[speakeasy]

(07-18-2012 02:34 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Packin some azz as well.

No doubt in my mind that Luciana is enjoying the attention she's getting in this thread. Notice she hasn't taken the photos down. A young, cute Carioca with tattoos and a nice booty is no prude. She's showing that body off for a reason. It's a bunch of phoney outrage. Under the surface she loves knowing that all these men want her and find her desirable.

[Screwston]

(07-18-2012 02:34 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Packin some azz as well.

Juicy. I bet that's the face she makes when she's getting dicked down from a Couchsurfer.

[ManAbout]

   

Seriously. Is this the kind of photo you put up if you are not looking for cock? Look at the way she has her ass perched on that rock in tight shorts, making a duck face. The faux outrage is only so that she doesn't look like a slut. The reason she has that whole profile up is so that she can meet and bang foreign travelers. End of story.

[Screwston]

(07-17-2012 06:59 AM)houston Wrote:  

(07-17-2012 05:43 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

Apparently, the Brazilian dude who started this shit storm on CS found us via a Facebook discussion on the CS Rotterdam Facebook page last week. Some comments from that thread on Facebook:

The usual BS:

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that's sad, but i think they have to live their life thinking about fornication all the time, it's an antidode of their ultra-high-vucuum..they are insicure (poor'em) and probabily not so cool to stay so much time with someone talking about interesting things..bad with bad ones..

Some useful information:

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Amsterdam CS meeting is full of pickup guys (because there are new girls everytime and almost no regular members)

Damsel in distress:

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I've never surfed with a guy who lives alone... for these reasons. It's too bad, but if I'm traveling by myself, I can't afford to take those kinds of chances. I think it's great that some girls feel comfortable doing it... but I don't. Of course I want to be able to trust everyone, but I refuse to be naive. A friend of mine just had her first CS experiences this summer in France and Italy. 2 of her hosts put moves on her. I was appalled. I tried to tell her that CS isn't like that...but nothing I can say will change her firsthand experience. She prefers hostels now. I know some of you are thinking "well, she surfed with French and Italian guys...what does she expect?"...but that's complete crap.

This is the guy who started that thread on Facebook and all of this bullshit. Apparently, he works for Couchsurfing.

Erwin

Some quotes from that discussion.

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ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh creepers

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that's sad, but i think they have to live their life thinking about fornication all the time, it's an antidode of their ultra-high-vucuum..they are insicure (poor'em) and probabily not so cool to stay so much time with someone talking about interesting things..bad with bad ones..

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I actually met a "pick up artist" like this guy when we went to an Amsterdam CS meeting last October.
Couldn't fool me.

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That is why more and more girls only ask a girl for a couch and no guys anymore. Understandable with creeps like this.

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I've never surfed with a guy who lives alone... for these reasons. It's too bad, but if I'm traveling by myself, I can't afford to take those kinds of chances. I think it's great that some girls feel comfortable doing it... but I don't. Of course I want to be able to trust everyone, but I refuse to be naive.
A friend of mine just had her first CS experiences this summer in France and Italy. 2 of her hosts put moves on her. I was appalled. I tried to tell her that CS isn't like that...but nothing I can say will change her firsthand experience. She prefers hostels now. I know some of you are thinking "well, she surfed with French and Italian guys...what does she expect?"...but that's complete crap.

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Sick bastards! How sad to use CS to do things like this...

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Just had a female cs from mexico for 2 days. I was actually kinda suprised she wanted to stay at my place. Especially because it was het 1st cs experience ever. Lucky for her I am not one of those freaks After showing the city with Joeri Schinkel, she is really enthusiastic about CS now.

[speakeasy]

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[Icarus]

But... that is ART!!! In fact, there is a famous photographer dude on CS who requests that his guests (male and female) pose for him naked. He has photos of his naked guests on his CS profile. It's quite strange.

[Caligula]

(07-18-2012 06:09 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

But... that is ART!!! In fact, there is a famous photographer dude on CS who requests that his guests (male and female) pose for him naked. He has photos of his naked guests on his CS profile. It's quite strange.

Link?

[Aliblahba]

I think we should stay at these dudes houses and fuck all their female friends. White knights always have plenty of hamsters coming around. Then when walking out the door, say, "Dude, you've been Rooshed!"

[Icarus]

(07-18-2012 06:54 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(07-18-2012 06:09 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

But... that is ART!!! In fact, there is a famous photographer dude on CS who requests that his guests (male and female) pose for him naked. He has photos of his naked guests on his CS profile. It's quite strange.

Link?

The link is in one of the RVF threads on CS, I believe. Did a bit of googling, but had no success in finding it. I do recall that the photos were generally tasteful, black & white, very professional-looking. I do not think I would be comfortable posing naked just to have a place to sleep, though...

[Trombone]

(07-18-2012 07:13 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

The link is in one of the RVF threads on CS, I believe. Did a bit of googling, but had no success in finding it. I do recall that the photos were generally tasteful, black & white, very professional-looking. I do not think I would be comfortable posing naked just to have a place to sleep, though...

Here you go:
Original thread (Post #75): http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3324-page-3.html
CS Profile: http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/berlinmode/

[Aliblahba]

I've got a fat reputation on couchsurfing. Just might start hosting. Been looking for an apartment with 2 bedrooms anyway. I'll call the room "spiderweb". I wonder how many of these ho's will drop panties when I cook a gourmet meal and drop a bottle of champagne? Broke ass couchsurfing bishes!!!!!

[Icarus]

The women (and most men, too) on those CS threads are all accusing us of being horrible, filthy, "manipulative" people. They say there's no need to concoct such convoluted schemes in order to meet (and bed) women. They say we should be upfront about our intentions.

In July 2011 there was a hilarious thread on the CS Los Angeles group. Here's what a Chinese chick posted:

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I just arrived yesterday, and watched the fireworks with my host, He seemed nice. Right before I went to sleep, he got up and asked: "Do you want a fuck?" Then he said sth else and laughed. I didn't hear that clearly and thought he was only kidding. Besides, he mentioned he had a girlfriend. So I asked him half-jokingly: "What if I said yes?" He said:"Then I'll start by kissing you..." Then I realised he meant it and was speechless:"That was a serious question? I thought you were only joking!" "No," he said, "I've been having this on my mind." I said no twice and he still asked "You sure?"

So I wanna know from other single woman travellers if this happens to you often? Cus it's not my first time to encounter sth like this, although he's the most direct one. I don't really think this is the point of couchsurfing, nor understand why some guys have to do it. And after that I just can't help feeling hostility to my host who doesn't respect me at all and just saw this as a chance of getting laid. And I have live stay with him for another 3 days, which is really annoying and I don't know whether I should be friendly to him or not.

This host was a total amateur. I do hope he finds RVF.

[Spike]

(07-18-2012 09:29 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

The women (and most men, too) on those CS threads are all accusing us of being horrible, filthy, "manipulative" people. They say there's no need to concoct such convoluted schemes in order to meet (and bed) women. They say we should be upfront about our intentions.

In July 2011 there was a hilarious thread on the CS Los Angeles group. Here's what a Chinese chick posted:

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I just arrived yesterday, and watched the fireworks with my host, He seemed nice. Right before I went to sleep, he got up and asked: "Do you want a fuck?" Then he said sth else and laughed. I didn't hear that clearly and thought he was only kidding. Besides, he mentioned he had a girlfriend. So I asked him half-jokingly: "What if I said yes?" He said:"Then I'll start by kissing you..." Then I realised he meant it and was speechless:"That was a serious question? I thought you were only joking!" "No," he said, "I've been having this on my mind." I said no twice and he still asked "You sure?"

So I wanna know from other single woman travellers if this happens to you often? Cus it's not my first time to encounter sth like this, although he's the most direct one. I don't really think this is the point of couchsurfing, nor understand why some guys have to do it. And after that I just can't help feeling hostility to my host who doesn't respect me at all and just saw this as a chance of getting laid. And I have live stay with him for another 3 days, which is really annoying and I don't know whether I should be friendly to him or not.

This host was a total amateur. I do hope he finds RVF.

It's amateurs like this that give us, the sweet talking hansom seducers, a bad name

One of my travel buddies is even sneakier. He puts up a picture of 'the bedroom" on CS but it is in fact his own bed and he has a studio. Girls who surf at his place think he has a spare bedroom when they see the picture but at arrival they have to sleep in his bed with him. Not my style but he managed to bang a few girls this way.

[fman]

I am in Berlin and this just popped up this morning - http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.h...t=12635858

Funny thing is most don't even care and see it as a "normal" thing between consensual adults.

[Icarus]

(07-19-2012 05:45 AM)fman Wrote:  

Funny thing is most don't even care and see it as a "normal" thing between consensual adults.

Such a stark contrast with the reactions from Brazilian and feminist CS'ers. Some comments:

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those "strategies" are as old as humanity, just a bit of Web 2.0 layer.

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Darn, I already forgot that Sex is a bad thing. Thanks for the reminder, mate

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as long as it's consensual, where's the big deal?

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Thanks, but I get enough sex as it is. CS or not!

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Haha, thanks for posting. I had a good laugh on the this forum.

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Reaaaaally, this game (lame strategies to get laid) is as old as peeing... They have always existed and will always do, so what's the deal?

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as it seems now, CS Berlin is quite more "open minded" (in the non CS-profile fake way) than CS Brazil. That's not a bad thing.

They make the Brazilian CS'ers look like a bunch of Victorian prudes.

[Icarus]

The Brazilian dude who started the thread on the Berlin group, also started a thread on the Paris group and yet another thread on the Prague group. So far, no replies.

[Roosh]

The Brazilians are just spamming. Great response in the Berlin thread:

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Excuse me, mister, but what is your point? As long as it's not "how to rape in CS" there is not really any problem (except some little amount of "requests with sexual intentions" and so maybe (!) some waste of time for hosts who are totally not open for these kind of experience, but what else are all these tons of one-sentence-I-just-need-a-bed requests for hosts who want to find "true friendship" here?).

So calm down, stop the "how to behave in CS" preaching and stop making a lot of hosts feel insecure, as you can't tell a difference between "honest CS requests" and the "CS requests plus" anyway (besides there is nothing scandalous about it)!

(I guess this could become another epic thread. And this just one week after the massage one, amazing!) =)

p.s.: I have to apologize to the CS Berlin community for some misjudging: I wrote this (and a lot more that was already told since then) tonight when CS suddenly went down, expecting a "CS is not a dating site"-shitstorm over my head, but as it seems now, CS Berlin is quite more "open minded" (in the non CS-profile fake way) than CS Brazil. That's not a bad thing.

[Sourcecode]

Lol..I wanna post on the berlin CS group.
"Way to be a snitch Andriano"

But Ive done more than just surfed a couple girls couches...can't let myself be outed so easily
Smart move is to just not get involved and laugh.

Its pretty funny people are really throwing their hands up mad about this.
Maybe Andriano is just White Knighting in hopes of getting some poupanca for himself.


This reminds me of when I got kicked off an au pair forum for trying to meet people.
My au pair friends say all the girls talk about being stuck in the house and wanna go out drink and get laid.
But when I called them out one it..the pack leader claimed the forum was about solving problems...when 80 percent of the post were about meeting chicks...and after id already hooked up with 3 other au pairs..

Ugly chicks have a job to hate.

Lucky for you Roosh...bad publicity is still publicity

[Icarus]

From the independent women's thread, here's the latest:

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using a website for free travel that's based on trust to pull women is a sneaky way to catch people with their guard down. It might work, but I think it also undermines the trust that the site relies on to allow people to travel for free in people's personal homes. Not a fan of that behavior at all. On the plus side, in their thread all of those men strongly recommended not actually surfing their female targets' couches. So for me it's undermining the trust of someone who asks me for travel tips on CS more than someone who wants to couchsurf. THAT would be a really sucky violation imo, inviting someone into your home and then that person hitting on you.

This chick gets it. Trying to hook up with a female CS host is just tremendously stupid. Hooking up should be left to CS meetings, and though the odds are good, the goods are generally odd.

[Sourcecode]

"Independent" women can be some of the dumbest,smart bitches around.

Its good to see other chicks telling the dumber ones to shut up and get with reality

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Sure, the guys in that forum aren't nice guys but unless they're raping these women, I don't see what the problem is. These are consenting adults and it's none of our business what they do in their bedrooms
-ana

Then we get this DB

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Wow. This roosh guy and his followers make me want to vomit. Is it a situation where flooding his forum and email inbox would maybe make an impact? Does he need an "Ebeneezer Scrooge experience" to make him realize objectifying women degrades himself and those around him?

I'm sex positive, and believe in "male-ism" as much as feminism... but I feel gross and violated just reading those types of comments. I think anybody who believes, or talks about anyone, especially women, primarily as "good to stick my dick into" should be banned and put on sex offender watch.

Man...we're all sex offenders

Im actually gonna head to the police station now an term myself in.


I wonder if there's a forum out there were lesbians are swapping tips on how to munch the carpets of women that only want to host women.

[Spike]

(07-19-2012 09:05 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

From the independent women's thread, here's the latest:

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using a website for free travel that's based on trust to pull women is a sneaky way to catch people with their guard down. It might work, but I think it also undermines the trust that the site relies on to allow people to travel for free in people's personal homes. Not a fan of that behavior at all. On the plus side, in their thread all of those men strongly recommended not actually surfing their female targets' couches. So for me it's undermining the trust of someone who asks me for travel tips on CS more than someone who wants to couchsurf. THAT would be a really sucky violation imo, inviting someone into your home and then that person hitting on you.

This chick gets it. Trying to hook up with a female CS host is just tremendously stupid. Hooking up should be left to CS meetings, and though the odds are good, the goods are generally odd.

Trying to hook up with a CS girl at her house while sleeping there sounds rather stupid. Of course people have done it and succeeded but I would never do this.

I just send them emails with a cool story and ask to have a coffee with me. The amount of reactions I sometimes got was overwhelming and in a few cities I couldn't even cope with all the replies.

Personally I think this is the best way to meet local girls who speak English and aren't gold diggers like on regular most regular dating sites.

I think it would be damn awkward hitting on a girl and getting rejected by her and still having to stay at her house for the night. I would never risk the possible embarresment and awkwardness.

[Icarus]

From the BH thread:

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Acho que tanto aqui como lá passaram dos limites. Não precisava postar as fotos dos caras aqui. Eles responderam da mesma maneira. Colocaram fotos de garotas do Rio e até foto da Clarisse.

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I think that both here [CS] and there [RVF] people went way too far. There was no need to post the guys' photos here. They responded by posting photos of girls from Rio and even Clarisse.

I agree. For your information, the post with the photo of Clarisse and Luciana (from Rio) has been removed. I repeat: O post com a foto da Clarisse foi removido.

[MMA]

(07-19-2012 06:00 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

The Brazilian dude who started the thread on the Berlin group, also started a thread on the Paris group and yet another thread on the Prague group. So far, no replies.

What an awesome unpaid advertisement for RVF. Here's comes awesome new datasheets from Berlin, Paris and Prague

[Roosh]

Looks like we're going viral in CS. Should get some more varied members because of it when August 1 comes around.

How are you guys able to find all these group posts? There doesn't seem to be a search engine for the groups.

[Icarus]

(07-19-2012 10:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

How are you guys able to find all these group posts? There doesn't seem to be a search engine for the groups.

In the Brazilian threads, a lot of posters would thank the OP (usually Belizia) for the information and then they would add "I will post this on the Recife / Porto Alegre / whatever group".