[fman]

(12-04-2009 11:58 AM)BrDr Wrote:  

Hey Fman,

Hows it going?? I hate to be negative BUT being in Iceland for a month is NOT a smart move...hahahha. I understood you say its a jump off point. BUT that being said I have BEEN to Iceland. The whole city consist of about 2 "major" streets, and Im not joking when I say that. If I were you I would think about staying there from a thursday to sunday/monday deal. After that, LEAVE, not really much going on there. That being said, the women there do look VERY good, BUT they are somewhat closed off. I HIGHLY suggest you send some feelers out to chics via e mail or try to connect with people you may know there through other people because it is VERY tough to "break them down."

What's up man,
Explain to me "closed off" and tough to "break them down". From all I read on blogs and forums, it is easy because the girls want something "exotic" atleast for one night. I have put out feelers and dude the response has been good. I have mad girls wanting to take me partying and drinking. They are chatting me up very often.

You conflicting report has made me think beccause I though Reykjavik was one big party on the weekend. What specificly was your experience with the locals? Were they flaky or just reserved until they get drunk. Please let me know I am about to spend a grip on the Apartment I put a downpayment on.

[speakeasy]

Hey, didn't the Icelandic currency recently collapse? I would think that would mean things would be cheap right now.

[Luckystar]

(12-04-2009 01:30 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Hey, didn't the Icelandic currency recently collapse? I would think that would mean things would be cheap right now.

The currency is basically worthless right now, but I've read inflation is running very high. I ve read things are alittle cheaper but not too much.

[Pepini]

(12-04-2009 01:10 PM)fman Wrote:  

(12-04-2009 11:58 AM)BrDr Wrote:  

Hey Fman,

Hows it going?? I hate to be negative BUT being in Iceland for a month is NOT a smart move...hahahha. I understood you say its a jump off point. BUT that being said I have BEEN to Iceland. The whole city consist of about 2 "major" streets, and Im not joking when I say that. If I were you I would think about staying there from a thursday to sunday/monday deal. After that, LEAVE, not really much going on there. That being said, the women there do look VERY good, BUT they are somewhat closed off. I HIGHLY suggest you send some feelers out to chics via e mail or try to connect with people you may know there through other people because it is VERY tough to "break them down."

What's up man,
Explain to me "closed off" and tough to "break them down". From all I read on blogs and forums, it is easy because the girls want something "exotic" atleast for one night. I have put out feelers and dude the response has been good. I have mad girls wanting to take me partying and drinking. They are chatting me up very often.

You conflicting report has made me think beccause I though Reykjavik was one big party on the weekend. What specificly was your experience with the locals? Were they flaky or just reserved until they get drunk. Please let me know I am about to spend a grip on the Apartment I put a downpayment on.

Yep Brdr is right. I had big expectations on Iceland but after being there I can´t say it was a disapointement but it was pretty much beneath what I imagined. Come to think about it you have to realise that Icelanders live 6 month with complete sun and six month with complete darkness, that pretty much fucks up anyone.
I wouldn´t stay in Iceland more than one week, unless you´re a big, big fan of natural sightseing. I mean in Reykjavik THERE`S NOTHING TO SEE (besides the girls) it´s a small vilage with one "big" street called Laugavegur. On weekends things get better, but like must europeans capitals.
About Iceland girls they are hot, but as equal as the other scandinavians.
I don´t know how is it now but when I was there in June the Krone was really devalued, I was talking with two iceland girls that told me before the crisis they would spend every weekend in Paris, Rome, New york, Etc, now they couldn´t and didn´t knew how to react. Well if you live on credit, one day you have to pay the bill.

There´s a thread about Iceland already:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23.htm...ht=iceland

and also about which countries with more blondes:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-741.ht...ght=blonde

[BrDr]

Ok, where do I start....First, whatever you do, DO NOT STAY IN ICELAND for longer then a 4-5 days. Granted we do not know each other, but TRUST ME! After the 3rd day you are going to want to leave. As I stated prior I would HIGHLY suggest you do a early thursday-monday deal. And honestly, you will probably want to leave BEFORE the Monday hits. The ONE major street they have with the clubs is cool, but will ONLY hold your attention for at MOST one weekend. And do not forget, yes, things are cheaper in Iceland then they used to be, BUT things are still above average for your avg. american. That being said DONT overspend considering that Iceland is your "jump point".

Now, let me explained "closed off". Remember man, Europe is a different "game". The people there (for the most part) are not over the top friendly, dont smile much, and if you do not know anyone in their social circle it will be tough to break the ice with them. Now, that being said it can be done, but it is NOT easy. A quick story...When I was there, I contacted a bunch of chics via myspace. I got a good number of responses. So when I get there and call, the girls were very how can I say NOT excited to hear from me. It was almost suprising cause the convo would go as such.. "Hey this is BRDr, Im finally here in Iceland, how are you!?!?"
And their answer would be a BLAND..'Hi, im ok." (SILENCE)..So I was kind of suprised on how "cold" they were. BUT its a numbers game, because I eventually did lay one girl that I met from my myspace spam campaign, thing that sucked was she was a 6 at BEST (I wont lie! hahaha)

OK, now the whole exotic thing.....Hmmm, how do I put this....Well, I think its bullshit..lol. Me being a black dude, did NOT really help me much while I was there. Yeah, sure a few stares here and there, but that was it. NOT a vantage point if you ask me. And it wasnt just me, it was me and my buddy (who is also black) and he didnt even get laid.

So in conclusion, please understand, Iceland IS a good time. BUT not worth more then 4/5 days. There are way to many other parts of Europe to see for you to sit in such a small city for a month. So if I were you I would suggest you..
-Spam a shit load on internet girls, as to create contacts BEFORE you get there
-ONLY stay 4/5 days
-Spit game starting from the time you LAND to the time you leave, because it may take some time to crack the girls
-Be aggressive with the chics, they are not use to this much out there
Thats it, if you have any other questions. PM me. Once again, not trying to rain on your parade, just want you to know what your getting into.
Lata

[BrDr]

Ok, where do I start....First, whatever you do, DO NOT STAY IN ICELAND for longer then a 4-5 days. Granted we do not know each other, but TRUST ME! After the 3rd day you are going to want to leave. As I stated prior I would HIGHLY suggest you do a early thursday-monday deal. And honestly, you will probably want to leave BEFORE the Monday hits. The ONE major street they have with the clubs is cool, but will ONLY hold your attention for at MOST one weekend. And do not forget, yes, things are cheaper in Iceland then they used to be, BUT things are still above average for your avg. american. That being said DONT overspend considering that Iceland is your "jump point".

Now, let me explained "closed off". Remember man, Europe is a different "game". The people there (for the most part) are not over the top friendly, dont smile much, and if you do not know anyone in their social circle it will be tough to break the ice with them. Now, that being said it can be done, but it is NOT easy. A quick story...When I was there, I contacted a bunch of chics via myspace. I got a good number of responses. So when I get there and call, the girls were very how can I say NOT excited to hear from me. It was almost suprising cause the convo would go as such.. "Hey this is BRDr, Im finally here in Iceland, how are you!?!?"
And their answer would be a BLAND..'Hi, im ok." (SILENCE)..So I was kind of suprised on how "cold" they were. BUT its a numbers game, because I eventually did lay one girl that I met from my myspace spam campaign, thing that sucked was she was a 6 at BEST (I wont lie! hahaha)

OK, now the whole exotic thing.....Hmmm, how do I put this....Well, I think its bullshit..lol. Me being a black dude, did NOT really help me much while I was there. Yeah, sure a few stares here and there, but that was it. NOT a vantage point if you ask me. And it wasnt just me, it was me and my buddy (who is also black) and he didnt even get laid.

So in conclusion, please understand, Iceland IS a good time. BUT not worth more then 4/5 days. There are way to many other parts of Europe to see for you to sit in such a small city for a month. So if I were you I would suggest you..
-Spam a shit load on internet girls, as to create contacts BEFORE you get there
-ONLY stay 4/5 days
-Spit game starting from the time you LAND to the time you leave, because it may take some time to crack the girls
-Be aggressive with the chics, they are not use to this much out there
Thats it, if you have any other questions. PM me. Once again, not trying to rain on your parade, just want you to know what your getting into.
Lata

[Luckystar]

Bringing this tread back

[kindredspirit]

I'd skip Stockholm and head straight to Goteborg, Lund, and the smaller cities in between (Halmstad, etc).

Not a fan of the Swedish females personally -- as I think their egos get inflated due to the constant ass kissing they get from Southern Europeans guys whenever they're on vacation + out of control feminism that's basically castrated the average Swedish male -- but they all do speak great English and are cool to hang with once in a while.

[speakeasy]

Fman, have you changed your mind on a month in Iceland? I have to admit I was a bit stunned that you mentioned wanting to go there for a month. Everything I've ever heard about the place confirms the long-weekend strategy.

[fman]

(12-06-2009 05:44 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Fman, have you changed your mind on a month in Iceland? I have to admit I was a bit stunned that you mentioned wanting to go there for a month. Everything I've ever heard about the place confirms the long-weekend strategy.

Yea Speakeay...I am starting to agree with the long weekend. I kinda thought that I could go to Iceland and then skip around smaller towns on the Island. I also originaly liked the fact of the hard partying on the weekend and figured I was bound to fall up on at least one girl weekly. I was afrarid if I skiped around Scandinavia too much I would be spinning my wheels trying to establish something. I figured Iceland was small enough to really do some damage, and if time allowed I was thinking of going to Finland, Sweden and Norway.

Regardless I am skiping out on South America all together and focusing on Scandinavia/Eastern Europe. If I change my plans I need to find out which city gives me the easiest access by air and ferry to the region I want to visit. I don't want to make this trip futile by not spending enough time anywhere to get some gaming in. Any suggestions???

[PartyTime]

(12-07-2009 10:52 AM)fman Wrote:  

I don't want to make this trip futile by not spending enough time anywhere to get some gaming in.

Good call. I once did a 9 country trip in Europe in 22 days. 2.6 days per country on average. I was able to see a lot, but it was bad for gaming. There is a learning curb to the night life, plus phone numbers are useless if you're only there for a couple days. Plus if you bang a hot girl, you want to bang her a few more times before you leave.

I'd say 2 weeks is the sweet spot (assuming you've done your research, and the city is popin to begin with).

[beebopaloo]

Okay, I can see there are some misconceptions on scandinavia in general. As a Dane I think I might be able to help you out.

First of all, the three countries Sweden, Norway and Denmark are pretty similar. The girls are beautiful - I think as a native I tend to be biased and underestimate their looks. I like what's different, like more exotic chicks, but a good bunch of you will probably love them. They are definitely not all blondes - in fact half of them are probably brunettes. But that doesn't matter - within the countries blondes aren't really anything special. Another positive thing is that it is pretty damn easy to get SNL's assuming your game is good. The girls shouldn't be racist at all - at least I've never ever gotten that impression, and that should make things easier as well.
Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

Another thing about scandinavian girls is that they are overly obsessed with status - not like in developing countries, where status means money, but as in having high socio-cultural value. The topnotch chicks of course can be gamed without being a photographer, promoter, musician or writer wearing the right clothes, but it is not gonna be easy. And hands down, from the great majority of commonwealth people I've seen travelling around the world, I think it is gonna be near impossible for the average joe or even the quarterback local hero to do any real damage here.

The best season to go to Scandinavia is definitely from may till september. Half of the year, it's damn cold and people stay indoor all the time, except in the weekends. People aren't very welcoming to strangers either - not because they don't like them - but because the culture in general dictates to only hang out in close knit circles. It would take months or even years to make friends.

If you combine this with the fact that scandinavian countries are some of the most expensive in the world, I think the final verdict is that you would do much better elsewhere.

You can take this as a warning or a challenge - it is up to you

[beebopaloo]

Oh yeah, I don't know too much about Finland, never been there, but they've got the reputation of having the least bangable girls of the Scandinavian countries...

Best nightlife: Copenhagen. No doubt. Doesn't rival Berlin, but some of the best and most diverse nightlife of Europe.
Stockholm and Gothenburg is alright, but the places closes earlier due to legal restrictions and there are fewer options. Second biggest city in Denmark, Århus, should be alright for a long weekend I guess. Norway is pretty shitty, but some fun can be had at the biggest ski-resorts, if you're in to that stuff. If your primary goal is beautiful nature it is highly recommended though..

[kindredspirit]

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Oh yeah, I don't know too much about Finland, never been there, but they've got the reputation of having the least bangable girls of the Scandinavian countries...

Best nightlife: Copenhagen. No doubt. Doesn't rival Berlin, but some of the best and most diverse nightlife of Europe.
Stockholm and Gothenburg is alright, but the places closes earlier due to legal restrictions and there are fewer options. Second biggest city in Denmark, Århus, should be alright for a long weekend I guess. Norway is pretty shitty, but some fun can be had at the biggest ski-resorts, if you're in to that stuff. If your primary goal is beautiful nature it is highly recommended though..

I can go into this in more detail but Finnish girls put out for native English-speakers at a high clip. And while 50% of them may be drunken fatties who've let their bodies go to waste and lost touch with their feminine side, there's still the upper 20-30% who will blow your mind. As with all things, avoid the well-trodden path followed by the masses and forge your own trail on the path less taken.

Personally, I'd skip all of Scandinavia altogether and head straight to Tampere, Turku, and to a lesser extent, Helsinki, if you're after "nordic" looking girls.
Finland is the hidden jewel for easy lays whereas Sweden is the giant red herring that many guys waste their time on. I have heard rumors that black American guys are particularly well-received in Sweden though.

[Pepini]

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Oh yeah, I don't know too much about Finland, never been there, but they've got the reputation of having the least bangable girls of the Scandinavian countries...

Yep I have the same impression. Haven´t been to Norway though.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Stockholm and Gothenburg is alright, but the places closes earlier due to legal restrictions and there are fewer options.

This is actually what I hated most in Scandinavia. The fact that the state treat people like if they were litle children. In Iceland everything had to close at 01h except weekends. Fuck that. If I wanna stay in a bar I don´t wanna the state to tell me: Ok now it´s 01: am it´s time to go to bed.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Norway is pretty shitty, but some fun can be had at the biggest ski-resorts, if you're in to that stuff. If your primary goal is beautiful nature it is highly recommended though..

Which ski reosrt would you recommend? cheaper (probably imposible in Norway) with Best nightlife, girls and slopes.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Best nightlife: Copenhagen. No doubt. Doesn't rival Berlin, but some of the best and most diverse nightlife of Europe.

I was in Copenhagen two days. the best I got was this:

[fman]

(12-08-2009 10:19 AM)Pepini Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Oh yeah, I don't know too much about Finland, never been there, but they've got the reputation of having the least bangable girls of the Scandinavian countries...

Yep I have the same impression. Haven´t been to Norway though.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Stockholm and Gothenburg is alright, but the places closes earlier due to legal restrictions and there are fewer options.

This is actually what I hated most in Scandinavia. The fact that the state treat people like if they were litle children. In Iceland everything had to close at 01h except weekends. Fuck that. If I wanna stay in a bar I don´t wanna the state to tell me: Ok now it´s 01: am it´s time to go to bed.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Norway is pretty shitty, but some fun can be had at the biggest ski-resorts, if you're in to that stuff. If your primary goal is beautiful nature it is highly recommended though..

Which ski reosrt would you recommend? cheaper (probably imposible in Norway) with Best nightlife, girls and slopes.

(12-08-2009 07:55 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Best nightlife: Copenhagen. No doubt. Doesn't rival Berlin, but some of the best and most diverse nightlife of Europe.

I was in Copenhagen two days. the best I got was this:

Wow at least it looks like the girls in Copenhagen give some solid head.....Pun intended.

[Luckystar]

(12-08-2009 07:40 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Okay, I can see there are some misconceptions on scandinavia in general. As a Dane I think I might be able to help you out.

First of all, the three countries Sweden, Norway and Denmark are pretty similar. The girls are beautiful - I think as a native I tend to be biased and underestimate their looks. I like what's different, like more exotic chicks, but a good bunch of you will probably love them. They are definitely not all blondes - in fact half of them are probably brunettes. But that doesn't matter - within the countries blondes aren't really anything special. Another positive thing is that it is pretty damn easy to get SNL's assuming your game is good. The girls shouldn't be racist at all - at least I've never ever gotten that impression, and that should make things easier as well.
Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

Another thing about scandinavian girls is that they are overly obsessed with status - not like in developing countries, where status means money, but as in having high socio-cultural value. The topnotch chicks of course can be gamed without being a photographer, promoter, musician or writer wearing the right clothes, but it is not gonna be easy. And hands down, from the great majority of commonwealth people I've seen travelling around the world, I think it is gonna be near impossible for the average joe or even the quarterback local hero to do any real damage here.

The best season to go to Scandinavia is definitely from may till september. Half of the year, it's damn cold and people stay indoor all the time, except in the weekends. People aren't very welcoming to strangers either - not because they don't like them - but because the culture in general dictates to only hang out in close knit circles. It would take months or even years to make friends.

If you combine this with the fact that scandinavian countries are some of the most expensive in the world, I think the final verdict is that you would do much better elsewhere.

You can take this as a warning or a challenge - it is up to you

[beebopaloo]

I was in Copenhagen two days. the best I got was this:
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Yeah, like I said: if you look like a douchebag in Scandinavia your best shot will be with the Little mermaid

[Pepini]

Easy bro don´t talk trash about my girlfriend.

[Luckystar]

(12-08-2009 07:40 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

It's true the Scandinavian guys are very sharp dressers and good looking.

[Shaman]

(12-08-2009 08:08 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 07:40 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

It's true the Scandinavian guys are very sharp dressers and good looking.

But, from most of the info I've gathered, they have little or no game(especially day game). The ineptness of Scandianvian guys is always pointed at the over the top feminism in these countries. This is just my understanding, and having run into a few Swedes, I have to say...not a whole lot of charisma or moxy in their personalities, let alone gaming talents.

This is precisely what I've read from multiple guys (with SERIOUS game: RSD instructors--search for "sweden" on the RSD forum, you'll find plenty of info, specifically look for Tim's thread) who have been there: Scandinavian guys are very good looking and very stylish, but as we all know that counts for very little if you have no game, and their game is worse than no game, it's negative game that actually makes things worse because it's fucking BETA as shit; they're HORRIBLE from what I've heard. VERY non-aggressive, they almost never approach, definitely come off as very feminist-ized.

[beebopaloo]

(12-08-2009 11:32 PM)Shaman Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 08:08 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 07:40 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

It's true the Scandinavian guys are very sharp dressers and good looking.

But, from most of the info I've gathered, they have little or no game(especially day game). The ineptness of Scandianvian guys is always pointed at the over the top feminism in these countries. This is just my understanding, and having run into a few Swedes, I have to say...not a whole lot of charisma or moxy in their personalities, let alone gaming talents.

This is precisely what I've read from multiple guys (with SERIOUS game: RSD instructors--search for "sweden" on the RSD forum, you'll find plenty of info, specifically look for Tim's thread) who have been there: Scandinavian guys are very good looking and very stylish, but as we all know that counts for very little if you have no game, and their game is worse than no game, it's negative game that actually makes things worse because it's fucking BETA as shit; they're HORRIBLE from what I've heard. VERY non-aggressive, they almost never approach, definitely come off as very feminist-ized.

Haha. I think you've never seen me do approaches then. Non-aggressive, no way

I think you're really on point, saying that daygame is not very popular in Scandinavia. That's definitely true. But I guess on the other hand the percentage of guys doing approaches in the day time even in USA in "post the game era" should be very, very slim. But that might be a niche for you guys.

In my circle of acquaintances a lot of guys know how to do approaches and are good at it. And they're not somebody I've met online, so I assume it is pretty general. These guys are doing great everywhere they go in the world. Also if you take in to account the base of members of the seduction community online, you'd quickly see that it it's pretty big when comparing to the size of the country and the demography.

I agree that in Sweden the case is not the same, but on the other hand, this is based on what Swedish girls have told me, what I've seen during my visits there (+20) and so on. They really tend to "respect" the chicks very much and be kind of shy. But anyhow, they still manage to hook up. Social circle game, I guess.

My point is that if you aren't really the 'right' kind of guys in the eyes of the girls it's gonna be tough no matter what the competition is like.
I faced the same shit in Colombia, especially Medellin, where the guys have NO game, looks, or anything going on for them whatsoever.

But good luck, guys

[kindredspirit]

Agree with the previous post. Scandinavians are tribal in general and comfort/kinship goes a long way in allowing the local guys to hook with with the local girls.

Don't expect to touch down in Copenhagen or Stockholm and mow down women like a human machine gun loaded with viagra bullets.

[beebopaloo]

(12-08-2009 11:32 PM)Shaman Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 08:08 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(12-08-2009 07:40 AM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

Now things are starting to sound too be true - and it is. The thing is, the competition in the scandi countries is gonna be tough. A huge percentage of Danish guys have game, they dress really well, and have the advantage of knowing the language. In Sweden and Norway it would be almost the same, except I know in Sweden the guys are even sharper dressers.

It's true the Scandinavian guys are very sharp dressers and good looking.

But, from most of the info I've gathered, they have little or no game(especially day game). The ineptness of Scandianvian guys is always pointed at the over the top feminism in these countries. This is just my understanding, and having run into a few Swedes, I have to say...not a whole lot of charisma or moxy in their personalities, let alone gaming talents.

This is precisely what I've read from multiple guys (with SERIOUS game: RSD instructors--search for "sweden" on the RSD forum, you'll find plenty of info, specifically look for Tim's thread) who have been there: Scandinavian guys are very good looking and very stylish, but as we all know that counts for very little if you have no game, and their game is worse than no game, it's negative game that actually makes things worse because it's fucking BETA as shit; they're HORRIBLE from what I've heard. VERY non-aggressive, they almost never approach, definitely come off as very feminist-ized.

I forgot to address this one: Of course I believe that the RSD instructors have game. I am huge fan of some of their products like Jeffy Show and Blueprint.

But don't forget that they are, and will always be, A COMPANY. That's something pretty different from what I assume this forum to be: a source of agenda-free information.

Like all companies RSD wants to make money, so they probably won't tell you things that could harm the business - like for example that GAME is not the answer to all questions.

For some time my worldview was so tainted by the Blueprint that I would literaly be stunned, when I saw chodes hooking up. But it happends too. Guys who don't have "the nimbus", and are "externally fulfilled" (instead of whoohoo non-egoic game-masters lording the club) get girls, and sometimes even HOT ones.

But if RSD told people that grooming and having high prestige lifestyles, jobs and hobbbies was effective as well, they wouldn't really be able to sell you twenty DVDs and whatnot.

Don't get me wrong - I think what they preach holds a certain degree of truth, but it's not the magic pill...

[Pepini]

Man the way this thread is heading you might think that Scandi girls are hard. NO THEY AREN´T!

I´ve already make out with a swedish chick saying not more than 10 words (she was on holidays in South of Portugal), a Finish girl who was a friend of an estonian I was banging, a Icelandic girl only saying: "I´ve never kissed an icelandic girl", after came another Icelandic girl who invited me to a house party. Man I was in a goodbye dinner of the estonian and that finish said in front of everybody: "You know M.... is going but I´m staying". And yeah all this girls were hot.

Basically I miss Norway and Denmark to have a complete scandi rundown. I´ve been two nights (a saturday and a sunday) in Copenhagen and I can assure you that the problem is more that the nightlife is lame than the girls are hard, there´s no real dancing, people stay in litle groups chating. It´s also dispersed without a reference club. And on the top of all you don´t see the hotties that go around in bikes all day. They disapear when night comes. And by the way I did make out with a cope girl in a club called Lux. That one was really a challenge, she came near me holded my hand and started dancing. I got her number cause she was going to the south of Portugal on holidays in two weeks, cause if not I wouldn´t even bother asking, I was leaving to Iceland on the next day, and I knew I wouldn´t bang her that night.
The best of the Cope trip was talking to Gus Hansen who was in the same club drinking moet chandon and holding a blonde in each arm.

In Cope also a friend of mine hooked up with day game in Macdonalds.

Granted they are not as easy as EE, when I say EE, I mean universtity cities, cause I can assure that hooking up with a czech girl from Prague in Prague (sorry for the bad english) today, is as hard or more than hooking up with a scandinavian. Scandi girls are damn more easy than the average european and saying that Scandinavia is a challenge is way over exagerating. You want a challenge? go to Italy without speaking the native language, Spain or Greece.

About Scandi guys gaming, well in Madrid one of my roomates was a finnish guy. The first two months I lived with him he was like a stranger, cold as ice. After that finally I went out with him. Zero, I mean zero game. The basic in game is aproaching. It doesn´t matter the consequences, you have to aproach, in 10 aproaches 1,2,3,4,5,.. will fall (it depends on the location). I had a girlfriend that I cared a lot back then so I was only watching. I see a filipine girl checking him out. He doesn´t do shit. I start talking with her (she was bisexual) and introduced her to him. I don´t know what the f-ck he said, but after 30 secs. she left.