[The Beast1]

I can only become sexual in my game if i am 100% there. And by 100% i'm talking about a billion factors that contribute to the combined body language, wit, and all around attitude to pull it off.

It's strange, but i'd call it a manic stage. I wouldn't be surprised if i'm a bit bipolar.

Now, you sound a bit like me. If i'm not firing on all cylinders, then i come off creepy. If i'm eating well and working out daily i can pull it of simply because i feel good. It's almost like when a girl says "It makes me feel sexy!" I feel "sexy" after i've hit the gym. I feel like god and can get away with anything. My charisma is fleeting but shit is it awesome when i do have it.

[Basil Ransom]

One thing I've encountered in several girls recently is like 'regret rape.' I get the girls talking or doing sexual stuff and they're fine with it. But then three days later when I text them they don't respond. When I press the matter and ask why, they say they think I only want sex. It's happened from talking on the phone, from one date and from three dates.

It's the old rock and a hard place - if you don't sexualize she gets bored, if you do she feels like a whore as soon as she's away from you.

If you have a high libido, it can help to beat off before a date so that you don't maniacally focus the conversation about sex, and can pace the conversation for what's tactically appropriate.

[AneroidOcean]

(10-29-2013 12:01 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

One thing I've encountered in several girls recently is like 'regret rape.' I get the girls talking or doing sexual stuff and they're fine with it. But then three days later when I text them they don't respond. When I press the matter and ask why, they say they think I only want sex. It's happened from talking on the phone, from one date and from three dates.

It's the old rock and a hard place - if you don't sexualize she gets bored, if you do she feels like a whore as soon as she's away from you.

If you have a high libido, it can help to beat off before a date so that you don't maniacally focus the conversation about sex, and can pace the conversation for what's tactically appropriate.

Get your comfort/disinterest ratio up higher. She is seeing you as too thirsty/cold and she'll feel like a slut afterwards.

[Basil Ransom]

Yeah thats the solution, its just these girls rarely show interest in substantive conversation. I need to find topics that are mutually interesting... Will experiment with talk about travel.

And FWIW, horny =/= thirsty. Girls are creeped out by horniness when it's solely directed at them. But if it's clear you're a horny guy and your lust isn't limited to her, then they don't see you as a loser, just a horndog.

[Giovonny]

(10-27-2013 09:21 PM)freewheeler Wrote:  

I find how you say things is much more important than what you say, ex. you can sexualize a conversation without even talking about anything remotely sexual.

I agree.

We can "sexualize" in many different ways..

With direct language (often the worst way because its too forward)
With out body language
With our eyes
With our vocal tonality
With our conversational style
With our "vibe"

(10-27-2013 09:21 PM)freewheeler Wrote:  

If you pair this with some playful challenges, teasing and qualifying, you should feel the sexual tension rise pretty rapidly and build. Make sure to be coming from a frame of mind in which you're just being a social, fun-loving guy that's looking to maximize his self-amusement, nothing more and nothing less.

This is a great post. I agree with everything, try to use these methods, and was even reminded of a few things with this post.

Very well said!

The way in which we lead a conversation can also "sexualize" the interaction.

It's like dancing. If we can properly lead her, she will likely allow herself to be led. It's a dance of dominance and submission. A playful dance. It's all verbal but just allowing herself to be led by you in conversation can make her want to continue to be lead by you.

(10-27-2013 09:21 PM)freewheeler Wrote:  

I've had plenty of success sexualizing conversations this way without overtly discussing anything sexual

Yes. It's the subtleties. "Reading between the lines". Communicating "in code". Saying it without saying "it".

There was a great episode of "Sex in The City" about this.. One of the girls asked another girl for a threesome and it was all done "in code". She never mentioned sex, it was all "double endentres" and eye ball langauge and clever wording.

(10-27-2013 09:21 PM)freewheeler Wrote:  

This has been my experience with university aged girls.

Mine too.

I think these girls can often be easier and more susceptible to this stuff. They just wanna have fun.

[Ingocnito]

Great topic. I've sort of nonchalantly been dropping double entendres at the gym I work out at in drive-by fashion because I really don't care to game hard at the gym when I'm in a timed routine bustin' my ass.

I'm there to work out so I minimize time spent talking, and I'm usually drenched in sweat head to toe with in 40 min. of arriving.

Two cute girls (7&8) were using the decline barbell bench and I had chatted with them before, I said;"Oh, it's the witches again teamed up using the next piece of equipment I wanted to use." One's response was I could "work in if I wanted."

I looked down at my shirt and said;"well it would be like a *slip n' slide for the two of you* so I'll just slither over there for now.." Ever since that comment these two girls tend to proximate themselves frequently near me throughout the gym at least a few times intentionally while I'm there, so it's time to open one or both of them more aggressively soon.

Another 8.5 who is a personal trainer there, who I've spit some game at and dropped a little bait to in the past recently said;"Oh, what did you bother coming in here for, I haven't seen you around.." I said;"I came here for your tension and your weight, there's *plenty of tension already though*..." Then I walked over and started on a machine.

Sexualizing the convo provides great tension relief when done subtly.