip hop started in the streets of New York as a musical reflection of what was going on in the hood. New York is the father of hip hop and while you have to respect your elders, that doesn't mean that New York is where hip-hop ends. I moved down to Atlanta last summer and when I first heard "Laffy Taffy" on the radio, I thought, "What the hell is this BS doing on the air?" Two days latter I hear it again in the club and the whole place goes wild. People were leaning, rocking, snapping, and walking it out, and to be honest.... after five years of people standing around in the clubs mugging, I was happy to see people dancing and having a good time. It was at that moment I realized that "Laffy Taffy" was the epitome of hip-hop. No different than Rakim's "Paid in Full" or Grandmaster Flash's "The Message", "Laffy taffy" is a reflection of the streets. And for those of you who don't think its right for me to compare D4L to Eric B & Rakim I say its no better than you trying to compare The Bronx circa 1985 to Bankhead in the summer of 2006.

If the world changes, why can't hip hop. How can anyone say D4L killed hip hop when they are just putting out songs that reflect their culture? The fact is the streets made "Laffy Taffy" hot, not a million dollar promotional budget. "Trap or Die" made Young Jezzy, not Def Jam. Cash Money was independent and getting paper well before Universal Records came along. Master P made more in a calendar year off music than most of these so called record moguls are worth (net), with the inclusion of clothing lines, liquor, movies, fragrances, and additional streams of income.

Real talk, The south is what's hot right now. From Houston to Atlanta, from Memphis to Miami new sounds are being developed that are fueling the next generation of rap. With all do respect to Nas (who is one of my all-time personal favorite rappers) and people who share his viewpoint, how can you say hip-hop is dead just because it's not what you want it to be. Like I said New York is the father of hip hop but just like every child Hip Hop has to find its own way in the world. You can only guide a child for so long before it finds its own identity. Maybe you don't like the crowd he's hanging around now, but it's his life and you got to let him live. You can't say Hip hop is dead just because you chose to disown it.

http://www.makinitmag.com/articles/music...p-hop.html

[presidentcarter]

Quote:

Who killed hip-hop? I've heard some say that D4L killed hip hop. I've heard others say it was Dem Franchize Boys, Lil Jon, Three-Six Mafia and even Young Jeezy. Right now we are on the verge of an East Coast/Down South feud that I am sure the media will sensationalize until we loose even more of our talented young men and women in a hail of bullets and bullsh*t. Everybody's talking about who killed hip-hop, but the last time I checked you don't investigate a homicide without a body. With Three-Six Mafia just winning an Academy Award and T.I. nominated for multiple Grammies, hip hop is looking very much alive to me. It seems the more important question on everybody's mind should be, "Who in the hell said hip hop was dead?" Before we turn this into an East Coast vs. The Dirty South beef lets remember that Smoke of Field Mob, just this past summer was quoted having said, "...hip hop is dead and D4L killed it."

I personally couldn't disagree more. Hip hop started in the streets of New York as a musical reflection of what was going on in the hood. New York is the father of hip hop and while you have to respect your elders, that doesn't mean that New York is where hip-hop ends. I moved down to Atlanta last summer and when I first heard "Laffy Taffy" on the radio, I thought, "What the hell is this BS doing on the air?" Two days latter I hear it again in the club and the whole place goes wild. People were leaning, rocking, snapping, and walking it out, and to be honest.... after five years of people standing around in the clubs mugging, I was happy to see people dancing and having a good time. It was at that moment I realized that "Laffy Taffy" was the epitome of hip-hop. No different than Rakim's "Paid in Full" or Grandmaster Flash's "The Message", "Laffy taffy" is a reflection of the streets. And for those of you who don't think its right for me to compare D4L to Eric B & Rakim I say its no better than you trying to compare The Bronx circa 1985 to Bankhead in the summer of 2006.

If the world changes, why can't hip hop. How can anyone say D4L killed hip hop when they are just putting out songs that reflect their culture? The fact is the streets made "Laffy Taffy" hot, not a million dollar promotional budget. "Trap or Die" made Young Jezzy, not Def Jam. Cash Money was independent and getting paper well before Universal Records came along. Master P made more in a calendar year off music than most of these so called record moguls are worth (net), with the inclusion of clothing lines, liquor, movies, fragrances, and additional streams of income.

Real talk, The south is what's hot right now. From Houston to Atlanta, from Memphis to Miami new sounds are being developed that are fueling the next generation of rap. With all do respect to Nas (who is one of my all-time personal favorite rappers) and people who share his viewpoint, how can you say hip-hop is dead just because it's not what you want it to be. Like I said New York is the father of hip hop but just like every child Hip Hop has to find its own way in the world. You can only guide a child for so long before it finds its own identity. Maybe you don't like the crowd he's hanging around now, but it's his life and you got to let him live. You can't say Hip hop is dead just because you chose to disown it.

http://www.makinitmag.com/articles/music...p-hop.html

[thirty-six]

If I had to choose one...

[JayMillz]

[JayMillz]

[Kingsley Davis]

Hiphop post 93 is keeping the fine tradition of minstrel alive. Cue any rap video from the South, modern version of shucking and jiving.