[Days of Broken Arrows]

There's a larger issue here someone should write about at ROK. IMO the media's push toward glamorizing tattoos on women is yet another way they're deliberately masculinizing Western women.

It's not enough to have them not having kids, taking power jobs, cursing like sailors, smoking, etc. Now they have to look like "a slightly more voluptuous version of your father" to quote the late, great Frank Zappa.

The media shames anything associated with traditional masculinity and femininity and thus glorifies the inverse. If we're repulsed, well, I bet a lot of other guys are too but are too cowed to say so. So we're left pointing out the Emperor's New Clothes, so to speak.

Anyone who thinks they're "adding" to the beauty of the female body by adorning it with tattoos needs to be bitch-slapped into next week, especially the mindless media-MTV-fashion mag cheerleaders.

[SheriffBart]

This proves what I've felt about tattoos since people that weren't sailors and convicts started getting them. They are a bogus egotistical fad. Which is exactly what women, especially modern western women, are into. Makes sense for women to outnumber men.

I have anecdotal evidence to support the tattoo=whore theory. Only chick to ever try to give me porn star BJ was covered in em.

[Ziltoid]

While that statistic is probably technically true, I have to wonder what percentage of women actually have substantial tattoos as compared to men, and not just some butterfly on their shoulder type shit.

I don't mind tattoos on girls that much, except for the fact that they usually get ugly, stupid, and masculine ones... Girly/artsy shit like flowers, vines, birds, etc is OK by my book.

[Dr. Howard]

(01-14-2014 09:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Tattoos on both men and women are major red flags for me.

I wouldn't hire someone with visible tattoos.

and this is why I have worn long sleeves from the interview to at least through my first two performance reviews in past jobs. Once I've established a good rep the short sleeves and tattoos come out!!

[Dr. Howard]

(01-14-2014 10:18 AM)SheriffBart Wrote:  

This proves what I've felt about tattoos since people that weren't sailors and convicts started getting them. They are a bogus egotistical fad. Which is exactly what women, especially modern western women, are into. Makes sense for women to outnumber men.

I have anecdotal evidence to support the tattoo=whore theory. Only chick to ever try to give me porn star BJ was covered in em.

I agree, on the whole, however one of the sweetest girls I've ever dated was half japanese with a huge full back tattoo (like the yakuza style) and no other visible tattoos. Again its girls that are LOOK AT MY TATTOOS!! types vs. "oh yes, I happen to have a tattoo that you are seeing for the first time since I am naked" modesty applies to tattoos and personalities I guess.

[The Beast1]

(01-14-2014 11:17 AM)wiscanada Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 09:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Tattoos on both men and women are major red flags for me.

I wouldn't hire someone with visible tattoos.

and this is why I have worn long sleeves from the interview to at least through my first two performance reviews in past jobs. Once I've established a good rep the short sleeves and tattoos come out!!

You're probably a good dude and I'd probably enjoy your company. But when it comes to tattoos, the reaction I have is visceral.

Keep the long sleeves on, the judgement comes out regardless of how long i've known someone. They get put into the box of "misfit" toys. I personally know what I liked as a kid and teenager, but I change too much to want to have the same thing on my body as I get older.

Knew this girl who was a solid 8. Group of friends decided to go on a beach trip. Discovered the nastiest sleeve in the world.

She's a solid 7 now because of it. Shame because she was pretty good looking.

Thankfully most people don't care and I'm in the minority.

[Jackreacher]

Another thing is I can't take women with tattoos seriously, much less so then women in general aside from banging them while in the states. I don't flat out ignore them like I do the Obeasts, you can't if you're in the US that's like cutting off 80% of bangable women nowadays.

[RexImperator]

Large tattoos on girls just seem more and more common now in the US, and almost every girl has a tattoo somewhere. It's at the point where the best situation you can hope for is a "only" a small discrete tattoo somewhere.

[Quintus Curtius]

Whenever we think it can't get any worse, it does. There's just no end to it.

How many dots need to be connected, how many outrages do you have to read about, before we draw the inescapable conclusions?

That we're done, done, done. Finished.

Just skimming the "Everything Else" thread right now, I am seeing threads on:

Redneck scum chicks fighting and assaulting each other
Human scum American woman attention whoring during her abortion
More American women have tattoos than men

Et cetera, et cetera.

Every time we think we've hit bottom, we find out that the bottom is even further down. Where does it end? Will women literally devolve into primordial slime, or some other subhuman organism?

If a Tamerlane or a Genghis Khan swept in and destroyed everything, it would be good fresh start. Where are you Tamerlane? We need you now.

I mean, they're barely human now. And I mean that almost literally. Most American women don't even excite me at all. For me, it's foreign or nothing.

I can't even tolerate their presence. I don't want them crossing my field of vision. I don't want them near me. Just being around them drives me into a fury. I have to be honest.

[darklightdispatch]

(08-06-2012 07:14 PM)soup Wrote:  

The real contradiction is for women. I believe it is close to impossible for most women to square the feminist agenda with finding happiness in their own lives. This is why so many of them are on anti-depressants.

I think this really hits the nail on the head. The last thing nearly any woman actually wants is to be "strong and independent." Feminism is an easy sell when they're young and attractive because it's flattering, encourages them to revel in their peak-SMV power, and absolves them of personal responsibility.

I think we underestimate how profoundly non-individualistic women actually are. Tattoos are a good example. Women aren't getting them because they want to stand out and be different, they're getting them because they're fashionable and all their friends (and celebrities) are doing it. Back when tattoos really were unusual and counter-culture, how many normal girls were getting inked?

Also, look at something like boy bands or Justin Bieber. There's nothing equivalent for men. Women are herd animals that gravitate toward crazes.

Even "red pill" men underestimate just how different men and women are.

[AntiTrace]

Nothing has changed.



And chicks with ink can be hot, or they can look like trash. Chicks without ink can be hot, or they can look like trash.
And guys with tattoos aren't necessarily masculine, but you find a lot more masculine guys with ink than you do without.
And when I hear a guy say something along the lines "I would never a get a tattoo because blah blah blah" I can be 99% sure hes a feminine bitch.

[DetlefMourning]

I feel the same way about tattoos on girls as I do mayonnaise on a sandwich: I prefer there be none at all, but I can deal with a tiny little bit.

[Big Country]

So much hate on this thread. Tattoos have a rich tradition dating back thousands of years. The idea that having a tattoo alone makes a woman less feminine, to me, is ridiculous. Perhaps it is because I have a lot of female friends who have tattoos/are tattoo artists that I don't find it to make them masculine.

If you want to rail against BAD/trashy tattoos, by all means, do that. Don't just throw that lot in with others who have intricate, beautiful tattoos that only serve to enhance their looks and gives you a window into what they find important.

[kosko]

(05-26-2014 02:53 AM)Big Country Wrote:  

So much hate on this thread. Tattoos have a rich tradition dating back thousands of years. The idea that having a tattoo alone makes a woman less feminine, to me, is ridiculous. Perhaps it is because I have a lot of female friends who have tattoos/are tattoo artists that I don't find it to make them masculine.

If you want to rail against BAD/trashy tattoos, by all means, do that. Don't just throw that lot in with others who have intricate, beautiful tattoos that only serve to enhance their looks and gives you a window into what they find important.

Tattoos ruin broads. When they aren't discrete/hidden (surprise factor) or impeccably done/on some tribal cultural things it does little to "enhance" a woman. Tattoos age women and make them look low rent. Period. Anybody that can remember broads without ink can attest how much better they all looked.

This ink trend is on foolish levels. Nobody wants to admit it's a deep and dirty fad.

I can't wait till the next generation of women trolls this crop and goes for compete bare and clean skin, and then almost overnight you will be able to spot the old played out women like a puck on the ice.

Serious question for the men abroad. How is ink in other countries ? Is it creeping up, or is it like in the North America, or non-existent?

[whoishe]

In Poland (as we are very americanized) it's really getting ugly. At least in big cities

Ukraine (or at least Lviv) seems fortunately almost free of this plague. Girls in majority even arent interested or can't afford it. It's mostly chicks doing arts having an interest to get one (or more) here,

[Big Country]

(05-26-2014 03:54 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Tattoos ruin broads.

That is your opinion, of course.

(05-26-2014 03:54 AM)kosko Wrote:  

When they aren't discrete/hidden (surprise factor) or impeccably done/on some tribal cultural things it does little to "enhance" a woman.

If you notice, I said the exact same thing, I don't like a woman with bad tattoos.

As to whether this is a fad, I think you'll be disappointed. Tattooed women have been associated with feminist causes, and feminism is only getting started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_..._tattooing Seventh paragraph

To give some background I have two tattoos, so this might be why I'm not concerned with them on women.

[Vicious]

I can't find the source now but in the demography 18-30 in NA more than 50% has one or more tattoos.

Normal people are a minority.

This generation will look horrible once it hits 60. Imagine what a sleeve looks like on old wrinkled skin.

[Foolsgo1d]

Tattoos were never some vain vanity item in the ancient era, they symbolised tribes, religion, your nation and in the cases of women, the male ownership of them.

These days you have douchenozzels with tribal tattoos and women with tramp stamps, or those stupid thorn-like tattoos around their wrist or ankles. So what tribe are they from? WHo owns them?

Nobody. They seem to "look good" for the hell of it and fuck the consequences. The people who should be getting tatts are the people who are least influenced by the MSN.

- Prisoners
- Gangbangers
- Bikers


EDIT; I will be laughing my ass off come the time when these young women and men are wailing about how shit their tatts look in a couple of decades.

Anybody else is just striving to be "Individual" but becoming just like every other sheep.

[Big Country]

I can see that I'm in the minority on this forum, and that's alright by me.

As to the ancient tattoos being representative of the clan/tribe, you can look at the western modern world as being tribe-less. So people choose to do it of their own accord and in essence make their own tribe.

I got my first tattoo to remember coming out of a dark place in my life, and the second is a reflection of how I believe the universe works. They aren't for anyone but myself, the one on my forearm faces me, not the world. Many people choose to get tattooed for similar reasons, and just as many choose to get tattooed because it's cool to them. Either way, it isn't/shouldn't be a concern for anyone.

Also, taking glee in the idea of someone regretting a life choice is pretty low.

[Barry Scrotada]

(05-26-2014 03:54 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Serious question for the men abroad. How is ink in other countries ? Is it creeping up, or is it like in the North America, or non-existent?

In Brazil, they are everywhere. In Sao Paulo and Rio of course. But even in Nowheresville, towns of a few thousand, there is ink on the inner arm, chest, upper/lower back, ankle. Anywhere visible. For what's the point of a status symbol if no one can see it??

(On a side note, the girls-staring-at-smart-phones routine has made their way to the tiny towns too. Places where an unlocked phone costs the same as 3 months' rent...how do they afford that?)

[MongolianAbroad]

(01-14-2014 11:17 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 09:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Tattoos on both men and women are major red flags for me.

I wouldn't hire someone with visible tattoos.

and this is why I have worn long sleeves from the interview to at least through my first two performance reviews in past jobs. Once I've established a good rep the short sleeves and tattoos come out!!

You might be shooting yourself in the foot as far as promotion to upper management, depending on your industry. Many people still see tattoos in a negative light, and those people are heavily concentrated in older age brackets and in "conservative" industries like banking/finance. If you're a career-ladder type, I hope your CEO, upper management, and HR are all young and that you don't work in a conservative industry, because otherwise, fairly or not, you're raising all kinds of red flags (example, "this guy doesn't think of the long term consequences of his actions") with those tattoos in many of their minds. If you fall under that category, these folks exert power over your advancement in life, so you'd want to keep hiding them or remove them. If you work in a more "liberal" industry, then this is much less of an issue. Good luck, though.

[General Mayhem]

There is no good reason to get a tattoo in my opinion, or nothing that significant that you need to ink it on your skin.

If there is something that means that much to you, compartmentalize it and use it to motivate you.

I don't even like seeing tattoos in honor of friends or family that you might have lost. Religious tattoos are the worst.

If that stuff meant anything to you it would be in your heart everyday. You don't need a tattoo to remember it. The only reason you get that tattooed is so everyone else can see that you are religious or that your dog died.

The worst example I saw was when I knew a gorgeous 19 year old who got a religious tattoo after she tore her ACL because her cunt roommate (who has a bunch of stupid tattoos) pressured her into it on impulse. She never would have gotten it otherwise, and that sucks because she was a natural beauty.

In my mind that's just a reflection of the bigger problem. There are too many temptations available to women, but they lack the impulse control to stay away.

[kosko]

Decades? These tattoos will all start looking like shit when this women hit 30 and the skin starts to fray and sag, once they pop out little spawns it's game over. Literally a ticking time bomb for them.

It's all hamster. Look how these women pose in their Instagram photos. That goofy little arm pose where they angle it where the ink has to be shown is extremely tacky. It's no different then a new dog or a engagement ring photo. A new tattoo offers women a reason to attention whore and bait for attention. See how eager any girl is to show her new tat, and see how other women are just as eager to laud her on it and say empty stuff to saw how good the art is.

Like these things will be hula hoops and Pokemon cards in due time. Once you get some loser on CNN or MSNBC News all tatted up hosting a show it will be rock bottom for a already in crisis fad.

If people were honest about it and stay true to the "I don't give a fuck" attitude and just admit it's a sweeping trend I wouldn't mind it. But the inability for people to openly say it when the majority of people have them is telling of their own insecurities which led them to trend hop in the first place (not all of course, but the majority).

Worst tattoo I've seen this week is some broad had her star sign tatted. She was a Aries or a Taurus, I forget and it was poorly done and looked like she had Fallopian Tubes doodled on her side. I trolled her and said that she looked like a sketch in the science books in the chapter everybody glanced at when nobody was looking. She was offended but I told her that what it looked like strait up. Lol. If they bark back if I have any tats I troll them more and say I have a tattoo on my cock and I will happily show them. Lulz. Basic bitches.

[Dr. Howard]

(05-26-2014 08:27 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 11:17 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 09:20 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Tattoos on both men and women are major red flags for me.

I wouldn't hire someone with visible tattoos.

and this is why I have worn long sleeves from the interview to at least through my first two performance reviews in past jobs. Once I've established a good rep the short sleeves and tattoos come out!!

You might be shooting yourself in the foot as far as promotion to upper management, depending on your industry. Many people still see tattoos in a negative light, and those people are heavily concentrated in older age brackets and in "conservative" industries like banking/finance. If you're a career-ladder type, I hope your CEO, upper management, and HR are all young and that you don't work in a conservative industry, because otherwise, fairly or not, you're raising all kinds of red flags (example, "this guy doesn't think of the long term consequences of his actions") with those tattoos in many of their minds. If you fall under that category, these folks exert power over your advancement in life, so you'd want to keep hiding them or remove them. If you work in a more "liberal" industry, then this is much less of an issue. Good luck, though.

I work for myself now so its not even on my radar anymore. I work in a 'conservative' field though and separate my business by running a bit of a 'counter culture' on purpose.

People fly virgin airlines and jet blue either because they don't like normal airlines or they think they are too cool for them. Scion and Mini are brands of cars for people who want to buy an average car but feel like they are 'alternative' I'm like a virgin airlines in my industry and I will take the money of people who both need a legitimate alternative and just those who want to be cool.

[Constitution45]

Important sign of the times here. Tattoos always symbolised the criminal underclass or the rough types of men who worked on sea or in the Army. By having a tattoo they are in effect trying to relate themselves to this class of rogue male. Interesting, I don't have a dislike for tattoos, but on women it doesn't look good.