[Roosh]

I have not met a single Czech girl in the past 10 days here in Hvar.

[TheBulldozer]

Grab a motorbike. Drive to the other half of the island. There are beaches at jelsa and vrboska. JUst don't expect a warm welcome. There is literally no English spoken there. You'll find more of an fsu crowd.

[Greek kamaki]

Czech women must be near Makarska.Generally Czechs do not appear in the same places as English,Scandinavians,Germans.They go where other Slavs visit like Russians,Poles.(where you hear Russian you can safely suppose there are Poles and Czechs in the periphery).
In Greece you can find Czechs all along the western coast in Ionian sea on islands like Corfu,Lefkada,Zakynthos.They clearly like this type of coast(rocks) which by and large is similar to Croatian Dalmatian coast.(about 1 million Czechs used to visit Croatia every summer).

http://www.radio.cz/en/section/talking/w...er-holiday

http://www.bvv.cz/en/go-regiontour/2012/...presented/

The above article states that the total number of Czech tourists to Croatia has decreased to 700000 this year.This shows the trend of Czechs to travel to more upscale destinations like Rodos,Kos,Crete after rise of their living standards.Even the tourists who visit Croatia do not stay in cheap camps anymore(the notorious cheap Czechs) but they choose luxury hotels for the most part according to the article.So we can safely suppose that the cheap Czech tourists(who are now less) are now most likely gathered in Tynis,Egypt.In Greece you can see some of them in Leptokarya where they come by bus from Czech Republic(35 hours route).

Here you can see the usual Czech situation in Croatia.

http://www.amateri.cz/g637191-vodni-svet-1

http://www.amateri.cz/g765778-neni-nudeni-jako-nudeni

http://www.amateri.cz/g538198-dovolenkova-pohoda

http://www.amateri.cz/g786342-leto-je-tu

[Pepini]

(07-14-2012 11:46 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:36 AM)Pepini Wrote:  

Some friends went to Montenegro 3 weeks ago. it´s just another version of Croatia.

What's that mean?

Good or bad?

G I haven´t been there. I´ve called one of my friends, who had been with me to Croatia 6 years ago and asked him what did I miss. He said: "not much, it´s just another version of Croatia, no surprises."
The quest me and my buddies had was to find a beach town with sluts as easy and good looking as in industrial shitolhes. Montenegro could be that place, but wasn´t according to him.

[Technics]

(07-15-2012 09:40 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

What matters is not the place but the crowds which frequent it.For example in today's Crete arrivals you can see 12 planes from Russia,3 planes from Poland and 2 from CR.This is very good score.I doubt if you get the same picture in Croatia's arrivals.

http://www.europe-airports.com/greece/sh...p?code=HER

Compare to Dubrovnik Croatia.There is only one arrival from Russia today,no arrival from Poland.(Czechs come to Croatia by bus or car).

http://www.europe-airports.com/croatia/s...p?code=DBV

For Split Croatia however there are 5 arrivals from Russia and 2 from Ukraine.There are likely resorts close there full of FSU tourists.

http://www.europe-airports.com/croatia/s...p?code=SPU

As for Antalya Turkey it has today 16 arrivals from Russia.So one resort in Turkey gets as many FSU tourists as Rodos and Crete combined.

http://www.europe-airports.com/turkey/sh...p?code=AYT

As for Cyprus it gets 14 flights from Russia(even from Ekaterinenburg).So it is very close to nearby Antalya as prefered FSU destination.You see clearly that Russians prefer the south Eastern Mediteranean coast(Crete,Rodos,Cyprus,Antalya).

Greek,

Your dedication to the game is truly impressive. I never would have thought of checking airports for flights, yet now that you've mentioned it, it seems so obvious.

Have you been to Antalya? If so, 1) How was your experience with slavic tourists? and 2) how was your experience with turkish girls?

[Greek kamaki]

(07-16-2012 03:21 PM)Technics Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 09:40 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

What matters is not the place but the crowds which frequent it.For example in today's Crete arrivals you can see 12 planes from Russia,3 planes from Poland and 2 from CR.This is very good score.I doubt if you get the same picture in Croatia's arrivals.

http://www.europe-airports.com/greece/sh...p?code=HER

Compare to Dubrovnik Croatia.There is only one arrival from Russia today,no arrival from Poland.(Czechs come to Croatia by bus or car).

http://www.europe-airports.com/croatia/s...p?code=DBV

For Split Croatia however there are 5 arrivals from Russia and 2 from Ukraine.There are likely resorts close there full of FSU tourists.

http://www.europe-airports.com/croatia/s...p?code=SPU

As for Antalya Turkey it has today 16 arrivals from Russia.So one resort in Turkey gets as many FSU tourists as Rodos and Crete combined.

http://www.europe-airports.com/turkey/sh...p?code=AYT

As for Cyprus it gets 14 flights from Russia(even from Ekaterinenburg).So it is very close to nearby Antalya as prefered FSU destination.You see clearly that Russians prefer the south Eastern Mediteranean coast(Crete,Rodos,Cyprus,Antalya).

Greek,

Your dedication to the game is truly impressive. I never would have thought of checking airports for flights, yet now that you've mentioned it, it seems so obvious.

Have you been to Antalya? If so, 1) How was your experience with slavic tourists? and 2) how was your experience with turkish girls?

I have never been to Antalya but I will likely visit Marmaris this year which is close to Rodos.(2 hours by boat).Antalya is close to Cyprus.In my opinion it is a good idea to do the swap visit Cyprus and Antalya or visit Rodos and Marmaris since both places are packed with Russian tourists.
Slavic women treated me very good in Turkey.The problem was the turkish guys a constant nuisance.The same with turkish girls.Turkish guys never leave their sisters alone for foreign men to bang them.Caucasians etc have the same habits very conservative people.Of course they keep the priviledge to fuck around with foreign women but their sisters have to be protected.
Anyway nothing that can really not be penetrated by Balkan power.

[Greek kamaki]

As for airports it is essential to visit the airport to get an idea of the new arrivals what kind of nationalities are going to come,if they are in pairs,alone,in groups or families and what hotels are going to pick them up.The airport is a central point in pick up activity.
I am really envious of all the guys living in these resorts being preoccupied the whole winter with going to the gym to pump some muscles and sharpening their penises to accomodate the northern female arrivals in the summer.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-17-2012 12:26 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

As for airports it is essential to visit the airport to get an idea of the new arrivals what kind of nationalities are going to come,if they are in pairs,alone,in groups or families and what hotels are going to pick them up.The airport is a central point in pick up activity.
I am really envious of all the guys living in these resorts being preoccupied the whole winter with going to the gym to pump some muscles and sharpening their penises to accomodate the northern female arrivals in the summer.

So it's good to visit the airport before deciding whether or not to take a trip there?

[Greek kamaki]

I visit sometimes the local airport at the resort I am in to get an idea about new arrivals etc.This is not the case in places where most tourists come by bus like Paralia Katerini.In this case I check the bus arrivals.

[Roosh]

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

[Rurik]

Many places crowded with international tourists are going to put girls' shields up higher. When there are so many people, most of them foreigners and strangers, it's harder to hook a girl. I noticed this in certain spots in Thailand. The idea that EE girls are easier to get back in their home turf, when you com in as a foreigner, makes sense.

[Richie]

Totally right. Every holiday destination I have been to has been less fruitful than visiting cities off season. I have learnt my lesson... no more beach action for me. It's boring.

[Greek kamaki]

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

This is exactly the same training you receive on mass greek holiday destinations like Rodos,Crete.Having to compete against international PUAs for some of the hottest girls on planet and in chaotic environement with new arrivals coming every day from current countries you gain an indespensable training and insight.

[chochemonger1]

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

Roosh, did you stay in a resort, hotel or apartment?

[Roosh]

^^ apartment

[Wolverine]

(07-29-2012 11:18 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

This is exactly the same training you receive on mass greek holiday destinations like Rodos,Crete.Having to compete against international PUAs for some of the hottest girls on planet and in chaotic environement with new arrivals coming every day from current countries you gain an indespensable training and insight.

But isnt the whole purpose of these holiday hotspots to get easy girls who are operating outside of their usual conservative shell?
If the environment doesnt allow for easier lays due to really bad ratios, chaotic environment, etc whats the point in spending so much cash going to crete and cyprus when those same slavic girls are easier in samara or kharkov? Granted the beaches themselves are beautiful in greece.

[chochemonger1]

(08-04-2012 07:48 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(07-29-2012 11:18 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

This is exactly the same training you receive on mass greek holiday destinations like Rodos,Crete.Having to compete against international PUAs for some of the hottest girls on planet and in chaotic environement with new arrivals coming every day from current countries you gain an indespensable training and insight.

But isnt the whole purpose of these holiday hotspots to get easy girls who are operating outside of their usual conservative shell?
If the environment doesnt allow for easier lays due to really bad ratios, chaotic enviroinment, etc whats the point in spending so much cash going to crete and cyprus when those same slavic girls are easier in samara or kharkov? Granted the beaches themselves are beautiful in greece.

Fifteen years ago,when I was a regular in the greek islands, Ios was considered hook up central. How far from the truth that was.....the girls were getting so much attention from the local greeks and other foreigners, that unless you were a dj or bartender, they were almost impossible to crack. Corfu was similar,but you had enough english and american girls to hook up with, at least twice a week. My theory is that where girls love to go, is where you are not going to get the best return on your investment I think that is pretty obvious from the wisdom imparted in the forum.

[Greek kamaki]

(08-04-2012 07:48 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(07-29-2012 11:18 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

This is exactly the same training you receive on mass greek holiday destinations like Rodos,Crete.Having to compete against international PUAs for some of the hottest girls on planet and in chaotic environement with new arrivals coming every day from current countries you gain an indespensable training and insight.

But isnt the whole purpose of these holiday hotspots to get easy girls who are operating outside of their usual conservative shell?
If the environment doesnt allow for easier lays due to really bad ratios, chaotic environment, etc whats the point in spending so much cash going to crete and cyprus when those same slavic girls are easier in samara or kharkov? Granted the beaches themselves are beautiful in greece.

It is only the timing.You find the same girls at their home towns in autumn.winter,spring and in resorts in the summer.Since all winter months are off season for travelling due to cold if you omitted the summer times when slavic girls go to rrsorts you would only have 4 months to hunt every year(April,May,September,Oktober).

[JuanCantina]

I spent 5 nights in Hvar this past week. I do agree with a lot of Roosh's points, you will meet more Aussies/British/and Canadians then local girls there. The only locals I even gamed, I met sitting by the dock one night, I got her number but she flaked after some texting... In fact, from what I've heard being in Split, most of the locals don't even go out much because they make so little money (they just drink outside by the water).

As for Hvar, the island is gorgeous. I've been to SE Asia and I think Hvar beat Thailand (Koh Phi Phi) as my favorite island ever for sheer beauty. Prices are high though, it felt like being back in New York.

We rented an apartment not far from the center, about a 5-10 minute walk up a bunch of stairs. Not a game killer per-say but definitley not fun during the day. What really annoyed me about this was the "hostess". An older woman who was super nice, but could not stand the fact that my friends and I would be up late and having guests come over. I literally got this note before my final night:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/h...1060_n.jpg



As for my synopsis, again Roosh was pretty spot on for the most part. You will find a lot of big groups as part of Yacht Week or Sail Croatia. That means they are there for one night only and sleeping on their yacht.. Typically I'd say stay away from them, BUT my only lay in 5 nights (i went out 4) was from a girl who was doing Sail Croatia (Australian naturally). I met her at the club by the bus station (pink something) and I literally pulled her within 15 minutes to go check out my "balcony". She had to get back to her boat by 6:30 AM, ha ha good times.

There is one good "early evening" party to note. It's called Hula Hula and it starts at 5 PM, runs till 9 PM and gets really good 7-8. I liked the crowd there, but the issue is a lot of girls there get a little tipsy, then leave for dinner/naps/ to get ready for the night out. I think it would be a good spot to get a ton of numbers and perhaps invite someone to pre-party with you after. As for after..

The nightlife really is centered around the bars in the middle (Kiva/Nautica, which were both fun) until 2 AM.. You can also check out Carpe Diem and another few I forget near there. But prices on the left side of the harbor are a bit higher and I think the crowd a bit more stuck up. You won't find to many backpacker types at Carpe Diem for $12 mixed drinks.

Then if you want after hours (1 AM +) you can take the ferry to Carpe Diem beach or go to the other 2 clubs (Veranda + Pink Champagne I think..) neither of which I was a huge fan of. Carpe Diem is alright, the venue itself is huge and really nice, but prices are high. If you can manage to bounce a girl from her group, to the ferry, back to your hotel/apartment, more power to you.

Advice: this worked out well one night. Instead of paying the ridiculous price for drinks, we went to a liquor store, bought a handle of Vodka, cups, and a mixer or two. We set up shop on the steps by Kiva Bar and had plenty of girls drinking with us. Bounced a bunch of Scottish/Irish ones this way to a club. Just an idea after you've tired yourself of the exorbitant prices.

Also, as stated above try to find an apartment not owned by some older lady who will get on your ass for bringing guests over

Overall, I enjoyed it but I would not tell you to come all the way to Croatia just for Hvar. It's a great stop over, but Split is fun also (Try the original split pub crawl one night, if you want a bunch of dumb 18-20 year old Aussie/Brits).

Cheers

(08-05-2012 04:41 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(08-04-2012 07:48 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(07-29-2012 11:18 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-24-2012 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Goodbye Hvar! My final review will be mostly negative, but I must say that I feel like I did a game super bootcamp. In three weeks I went out about 18 night, ran game on girls from a dozen countries on the street, boat, bar, club, supermarket, everywhere. Results were lower than if I was just about anywhere else (even Denmark), but I feel charged up right now.

Also last night I had a chance to meet Qwest and InternationalSwagger. Cool guys, I felt like we were on the same page. I don't think girls could tell that we only knew each other for a couple hours.

This is exactly the same training you receive on mass greek holiday destinations like Rodos,Crete.Having to compete against international PUAs for some of the hottest girls on planet and in chaotic environement with new arrivals coming every day from current countries you gain an indespensable training and insight.

But isnt the whole purpose of these holiday hotspots to get easy girls who are operating outside of their usual conservative shell?
If the environment doesnt allow for easier lays due to really bad ratios, chaotic environment, etc whats the point in spending so much cash going to crete and cyprus when those same slavic girls are easier in samara or kharkov? Granted the beaches themselves are beautiful in greece.

It is only the timing.You find the same girls at their home towns in autumn.winter,spring and in resorts in the summer.Since all winter months are off season for travelling due to cold if you omitted the summer times when slavic girls go to rrsorts you would only have 4 months to hunt every year(April,May,September,Oktober).

[Rob_Samma]

Hey RVF,

i will be in hvar between Aug 28 - Sept 2 (5 nights). There'll be me and my mate. We'd like to be somewhere that is walking distance from the main bar, Carpe Diem i believe is the main one (?). Can anyone recommend a good place to stay, or good location near that bar? We have a reasonable bankroll, just want to nail logistics.

Thanks!

[Cation]

If you are young and in the liking of the party vibe, I would go to a hostel.

You will meet like minded people there, and pay pennies in comparison to paying for a hotel.

[Rob_Samma]

(08-05-2018 01:48 PM)Cation Wrote:  

If you are young and in the liking of the party vibe, I would go to a hostel.

You will meet like minded people there, and pay pennies in comparison to paying for a hotel.

Thanks Cation, but as i mentioned, i will have a decent budget so me saving some cash on accommodation isnt really my concern. I'll also be someone and will meet other people when im out and about, so meeting people in a hostel isnt neccessary. Plus, as i inferred in my post, i want to leave the possibility open of entertaining a girl(s) at my place, in private. An 8 room dorm in a hostel isnt really condusive to that, and most probably activates good 'ol LMR.

[Cation]

Understood.

I used to work in a Hvar hostel. I would hear people hooking up, fucking in the shower at 3am.

A French girl brought a local guy and they made love on the terrace.

On a few occasions, I would talk to young Brits (20-23 bracket) and they told me stories about making love in a random boat.

What did all of these stories have in common? Alcohol and ugly girls

I hope you shall do better with your better logistics.