[AlphaTravel]

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Will probably buy property in Budapest, Belgrade, or Lvov and call that home. All have low cost of living, hot women, safe, not very multicultural etc.

You think these places NOT being multicultural is a good thing?

[deepcov3r]

(06-05-2012 02:07 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I've never been to SF, LA, or MIA. SF weather and City wise is perfect for me. But I've herd its a beacon for mannish feminists just like Toronto. The Bay Area would seem good for somebody whom is older maintain a good bank roll and settling down.

Bay Area is tempting though I just really need to make a trip out there and see if there's a spot I could carve out my mesh in.

You've got it backwards, Bay Area is about hipness, being cool and young. People are around the big internet company money and if you're young there's still some fantasy of becoming much more. The young chicks ( 18-26) want an EXTREMELY impulsive and hedonistic life ( giong to the desert, to dance parties etc) and the pursuit of eternal youth. Once you're 40 [all oter things being equal] your attraction for them goes way down because you symbolize limitiations and not getting everything immediately jsut form being special. The pissed-off feminist thing is much more the older chicks and chicks with mental health problems, ( history of abuse etc) . Most youmg chicks are upper middle class and just want to fuck fuck fuck to have fun and prove their status.

But if you're young ( under 35-37) you can make out. Just be around, they are very liberal so it's a DLV if they're NOT getting laid regularly.

[Veloce]

(06-05-2012 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

thedude3737 -

Southern California in general is a great place, if you want to stay in one place and not travel.

The nightlife laws suck, drinking laws suck, smoking laws suck and it's a police state, but on a 12 month basis, it is pretty hard to beat.

If you have the ability to move around, however, it sinks pretty quick.

You should check out Spain, it really matches CA on every level:

The north coast matches Northern California for beauty and beaches. Better food too.

The Med matches Southern California on beaches and weather.

The surf on the north coast is good too.

Not to mention two island chains. And a south Atlantic coastline.

Spain matches CA blow for blow.

Pretty damn impressive for a small country.

I hear ya G. The happiest I've ever been was vacationing on the Tuscan coastline, floating around in a Kayak in the middle of fishing boats and staring up at the sky by myself with a bunch of jellyfish beneath me. Shit, was that poetic or what?

It was the only time I've come back home and hated the fact that I had to come back. My line of work doesn't really enable me to be all that location independent so I have to stick to vacations for the time being.

Spain has been on my radar for some time. It's not that I want to stick to L.A., I pretty much just have to given the lifestyle that I've chosen.

There's a little town called Ojai about 2 hours from L.A. It's the closest thing I've found to the Mediterannean. I'll probably retire there if I do retire in the states. It's just too quiet. I'd lose my mind if I settled down there before the age of 50. I can see myself growing some grapes up there and producing my own wine and getting it on with a bunch of BMW driving wine snob cougars one day.

I'm a big fan of SF for the culture. Not the women. I'm also a big fan of the culture AND women in NY. But it's just too hectic, at least Manhattan. I've never spent any time in Brooklyn.

To me, if I gotta be in the states, there's nothing better than driving along PCH blasting some classic rock with a spliff.

[OGNorCal707]

[quote] (06-05-2012 09:56 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

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thedude3737 -


There's a little town called Ojai about 2 hours from L.A. It's the closest thing I've found to the Mediterannean. I'll probably retire there if I do retire in the states. It's just too quiet. I'd lose my mind if I settled down there before the age of 50. I can see myself growing some grapes up there and producing my own wine and getting it on with a bunch of BMW driving wine snob cougars one day.[/quote]



Ojai is a cool spot, I love that place, the nature around there is amazing and the people are as cool and laid back as you'll find in NorCal, and probably even friendlier.

There is a really dope hot spring there, where people are all down to puff weed, drink beer, and often there will be a few cute topless chicks. If you brought a girl there at the right time and had privacy it would be $$. I've gone on a few epic hikes in the hills around there, and apparently there are some really dope swimming holes too.

Like you said it's really small town, slow pace style. It would get boring, but would make a nice weekend getaway cabin spot, or retirement location. Some sexy milfs and jail bait young chicks, but good thing is Ventura (which I think has a population of 100K) is only 15 mins away. I kind of get the vibe that there is a certain niche scene in Ojai, involving new age hippies, yoga, organic farming, and swinger partner swapping lifestyle.

[Veloce]

(06-05-2012 11:12 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

[quote] (06-05-2012 09:56 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

thedude3737 -


There's a little town called Ojai about 2 hours from L.A. It's the closest thing I've found to the Mediterannean. I'll probably retire there if I do retire in the states. It's just too quiet. I'd lose my mind if I settled down there before the age of 50. I can see myself growing some grapes up there and producing my own wine and getting it on with a bunch of BMW driving wine snob cougars one day.

Ojai is a cool spot, I love that place, the nature around there is amazing and the people are as cool and laid back as you'll find in NorCal, and probably even friendlier.

There is a really dope hot spring there, where people are all down to puff weed, drink beer, and often there will be a few cute topless chicks. If you brought a girl there at the right time and had privacy it would be $$. I've gone on a few epic hikes in the hills around there, and apparently there are some really dope swimming holes too.

Like you said it's really small town, slow pace style. It would get boring, but would make a nice weekend getaway cabin spot, or retirement location. Some sexy milfs and jail bait young chicks, but good thing is Ventura (which I think has a population of 100K) is only 15 mins away. I kind of get the vibe that there is a certain niche scene in Ojai, involving new age hippies, yoga, organic farming, and swinger partner swapping lifestyle.

I've done that exact scenario several times at the hot springs. That's my piece of paradise. Taken several girls there to bang in the middle of the night, taken acid with my best friend and watched the sunrise, good memories.

One time some tweaker broke into my car and stole about 3k worth of gear though (I was stupid and had stuff out in plain view), so if you ever go there, just make sure nothing is visible in your car and you have a loud alarm.

You nailed the scene. Weird mix of bikers, white trash, hippy burnouts, escaped Hollywood actors, yuppies, backwater folks. One of the stranger and cooler places I've been to.

[The Fantasist]

Brighton,Uk.

Am I happy? Well I'm probably as happy here as I can be outside of London in the UK. I have a really comfortable pad,have good friends,have a decent social scene going on and I'm making enough to live a comfortable lifestyle but I'm just not satisfied with living where I am. I really want to be living in Eastern Europe somewhere,I just love the place,culture,women there but I've fallen into this comfortable way of life and taking the plunge seems further away then ever.

For me Budapest has just about all I want,if it had a Slavic culture it would tick every box and it's looking like I will make that my destination. The Slavic trinity also holds a power over me and if I could find a way to make money there I would probably be there on the next flight. I'm constantly thinking of ways to make cash out there but what I did here ( had my own shop ) will be hard to make work there. I really envy the location independent guys on here who can go where they like.

[RichieP]

Vorkuta, cool. Am considering Brighton for the summer... am reluctant to come back to UK, but Brighton struck me as one of the cooler summer options. Hows rent there?

[DjembaDjemba]

Maybe the Aussies here can chime in, I hear if you have a passport from an Anglo country (Canada, UK, New Zealand) you can immigrate to Australia before 30 easily. Is this true?

Australia would seem like a sweet spot and it's becoming more and more of a multi-everything hub.

[AlphaTravel]

You can if your skills are in high demand by the Aussies alternatively almost anyone under 30 from UK can get a working holiday visa for 12 months.

[Catch 22]

(06-05-2012 09:13 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

@ pitt, I disagree, I lived in several different cities within the last 10 years and always found it easy to make close friends. I also stated that I am not talking about perfection.

The problem I have with Roosh's theory is it sounds good on paper but reality tells a different story, at least for me.

Places do change, but not that drastically. If NY was a great city to be a single guy 15 years ago, I'm pretty sure it's still a great city for a single guy now, and will probably remain that way in the foreseeable future. Same goes for any location.

DC probably sucked years ago as much as it sucks now and will probably continue sucking years to come.

I believe there is an ideal location for everyone, but as an individual you need to have your list of qualities in order before setting out to find your slice of heaven.

I'm really hoping the established guys who have found their ideal place give details about their area and why it works for them.

I'm with you on DC, so I'm curious about the same thing. What are some of the best places to live in the US if you're going to have to do the full time job and not be able to travel all the time. I'm considering Tampa right now as a top possibility.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-06-2012 10:56 AM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  

Maybe the Aussies here can chime in, I hear if you have a passport from an Anglo country (Canada, UK, New Zealand) you can immigrate to Australia before 30 easily. Is this true?

Australia would seem like a sweet spot and it's becoming more and more of a multi-everything hub.

I think Kiwis get to reside in Aus anyway.

Brits, Canadians etc can get a one year working visa only(like I got). But there are many varied occupations in the skills in demand list. Even hairdressers can get a skilled visa.

Had a great time in Oz, I was last there in 2004. From what i've heard though these days you have problems with exorbitant cost of property in the main cities, then there is the obesity epidemic etc.

Most liveable country I have ever been to though

[Deb Auchery]

(06-05-2012 04:12 PM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

Quote:

Will probably buy property in Budapest, Belgrade, or Lvov and call that home. All have low cost of living, hot women, safe, not very multicultural etc.

You think these places NOT being multicultural is a good thing?

Definitely, Multiculturalism has been a disaster for many Western Nations.

[nash23]

I live in Singapore, and for now its ideal. Its clean, safe, efficient, good variety of cuisine that can be relatively cheap, low taxes (15% in Singapore vs average 40%+ rate I was paying in Aus), its becoming more international these days (so I'm not just limited to local poon), nightlife options have improved immensely, and most of my good likeminded friends are based here.

On the downside, it can get abit boring and monotonous being here after awhile but another Asian party city is just a short cheap flight away (Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Manila) - which is why I usually travel 2 weekends a month, the locals' attitude can get bit annoying as well, its like living in a sauna 365 days a year (but I rather that than sub zero degrees) and certain things are very expensive (eg. car, renting by yourself, alcohol, etc). But hey nowhere's perfect.

Now that I'm kind of semi-retired though, I'm toying with the idea of doing a 6 month stint in Europe or other parts of Asia during the warm months to learn a foreign language and do something internet startup related. However, there are some family matters that need to be sorted before this is possible.

I also lived in HKG for three years, and whilst the nightlife there are slightly better than Singapore, I still prefer Singapore because HKG is too densely populated and polluted, apartments are like shoeboxes and the locals are rude plus they don't speak alot of english.

[Rurik]

(06-04-2012 12:07 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

Has anyone found a place that matches their personality, lifestyle, and expectations from women ?

A place where you live well, work happily, have great friends, have a good selection of women and good hook up percentages ?

A place where you can travel to other locations and always look forward to coming back home ?

I realize no city or state will be absolutely perfect but are you living in a place whose positives far exceed the negatives ?

If anyone is living the good life please tell me where and why ?
I can't seem to find an ideal place to live.

You basically can't find all these things in one place, especially not america.

For americans, it's best to allow yourself mini-retirements in the right 3rd world countries to fulfill you sexual desires.

Either that or you can just relocate to the right spot overseas. For me, and I think for most people in their late 20s or earlier, I don't see why cleanliness or nice architecture should matter as a place to live. Ease, quality of women, and safety are at the top after money concerns are handled (but if you make money online, location doesn't matter).

Living in a funky place with easy cute girls would be sick (China and much of eastern europe satisfies this category). these places are safe, cheap, but not dangerous and tend to have medical care, and are much much better for women.

As for the west coast of the United States, I couldn't recommend it really. LA would be sick if you were even moderately connected, or clicked into the right scene.

Places like Ohio, Kentucky, or the south are good because rent is so fucking cheap. 400 bucks a month for a 2 bedroom house near cities of a million people, many of them hot country blonde chicks.

[velkrum]

Rurik Wrote:

1. You basically can't find all these things in one place, especially not america.
2. Living in a funky place with easy cute girls would be sick (China and much of eastern europe satisfies this category).
3. Places like Ohio, Kentucky, or the south are good because rent is so fucking cheap. 400 bucks a month for a 2 bedroom house near cities of a million people, many of them hot country blonde chicks.
   

1. Atlanta comes really close to being ideal for me. The winters are not harsh and its a great city with beautiful outlying areas. Westfield, Jersey City, Cranford NJ, and downtown San Francisco were also nice locations. I don't buy into the idea that there are ZERO places in America that match the working, social, and sexual lifestyle of a financially established single guy.
2. Those are travel destinations in my eyes. I'm not ready to take a huge pay cut, learn another language and live in another country for "easy cute girls".
3. At one point in my life 400 bucks a month for a hole in the wall apt with a cool roommate in a nice part of town would have been AWESOME. When a guy starts making over 20,000 a month and has had a taste of living in luxury...that 400 dollar hole in the wall just doesn't seem very appealing anymore.
   

I would really like to hear more responses from financially established guys who have found their ideal location and the reasons why that location works for them.

[RawGod]

Haven't found my ideal setup yet, but at the moment my idea for the future is to buy a condo in Bangkok and an apartment in Budapest, and split my time between them. Bangkok gives you unlimited women, and great food, Budapest gives you gorgeous women, great cultural life and easy access to the rest of Europe. Both places are really cheap to buy property and to live.

You could buy a truly dope bachelor pad in each of those two cities and have lots of change from the average home price in my hometown in Australia.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-07-2012 04:43 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Haven't found my ideal setup yet, but at the moment my idea for the future is to buy a condo in Bangkok and an apartment in Budapest, and split my time between them. Bangkok gives you unlimited women, and great food, Budapest gives you gorgeous women, great cultural life and easy access to the rest of Europe. Both places are really cheap to buy property and to live.

You could buy a truly dope bachelor pad in each of those two cities and have lots of change from the average home price in my hometown in Australia.

Great idea.

Summer in Budapest/Europe, winter in Thailand. That's pretty much what i'm thinking.

[AlphaTravel]

(06-06-2012 06:49 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Brits, Canadians etc can get a one year working visa only(like I got). But there are many varied occupations in the skills in demand list. Even hairdressers can get a skilled visa.

Had a great time in Oz, I was last there in 2004. From what i've heard though these days you have problems with exorbitant cost of property in the main cities, then there is the obesity epidemic etc.

Most liveable country I have ever been to though

Brits (and presumably Canadians) can emigrate to Australia full time if they have skills which are in demand in Aus, I know a few peoples who have done it.

Aus is fun but too expensive for my liking, rent, food, beer etc all cost too miuch. I couldn't think seriously about living there.

(06-06-2012 06:59 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Definitely, Multiculturalism has been a disaster for many Western Nations.

I disagree. Multiculturalism is great in so many different ways. I like a vibrant country with people from all over not a place that is samey and has one culture only. The area where I live in the UK is pretty multicultural means I have a great selection of restaurants, bars, shops and other businesses from around the world near me. I can have a pint in a Polish pub, go to a Brazilian restaurant for dinner, go shopping in a Jamaican or Chinese supermarket etc.

(06-06-2012 07:49 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

For me, and I think for most people in their late 20s or earlier, I don't see why cleanliness or nice architecture should matter as a place to live. Ease, quality of women, and safety are at the top after money concerns are handled (but if you make money online, location doesn't matter).

Living in a funky place with easy cute girls would be sick (China and much of eastern europe satisfies this category). these places are safe, cheap, but not dangerous and tend to have medical care, and are much much better for women.

Just because you're in your late 20s you can't appreciate architecture or cleanliness?

[garygroundwork]

6 months Bangkok 6 months Sydney would be nice

[muc]

(06-07-2012 06:26 AM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

I disagree. Multiculturalism is great in so many different ways. I like a vibrant country with people from all over not a place that is samey and has one culture only. The area where I live in the UK is pretty multicultural means I have a great selection of restaurants, bars, shops and other businesses from around the world near me. I can have a pint in a Polish pub, go to a Brazilian restaurant for dinner, go shopping in a Jamaican or Chinese supermarket etc.

Sir, I agree with your disagreeing! London is an example of a city that is just great because of multiculturalism. So is Munich and perhaps Zurich (both to a lesser extent compared to L. of course) and I am sure many more. Whenever someone raises their hand to say that multiculturalism is the reason for one or many issues, I'd say try to figure out what the problems really are. I very much doubt it's because some percentage doesn't speak your language, doesn't celebrate your holidays and pray to another god.

About the actual topic: I am currently back in Bucharest. This place left a very good impression on me a couple of weeks back and now I am confirming. Chances are I'll spend some more time here in the future.

Things I like: Warm, friendly people (although there are black sheep that try to rip off tourists), nice nightlife, very feminine women, everybody speaks English or German or French (or all of those languages for that matter), lower prices than in my country. But mostly its the vibe of the people.. I don't know how to describe it. But it's a little bit as if my DNA would match with this place well.

Places I want to check out next though:

- South Africa
- Vietnam, Thailand, etc. (SE-asia)
- Former soviet republics like Ukraine, Kazachstan and so forth.

Who knows, maybe one of them will be a better match than Romania.

[The Fantasist]

(06-07-2012 06:26 AM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 06:59 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Definitely, Multiculturalism has been a disaster for many Western Nations.

I disagree. Multiculturalism is great in so many different ways. I like a vibrant country with people from all over not a place that is samey and has one culture only. The area where I live in the UK is pretty multicultural means I have a great selection of restaurants, bars, shops and other businesses from around the world near me. I can have a pint in a Polish pub, go to a Brazilian restaurant for dinner, go shopping in a Jamaican or Chinese supermarket etc.

But that is the positive side,the thin veneer. It's like saying the Euro currency is a good idea because it makes travel easier whilst forgetting the huge fiscal negatives for countries finances.

The negatives of multiculturalism are seen in places like the northern towns in the UK which have become ghettoised,where whites are not welcome in certain parts and Asians not welcome in the other. Where there is practically zero trans-community contact. I lived in Oldham ( Manchester ) for a while and there is bitterness from the native white population that their town is losing it's British identity and becoming a mini Peshawar. It's only when you see you are the minority and resented by the incomers that you begin to see the reality of the concept. I'll tell you a story: my mate works for the post office in London. 80% off the workers in his sorting office are from Pakistan/Bangladesh. On his first day he was told by a Muslim worker that as a white male he was never allowed to talk to or approach a Muslim female worker in the sorting office,he had to go through a male first. That is the reality of a multi cultured society in many places. I have blacks and Indians in my family through marriage,I'm of Polish Jewish ancestry so I have no axe to grind with immigrants as my grandfather was one but there has to be an acceptance that if you move to another country that you should adapt and assimilate to your host countries values. Unfortunately that does not happen with vast swathes of immigrants. Yes the Polish shops are cool,the Portuguese restaurants awesome and the Russian girls in London great but behind that veneer is a seething hotbed of failure and anger at the multiculturalism that successive governments have promoted or turned a blind eye to. From that anger you get the vile parties of the right such as the BNP or the EDF.

Good things have come from immigration but a whole host of shit too that us who don't live down on the lower rungs of society in the ghettos witness.

[The Fantasist]

(06-08-2012 07:32 AM)muc Wrote:  

About the actual topic: I am currently back in Bucharest. This place left a very good impression on me a couple of weeks back and now I am confirming. Chances are I'll spend some more time here in the future.

Things I like: Warm, friendly people (although there are black sheep that try to rip off tourists), nice nightlife, very feminine women, everybody speaks English or German or French (or all of those languages for that matter), lower prices than in my country. But mostly its the vibe of the people.. I don't know how to describe it. But it's a little bit as if my DNA would match with this place well.

Will you bust out a Bucharest sheet for people who want to live there? Only been once but liked it a lot and could definitely handle a few months down there. Nice women too.

[Perseus]

I'm not one bit happy in Toronto, career wise (way too much competition and high preference for females in the professional job market) AND well Toronto women are just special. Hence currently about to purchase tickets to Europe, specifically Denmark and Germany as i have family in both (i'll look up data sheets on Germany though not Denmark ), also visiting Norway, probably sweden, then somewhere in EE for a brief period of time.

[WanderingSoul]

(06-07-2012 04:43 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Haven't found my ideal setup yet, but at the moment my idea for the future is to buy a condo in Bangkok and an apartment in Budapest, and split my time between them. Bangkok gives you unlimited women, and great food, Budapest gives you gorgeous women, great cultural life and easy access to the rest of Europe. Both places are really cheap to buy property and to live.

You could buy a truly dope bachelor pad in each of those two cities and have lots of change from the average home price in my hometown in Australia.

Same with me, but probably Bangkok and Rio, even though I have not been to Rio yet. 4-8 months in BKK, 1-2 months in California, 4-8 months in Rio. Rinse and repeat with some 1-3 month excursions to places like Dominican Republic, Colombia, Peru, Vietnam, etc. thrown in every once in a while.

I think this is a great way to avoid getting burned out on one specific place. Also will allow you to have good social circles in two cities that you really enjoy. It's enough time after a couple of years to have a really good grasp on the language of each country if you put in a bit of effort. Being conversational in the local language, having a nice bachelor pad, and a good social circle will yield you lots of quality pussy for years to come. Not to mention being a fuckin killer way to live your life.

Ah, the joys of working online.....except for the fact that I am flat broke right now so it might be a little bit before this becomes a reality hah.

[Rurik]

(06-06-2012 09:32 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

Rurik Wrote:

1. You basically can't find all these things in one place, especially not america.
2. Living in a funky place with easy cute girls would be sick (China and much of eastern europe satisfies this category).
3. Places like Ohio, Kentucky, or the south are good because rent is so fucking cheap. 400 bucks a month for a 2 bedroom house near cities of a million people, many of them hot country blonde chicks.
   

1. Atlanta comes really close to being ideal for me. The winters are not harsh and its a great city with beautiful outlying areas. Westfield, Jersey City, Cranford NJ, and downtown San Francisco were also nice locations. I don't buy into the idea that there are ZERO places in America that match the working, social, and sexual lifestyle of a financially established single guy.
2. Those are travel destinations in my eyes. I'm not ready to take a huge pay cut, learn another language and live in another country for "easy cute girls".
3. At one point in my life 400 bucks a month for a hole in the wall apt with a cool roommate in a nice part of town would have been AWESOME. When a guy starts making over 20,000 a month and has had a taste of living in luxury...that 400 dollar hole in the wall just doesn't seem very appealing anymore.
   

I would really like to hear more responses from financially established guys who have found their ideal location and the reasons why that location works for them.

Are you working to make hundreds of thousands a year?

Even if you are, you may want to consider somewhere in the middle of the country. A place like atlanta has decent weather and is pretty cheap.

And it's not a paycut for me to relocate, since my business is online. You can make 200 grand a year and live in Manhattan, LA, or SF, or 75 grand and live even better in another country.

My main point is that you can have much better sexual opportunities in other countries, ESPECIALLY as an older established guy, where women want a man who is much older than them and takes control financially.

If you are making 200k in the US, you may not leverage that to get very good pussy....whereas in Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, you'd have your pick of hot blondes all day long. That's all.