[Vicious]

With all due respect to Roosh this is one man's experience and not any absolutes (though it can probably be argued that Roosh''s experience is worth more than the regular Joe's).

Still there's no denying that there are a lot of hypes out there that need to be busted I've tried putting the story straight on Swe since I got on the forum but peeps would rather believe the fantasy.

I think that the overall issue is that time and globalization has made a lot of destinations age badly. THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER GENTLEMEN. It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

[pitt]

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

If you like black or mixed chicks, DR is the place. Lots of hot and easy women. They are easy for everybody but if you got your shit together for tough cities, you will feel like a god in DR.

[XXL]

(07-27-2012 04:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:07 PM)XXL Wrote:  

FORUM HYPE: Poland as SNLs land

REALITY: fuck no. even though it happens here and there no doubt if you screen well, poles are still way too conservative for SNL or classic fuckbuddy/no strings attached relationships. also, social circle game is the most popular way of getting girls, most people i know met each other through social circles/mutual friends/referrals.

While I've been very careful to put up disclaimers about how fast it takes to get laid in Poland, what is it with Polish guys and their complete inability to understand that their women put out much faster for foreigners who don't meet them via social circle? Just because YOU can't get a SNL doesn't mean others can. You're game denialism is rearing its head again.

This is why my myth busting relies on triangulation... not just my experiences but many other guys I correspond with, often in private. I'm not going to trash a place just based on my experience alone.

misunderstanding. i described how vast majority of polish people hook up and what to expect in general from the country. other polish guys will tell you the same thing. nobody can tell me it's SNL every night here. posts of guys having troubles of breaking through or running out of time to sleep with polish girls only highlight that.

as for my alleged game denialism.. that's interesting haha cause i understand pickup too thoroughly to even write about it in details the way how i'd like to. i actually oversimplify my posts to make them easier to understand for those who don't get basic principles of social dynamics (most only scratch the surface of pickup, sorry but it's true).

finally, how me or you or other players get girls in poland is pretty bad example of overall standard. of course we do pretty well, how can we not? however, when a regular guy wants to come to poland to have a couple of epic snls cause he read that kamaki picked up a girl (by buying her) and was offered her sister in the same week, then he might be very dissapointed. just saying.

there is substancial difference between fantasy (skilled native guy here) and reality (foreigner with ok game staying for a week trying to get some with pure game). it's so obvious, i'm very surprised you interpreted it like you did.

[Sourcecode]

Ill vouch that norwegian chickss. oslo and bergen looked much better than swedish chicks.
but the 30 minute cross from sweden to denmark...the quality drops to the lowest

[Spartan]

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

With all due respect to Roosh this is one man's experience and not any absolutes (though it can probably be argued that Roosh''s experience is worth more than the regular Joe's).

Still there's no denying that there are a lot of hypes out there that need to be busted I've tried putting the story straight on Swe since I got on the forum but peeps would rather believe the fantasy.

I think that the overall issue is that time and globalization has made a lot of destinations age badly. THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER GENTLEMEN. It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

Yup, I've learned this sad truth.

On the plus side, no need to fear our destinations getting spoiled....they are already no longer any paradises waiting for discovery

[Greek kamaki]

Everyone emphasizes his strong points.In case of Italian guys it is style and fashion in case of Balkan guys muscles, in case of English humour, in case of Americans money.The problem starts when this conscientious effort starts to block you for example when you look like shit compared to Italians,totally weak compared to Balkans and peniless compared to Americans.The block is what counts the rest is irrelevant.In case of Poland there is no serious block.The same in Ukraine.

[Aliblahba]

(07-27-2012 06:01 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

With all due respect to Roosh this is one man's experience and not any absolutes (though it can probably be argued that Roosh''s experience is worth more than the regular Joe's).

Still there's no denying that there are a lot of hypes out there that need to be busted I've tried putting the story straight on Swe since I got on the forum but peeps would rather believe the fantasy.

I think that the overall issue is that time and globalization has made a lot of destinations age badly. THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER GENTLEMEN. It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

Yup, I've learned this sad truth.

On the plus side, no need to fear our destinations getting spoiled....they are already no longer any paradises waiting for discovery

   

[speakeasy]

Brazil should be on the list. No place is more over-hyped in my opinion on the ease of sex from non-working girls. Every guy that's never been to Brazil thinks you can just show up and hot samba queens will just approach any gringo sitting on the beach. Language barrier a non-issue of course. Yes, there many guys that actually believe this.

[chochemonger1]

(07-27-2012 03:51 PM)TexasMade Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 03:39 PM)houston Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 03:21 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Myth 101: Filipino girls are mostly ugly, short, unbangable and by far the ugliest in SE Asia. UNTRUE.

Same for Mexican girls. They don't even all look the same so why do people on here say they're ugly?

GDL and Monterrey has some of the most beautiful women I have laid eyes on. Although my only other international experience is Germany. The Mexicans who come to America are mostly of the poor/working class. They also tend have more Native blood. The bad bitches are those of European blood. Some in the South also have some African blood mixed in. Until you go to Mexico, you dont really have a clue how gorgeous Mexican women can be.

The only difference is that hot mexican girls (fresas) are hard to bang. Similar to Argentina, but the obesity level of the average mexican girl is on par with american girls. So, it is not a country I would recommend for a poon hound.

[Roosh]

To give the forum credit, it's been very balanced on a lot of places. There has been almost no hype for Colombia, Argentina, and popular destinations in Western Europe.

[chochemonger1]

(07-27-2012 04:53 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

If you like black or mixed chicks, DR is the place. Lots of hot and easy women. They are easy for everybody but if you got your shit together for tough cities, you will feel like a god in DR.

It seems like there is enough evidence now, to say that the DR is the best pussy hunting ground in the Americas. Being here in Colombia now, it seems like it is deteriorating with chubiness and attitude from the young skinny ones. Though I am curious what is the obesity rate in the DR because there is no doubt Colombia has prettier girls.

[Aliblahba]

(07-27-2012 10:21 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:53 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

If you like black or mixed chicks, DR is the place. Lots of hot and easy women. They are easy for everybody but if you got your shit together for tough cities, you will feel like a god in DR.

It seems like there is enough evidence now, to say that the DR is the best pussy hunting ground in the Americas. Being here in Colombia now, it seems like it is deteriorating with chubiness and attitude from the young skinny ones. Though I am curious what is the obesity rate in the DR because there is no doubt Colombia has prettier girls.

http://www.ifs.du.edu/ifs/frm_CountryPro...Country=DO

It's around 32% according to this study. It was in the paper when I first got here. I'm actually having a problem with keeping a little thickness in the diet. Keep hooking up with thin one's. Dammit.

I notice more obese girls in the barrio's than in the more affluent areas. I'd also say that El Salvador is better than here, but need more time down there to compare.

[chochemonger1]

(07-27-2012 10:40 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 10:21 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:53 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:21 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

It's not a world out there with any hidden gems any more.

If you like black or mixed chicks, DR is the place. Lots of hot and easy women. They are easy for everybody but if you got your shit together for tough cities, you will feel like a god in DR.

It seems like there is enough evidence now, to say that the DR is the best pussy hunting ground in the Americas. Being here in Colombia now, it seems like it is deteriorating with chubiness and attitude from the young skinny ones. Though I am curious what is the obesity rate in the DR because there is no doubt Colombia has prettier girls.

http://www.ifs.du.edu/ifs/frm_CountryPro...Country=DO

It's around 32% according to this study. It was in the paper when I first got here. I'm actually having a problem with keeping a little thickness in the diet. Keep hooking up with thin one's. Dammit.

I notice more obese girls in the barrio's than in the more affluent areas. I'd also say that El Salvador is better than here, but need more time down there to compare.

Yes, Ali it is a sad thing when pussy paradises start detereorating because of westernization and chubiness. Bucaramanga, Colombia 10 years ago would have been a paradise, but not anymore. Mixx was right that the last bastions left in Colombia, are the pueblos near to medellin..... manizales and pereira. The 32 percent obesity rate in the Dr is very high, but since one has so many young women to choose from there, like the Philippines, it is not that big of a problem yet.

[Aliblahba]

I just though of something choche. I get hit on more by the thin girls. Remember the Claro models? That's the desired body style. The local dudes like thick. Maybe the flaca chicas are hitting me up b/c they are "undesirable". Hmmm.

Either way I'll take it.

[velkrum]

houston Wrote:

(07-26-2012 12:32 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

Southern women are into taller guys usually around 6'0 and up

But for real, shit like this quote needs to be called out.

go ahead and call it out. It is based on an observation backed by years of experience.
Of course it is not an absolute truth, only a fool would think generalizations are.

[Wizard]

The problem with generalizations is while they can contain a kernel of truth, it also maybe not applicable to someone based on their own personal circumstances. While I do appreciate the in-depth on the ground information offered here by members of the community. There has never been a place I've written off completely simply do to somebody's bad experience there. At best I try to use the information to think about what I can do to refine my own tactics, and what I should be on the watch for. This is just my personal opinion, I know there are a lot of different schools of thought when it comes to seduction.

[Cookie]

There are still a lot of under-traveled/obscure places left on the map (Faroe Islands, a lot of Oceania, parts of Africa). I wonder if someday we'll have to resort to locations like this. It would make some sense considering that most guys are already having to shift to tier 2 & 3 cities in countries already off "the beaten path."

[Screwston]

(07-27-2012 11:09 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

houston Wrote:

(07-26-2012 12:32 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

Southern women are into taller guys usually around 6'0 and up

But for real, shit like this quote needs to be called out.

go ahead and call it out. It is based on an observation backed by years of experience.
Of course it is not an absolute truth, only a fool would think generalizations are.

Roosh already called you out in the workout thread for being a height troll.

[dontuan]

(07-27-2012 04:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:07 PM)XXL Wrote:  

FORUM HYPE: Poland as SNLs land

REALITY: fuck no. even though it happens here and there no doubt if you screen well, poles are still way too conservative for SNL or classic fuckbuddy/no strings attached relationships. also, social circle game is the most popular way of getting girls, most people i know met each other through social circles/mutual friends/referrals.

While I've been very careful to put up disclaimers about how fast it takes to get laid in Poland, what is it with Polish guys and their complete inability to understand that their women put out much faster for foreigners who don't meet them via social circle? Just because YOU can't get a SNL doesn't mean others can. You're game denialism is rearing its head again.

This is why my myth busting relies on triangulation... not just my experiences but many other guys I correspond with, often in private. I'm not going to trash a place just based on my experience alone.

I have to second that. I recently had an SNL in Poland so it does happen, Just don't expect for them to make it make it easy for you. There's always obstacles, like clock-blocking, some resistance, her friends, logistics. If you get past these hurdles, it can happen.

I disagree about social circle in Poland. When I go to a club, by the end of the night, most of the girls end up hooking up with someone new. I know because I observe the scene from beginning to end, seeing the guys do approaches and some succeeding and other failing.

[XXL]

(07-28-2012 01:26 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

I disagree about social circle in Poland. When I go to a club, by the end of the night, most of the girls end up hooking up with someone new. I know because I observe the scene from beginning to end, seeing the guys do approaches and some succeeding and other failing.

yes i can see you don't see it cause most of social circle lays happen outside of nightlife/clubbing. as the name speaks for itself, it's social circle, you don't need to go out and approach, you're introduced by someone you already know (who you could meet in daytime/school/work/dance class/whatever) to his/her friends in cinema or dinner etc and game starts there. nightlife cold approach sex is a small percentage of what's going on. kind of like with job market, ads/CVs (cold approach) represent roughly 20% of all vacancies, the rest 80% of hiring is done via referrals/word of mouth/acquaintances/etc.

and it's not even poles exclusively. i met french chick here, she invited me to house/dorm party with her 10-15 erasmus friends and the dance began there. then we met other 2 girls' other friends and then it really was the bomb party. no clubbing involved. and that's what happens here ALL THE TIME. so what i mean is that even thought SNL take place (i said that in my first response so there's nothing to disagree with me), social circle is the name of the game in poland therefore girls usually (it means not always) take it slow and date.

i like what Vicious said, never take one guy's advice as an absolute. it's just one reference to take into consideration. there are many factors that determine the type of sex you have, such as styleof game etc so let's keep that in mind.

[WanderingSoul]

You have to take it all with a grain of salt. I would say RVF has a way better group of posters than most PUA forums, but there are also quite a few weirdos/socially awkward motherfuckers on here. Someone may go to a country and say the place sucks and its hard to get laid, but that person might also be this guy:

[Spike]

(07-28-2012 03:51 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

You have to take it all with a grain of salt. I would say RVF has a way better group of posters than most PUA forums, but there are also quite a few weirdos/socially awkward motherfuckers on here. Someone may go to a country and say the place sucks and its hard to get laid, but that person might also be this guy:

You are so right about some of the weirdo's here. I also hate when people act like fanboys of some of the other posters.
I remember that one poster said that he kicked a girl out of his house buttnaked just because she didn't want to fuck. I called him a rude asshole and I was suddenly called a white knight by multiple posters.
Like kicking out a girl out of your house buttnaked is a normal thing to do. To me that's fucking weird and totally unacceptable. If i had a daughter who was treated that way, this guys face would look like Rocky in the end of the second movie. For real.

[Spike]

(07-27-2012 12:27 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Myth: being white and having a functioning penis gets you laid in Thailand for free.

Myth: Malaysian girls are an exotic blend of Malay, Chinese, and Indian. Nomad says he loves Malaysia and KL specifically, but what an unattractive lot of women with an aversion to talking to anyone outside of their social circle.

Yes, I hate this myth also. Guys saying that even a blind,disabled ugly,fat guy can get laid in South East Asia for FREE are totally bullshitting. Those people only get laid for MONEY over there.
Even though it's fairly easy to get laid, you still have to work for it.
We all had our quick lays but that doesn't mean all girls are easy. I remember having a lay in Argentina through CS within 45 minutes but I also remember the relentless struggling I endured in Argentina. Same thing in Brazil.

Some thing goes for hostel lays. I had quite a few of them but then again I have been to tons of hostels. For every guy that is getting laid a lot in a hostel there are 15 guys who are NOT getting a lot in hostels or have an occasional drunken bang.
i have only seen a few guys that were getting lots of attention from girls in hostels. Those were the type of guys who were naturals anyway.
Most banging in hostels is done by traveling couples.

[Divorco]

(07-27-2012 04:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:07 PM)XXL Wrote:  

FORUM HYPE: Poland as SNLs land

While I've been very careful to put up disclaimers ... Just because YOU can't get a SNL doesn't mean others can.

I'm confused because I thought Roosh wrote that Polish seduction usually takes multiple dates.

[XXL]

(07-28-2012 09:29 AM)Divorco Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 04:07 PM)XXL Wrote:  

FORUM HYPE: Poland as SNLs land

While I've been very careful to put up disclaimers ... Just because YOU can't get a SNL doesn't mean others can.

I'm confused because I thought Roosh wrote that Polish seduction usually takes multiple dates.

everything is possible if you know what you're going for. you can get snls quite consistently if you SCREEN HARD for sex. it means that sex (with any kind of girl) is the only thing matters to you. so for example when a hottie tells you she's sober cause she the driver that night then you just walk away. time management. be prepare to lose hot girls due to difficult/impossible logistics. but if you really want SNL you make no exceptions. so you screen, you find that 'green light' girl and only then can think of handling logistics. that's what these players do when they say they get snls in poland whenever they want.

SNLs MANUAL:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14447-...#pid239098