[BalkanCynic]

I've always found Deb's input regarding Serbia to be accurate and mirroring my experience. I dont know why he didnt put more effort in breaking down Ukraine more.

[Marco]

The guy might exaggerated showing off in EE threads, but I am sure many does that, each of us has to take everything with a pinch of salt.
Personally I also think the Ukraine can be pussy heaven for guys which stays LT and has the proper conditions and conditions does not mean only proper game.
I can see also many other members in the past and now which puts loads of none value posts and I don't think this worth a ban.

BTW I find it much more annoying that members puts completely wrong information regarding a specific city or members that cannot keep their nerves and act like the local goon.

[el mechanico]

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Good luck Deb we'll see you on the other side(naughty nomad forum)

[el mechanico]

You guys know I was kidding right? What I read was very predictable me me me I I I out of Deb constantly. I'm surprised Roosh didn't pull the trigger a long time ago.

[zoom]

In my opinion his banning wasn't warranted. He knew a lot about eastern Europe. He gave me good advice via PM.

[alphaspiraton]

I think banning should be a 2 step process.

First warning - 30 day ban. This gives the person to explain himself, fix things up, get used to the forum sentiment, etc.

Second warning - permanent ban.

It seems like a better idea than banning someone out of the blue. Plus, you won't have members posting quotes about him, dedicating videos to him, and just wasting 2 valuable pages of data hosting from this forum. (Caveat: I did like the posts above though).

[Roosh]

Deb had two temp bans. I gave him a lot of leeway to fix the problems. He ignored it and actually increased the problem behavior.

The issue with second guessing a ban decision is that a lot of events in private may contribute to the ban, not just public posting.

[Tuthmosis]

(07-30-2012 05:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The issue with second guessing a ban decision is that a lot of events in private may contribute to the ban, not just public posting.

I have to co-sign this point. I've encountered related issues with minor trolls and newbies who I've had to put on suspension. After the notice goes out, a lot of stuff can happen that isn't part of the public discourse.

[Roosh]

Quote:

I think banning should be a 2 step process.

First warning - 30 day ban. This gives the person to explain himself, fix things up, get used to the forum sentiment, etc.

Second warning - permanent ban.

It seems like a better idea than banning someone out of the blue.

In the large forum you run, have you found your process to be effective?

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Is bragging a sin here?

When you're hijacking threads to do it, yes.

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I think people get banned a little too easily around here.

Follow the rules, don't ignore warnings when you get temp banned, and you'll be fine. If you disagree then you can form an exile forum for all the wonderful contributors who have been banned. Make IRT a moderator.

[Brian]

RIP Balkan Power

[Jalouse]

(07-30-2012 02:08 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Good luck Deb we'll see you on the other side(naughty nomad forum)

That's funny that there is an outcast forum. I just had a quick look on NN and I can see posts from Alpha Travel who was just recently banned here, I guess as long as you find somewhere for your forum fix it doesn't matter.

[Rurik]

I just checked out the naughty nomad forum. Is that ACTUALLy bigbootyluvr posting over there? That's pretty funny.

[chochemonger1]

(07-30-2012 04:56 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

I think banning should be a 2 step process.

First warning - 30 day ban. This gives the person to explain himself, fix things up, get used to the forum sentiment, etc.

Second warning - permanent ban.

It seems like a better idea than banning someone out of the blue. Plus, you won't have members posting quotes about him, dedicating videos to him, and just wasting 2 valuable pages of data hosting from this forum. (Caveat: I did like the posts above though).

Just for entertainment value, Deb will be missed. I learned nothing of value from him, for when in I go to Ukraine, but he had his moments of wisdom about Eastern Europe. Also, it would have been interesting to see how things will go for him in Brazil. I say we have a poll and let that decide whether he comes back.

[Greek kamaki]

A lot of what Deb wrote made sense to me.He just described things the balkan way that is with no details just the essentials leaving 50%of information out of description for you to imagine.I try to be more analytical.What Deb says in one sentence I would describe in a paragraph.Maybe he was just too lazy or computer programming makes you so laconic I do not know.The other members told him to explain himself but he did not.

[jimukr104]

I think he was just thinking he was being honest when he state his height and stuff .He probly thought he wasnt using game. Though i disagree with him o nsome things. For example he said every guy is short and fat in Ukraine. Wel li havent been there i n4-5 years but t obe honest i thought the ukrainians 9russians0 tended t obe on the slim side and avg to to tall i nheight . i lived and worked there so i thought that it couldnt have changed that much .He use t oput them down but the local girls are competition because if economics are = they like thier own guys better .They them selves wil lalso admit this .As for his bragging about looks , well to be honest i came t othe conclusio nthat weither girls have changed i nthe last half decade over there or western ukraine is very different. You see i am married now but i was considered to be a VERY goodlooking guy also but to be honest i nthe old days that was a hinderance . FSU fwemales tend to want to look good and get the attention and a good looking guy will distract from that .i remember being rejected because iwas to young and good looking, it made em come across like a palyer . I mentio nthis becasue i think his real reaso nfor succees was that he was fearless and approached every girl he saw and had the dominate attitude that russians tend t ohave (he claims it baltic, but i never sen a scary baltic t obe honest ,nor do eastern europeans tend to like that type) .So basically i think he was clueless to his own success. Oh and his ectomorph frame made hi mlook younger so his 35 yr old self could attract young girls.
Its sad that when members asked advice on the HOW to,methods ,etc, he tended to keep quiet , as if he didnt want compeittion. But i still think he will be missed.

[chyamor]

Deb if your going to reincarnate yourself atleast fixing your damn spelling.

[jimukr104]

lol. typing on wap phone. I am not Deb, why would i insult my own self?

[maccc]

I got good info from Deb, as far as knowing the good spots to go to in Lviv and also some stuff about Hungary and Serbia. I also got the feeling that he was being honest in his reports and that alone is a value, because the majority of success reports on here seem questionable (as with any pickup related forum).

I'm not criticizing the mods though, as Roosh pointed out there may be plenty of stuff going on behind the scenes that we're unaware of.

[Samseau]

If Deb would have just checked his ego a bit and not had to brag about Ukraine in ~95% of his posts, I'm sure he wouldn't have gotten banned.

[alphaspiraton]

(07-30-2012 07:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

I think banning should be a 2 step process.

First warning - 30 day ban. This gives the person to explain himself, fix things up, get used to the forum sentiment, etc.

Second warning - permanent ban.

It seems like a better idea than banning someone out of the blue.

In the large forum you run, have you found your process to be effective?

Quote:

Is bragging a sin here?

When you're hijacking threads to do it, yes.

Quote:

I think people get banned a little too easily around here.

Follow the rules, don't ignore warnings when you get temp banned, and you'll be fine. If you disagree then you can form an exile forum for all the wonderful contributors who have been banned. Make IRT a moderator.

Didn't mean to come out as highly critical. my bad. Just trying to offer suggestions to add value to the forum.

[brianmark]

(07-30-2012 10:42 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

I just checked out the naughty nomad forum. Is that ACTUALLy bigbootyluvr posting over there? That's pretty funny.

What did this guy do wrong to get banned?

[Kickb]

Check this out

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-36...42768.html

[worldwidetraveler]

Don't worry, Deb will always be here in spirit... if that isn't enough just read some of Lotharius' posts. haha

(08-05-2012 01:45 PM)lotharius Wrote:  

(08-05-2012 11:30 AM)lotharius Wrote:  

Yes well there is no paradise for all, not even the Philippines/Thailand

Also the only girls that don't like foreigners are the brainwashed nationalist peasants. What's not to like about a foreigner? He often has more cash/options and does not look like an FSU monkey

[michelin]

He got banned. Big deal? I honestly don't see the point of wasting our time discussing banned members... Let's move on, guys.

[Deluge]

I think others have made this point before, but this forum has a lot more "abnormal" people and anti-social personality traits then the general population, even other forums.