[Keyser Söze]

(04-25-2012 02:42 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

I voted Paris simply for one reason:

My ex girlfriend was Parisian - and she told me that "game doesn't exist" over there. There are no cold approaches and everything is done through social circles and that there are no "one night stands" and no "dating", you are either with someone, or you're not. I want to see you shatter this Roosh. I believe in you.

Also - I know its not on the list presented - but sometime in the future - why not NYC? There are so many varying opinions on the city, and a lot of people would love to hear your unique take on it. Plus a LOT of your fans are from here, me included, and would be willing to show you around

Your ex is full of shit. Over ten million people live in Paris and suburbs, and something like 5 times that number visit every year.
There is the potential to fuck every single goddamn type of pussy in the world in Paris, it just depends on how you interpret life and play the hand that is dealt you.

[zarzuelazen]

I want to see Roosh banging some French hotties, and then I'll finally be impressed with this game stuff.

Actually I want to get some practice in banging French hotties, so I'm planning to go back and stay at 'Eva's Backpackers' in Kings Cross, Sydney again, where all the French dudes and gals hang out. Next time a French hottie walks into the common room at night naked... it's bang time

[Bad Hussar]

I vote for Scandinavia. Specifically: Stockholm, Sweden. Interested to see if you have a better time there than Copenhagen. People on here agree that Denmark is rubish, but go on to say Sweden is awesome. Am interested to get views on how they can be so different.

For ease of girls:
Probably Romania/Moldova. Also, is close to the Ukraine and the Summer parties on the Black Sea coast.

For an interesting city:
Berlin. Apparently it's relatively cheap, and popular with creative types.

[chochemonger1]

Roosh, I think you have 2 real options for June. Do what the wise kamaki said and go to a 2nd tier czech republic city or romania and bulgaria. Then in July find a beach resort in a greek island or the black sea. As for a greek island try Paros or Corfu.

[Caligula]

(04-25-2012 08:59 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 02:42 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

I voted Paris simply for one reason:

My ex girlfriend was Parisian - and she told me that "game doesn't exist" over there. There are no cold approaches and everything is done through social circles and that there are no "one night stands" and no "dating", you are either with someone, or you're not. I want to see you shatter this Roosh. I believe in you.

Also - I know its not on the list presented - but sometime in the future - why not NYC? There are so many varying opinions on the city, and a lot of people would love to hear your unique take on it. Plus a LOT of your fans are from here, me included, and would be willing to show you around

Your ex is full of shit. Over ten million people live in Paris and suburbs, and something like 5 times that number visit every year.
There is the potential to fuck every single goddamn type of pussy in the world in Paris, it just depends on how you interpret life and play the hand that is dealt you.

Yeah. I've always bombed in Paris but friends of mine who live there seem to get plenty of ONS action. One of them approaches girls on trains, clubs, the street and gets a lot of action.

People who have this idea of either being with someone or not just show that they haven't given much thought to how seduction happens.

[Roosh]

I'm starting to lean against Romania/Moldovan cities. I want to meet those girls while they are on the beach and ready to bang.

I've worked very hard this winter and spring. I don't want to work until the fall.

[Deb Auchery]

Heard the Romanian resorts are a bit grim, but can't say for sure

[Greek kamaki]

(04-26-2012 10:26 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Roosh, I think you have 2 real options for June. Do what the wise kamaki said and go to a 2nd tier czech republic city or romania and bulgaria. Then in July find a beach resort in a greek island or the black sea. As for a greek island try Paros or Corfu.

Not Paros.Corfu is O.K.Paros is mostly populated by Greek tourists and some Italians in August.It is very similar to Mykonos in architecture but Mykonos attracts a much better crew.(though there is huge gay community there and many nose up fashion models and designers).Mykonos which is only two hours from Paros by ship is also more expensive and has similar qulaity beaches(top).You can get laid in Mykonos although it is not the best island for this.
Corfu is visited by English(heavy stag parties in Kavos,and lots of loved pairs in Sidari,Kassiopi(it is considered to be the beach of love) with Scandinavian crew in main city beaches and many Czech women in the west North(Panteleimonas,Aharavi).In general Corfu is a good place to get laid although there has been a decline of tourism recently due to preference of Northern tourists to hotter climates found on Rhodes Kreta where temperatures can reach 45 degrees and there is never rain the summer.(I never got it why English prefer the African style temperatures which make their skin burn badly).

What is interesting with Corfu is that because lots of hotel construction took place in the '80s in order to accomodate the hords of northern tourists who were supposed to come in waves the agencies started to advertise in eastern block countries when they failed to attract the masses of Westerners they hoped for.As a result the island is heavily visited by Czechs and other nice Slavs with the beneficial results for the local male population.
The same happens in nearby island Lefkada(also huge Czech and Slovak community) and Zakynthos and in some degree with Kefalonia(which was made famous after Mandolin Corelli film after which even Madonna visited the island).

n general Ionian islands(especially Lefkada with capital city Nydri),Corfu and Zakynthos(with lots of English stag parties in Kalamas) are very good places for pick up.(according to what interests you).They are in league of Rhodos,Kos and Kreta(the latter are also visited by hords of Russian tourists in the last two years another huge potential source).

[oldnemesis]

(04-26-2012 10:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm starting to lean against Romania/Moldovan cities. I want to meet those girls while they are on the beach and ready to bang.
I've worked very hard this winter and spring. I don't want to work until the fall.

Then think again. Romania is similar to Ukraine on that matter. Pros:
- The majority of young people speak English (more than in Poland), so there is less the language barrier.
- More people traveled around as they have less visa requirements (most countries in Europe allow Romanians visa-free using the national ID) so the travel topics are definitely hot here.
- The girls are attractive and dress in the same tight revealing clothing as in Ukraine.
- The nightlife in Bucharest is concentrated in the city center making the logictics easier.
- Slightly cheaper than Ukraine.

However there are some issues as well:
- No hookup culture, same as in Ukraine. Every Romanian I know has a GF and he met her either at work, or at university or through the social circle. Talking to the people at streets is unusual.
- Romanian girls drink very little. I remember this was a concern for you in Ukraine, it is worse here. Even on the company parties where it is all safe, and every guy drinks a lot, and it is all paid, I have never seen a Romanian girl having more than one drink. A lot do not drink at all. Ukrainian girls drink much more. Romanian girls smoke more than Ukrainians, but it doesn't get you anywhere.
- Pretty much every girl I talked to here had concerns about being "used", which to them means getting fucked and not getting something out of it. How this was in Poland?
- There is much more diversity in Ukraine in terms of faces and shapes. A typical Romanian girl is a short, slender brunette with dark eyes, and if you find out this is not your type, you're screwed.
- The majority of my attempts failed by breaking the "friend wall" - meaning as soon as you left yourself out of the "friend zone" and started escalating, you're done with her.
- I've met a few local players and they seem to do the same I did in Ukraine - having a lot of different, non-intersecting social circles in multiple cities, and utilizing the social exposition they got. None of them ever got a ONS with a Romanian chick in Romania, which didn't surprise me as the lack of heavy alcohol consumption is not helping.

Sure I'd love you to hack Romania for us, but you might be disappointed.

[Lika]

(04-26-2012 02:43 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Sure I'd love you to hack Romania for us, but you might be disappointed.

I agree with olnemesis about Romania (been there a few times already).

Romanians being brunettes, they prefer blond guys, like in Brazil.

They hate their Gypsy community and by extension don't like dark skinned guys.

You will have a much better time in Croatia (they like blacks and dark guys) or even Bulgaria.

If you want Western girls, you should try Sweden or Norway. I'm pretty sure you will not like French girls (as crazy as Argentinian girls in my opinion) and they don't speak good English, unlike Eastern Europeans.

But in my opinion, you should stay at least one or two years in a Russian speaking country to improve this language. Uzbekistan is cheap and has good nightlife and beautiful Russian girls.

[PUA_Rachacha]

My vote is for Scandinavia, specifically Stockholm, Helsinki, and Oslo, as you need to complete the flag (you already got Denmark and Iceland), and I think the beauty of the girls might redeem your shitty experience in Denmark.

I'm biased, however, as my employer is thinking about shipping me to Stockholm to work out of its office there for a year. So I definitely want a Bang! Sweden edition to ensure that I fuck primo pussy while I'm there.

Lastly, you'll be getting almost midnight sun with warm temperatures while there, so the nightlife will be surreal. The cost is prohibitive though...

[Roosh]

oldnem makes a strong case against Romania. I haven't read reports here that it's close to being easy.

Quote:

Pretty much every girl I talked to here had concerns about being "used", which to them means getting fucked and not getting something out of it. How this was in Poland?

Absolutely no problems with that. I never got interrogated there or girls complaining about foreign guys and sex tourists.

[TheBulldozer]

Oldnem is largely right. Romania focuses on social circle game and the girls hardly drink. But inside that social circle...look out. It is full of beautiful pussy to beat up. If I was going for a long time(5--8 months), I'd head to Bucharest while school is in session. With it being summer and all, Bucharest isn't as populated with gorgeous women as it usually is. They have either gone to constantia for the summer or have gone back home.

Go to France dude. I've lived in Paris and in the Alps, and goddamn it's beautiful. The food ethereal, the women take care of themselves, and the country is beautiful. You may not bang as much, but you'll be so preoccupied with exploring the culture that you'll hardly care.

[Lika]

Here is a funny post about a Russian third tier city, another industrial shithole I guess: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/fo...ost1213476

[Roosh]

(04-26-2012 06:07 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Here is a funny post about a Russian third tier city, another industrial shithole I guess: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/fo...ost1213476

I hate to say it but the sex tourists are way deeper than us in finding undiscovered places. Second tier is somewhat new to us but they're already on third and even fourth tier shitholes to get pristine pussy.

[Dreher]

You should come to Serbia. Guys have no game here and chicks are quite good looking.

[speakeasy]

(04-25-2012 02:00 AM)richardfahl Wrote:  

Paris is a shithole and will be a absolute waste of time for you Roosh.
It's the most overrated city on earth.
Too expensive also.
Why France has so a good rep on this forum? It's the shittest country on earth
Girls are among the worst looking in Europe with Portugal and the UK.
If I were you, I would hit South America again , especially Brazil!

While I couldn't disagree more about Paris being a shithole(?!?), I do agree that French women are nothing to write home about. Not that there aren't good-looking French women, but I just didn't find them to be any better than any other place. Other than Laetitia Casta, how many French models can you think of off the top of your head? I think France is a place people go to for the food, wine and culture. I don't hear of too many people traveling to France to get laid. That's probably for a reason.

[TheBulldozer]

(04-26-2012 06:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 06:07 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Here is a funny post about a Russian third tier city, another industrial shithole I guess: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/fo...ost1213476

I hate to say it but the sex tourists are way deeper than us in finding undiscovered places. Second tier is somewhat new to us but they're already on third and even fourth tier shitholes to get pristine pussy.

But at what point am I willing to trade an enjoyable place to live for a hunt for pussy? I feel like the opportunity cost to live in Epic Industrial Shithole to bang a 9 is too great, when I could live in a place I really enjoyed and bang 7's.

[the_conductor]

Roosh, you can also try asking Innuendo for input. Cool Romanian dude I met.

[Lika]

(04-26-2012 06:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 06:07 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Here is a funny post about a Russian third tier city, another industrial shithole I guess: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/fo...ost1213476

I hate to say it but the sex tourists are way deeper than us in finding undiscovered places. Second tier is somewhat new to us but they're already on third and even fourth tier shitholes to get pristine pussy.

Well Roosh, you don't go to a country to live there permanently, so you're a tourist.

And your main goal is to have sex with local girls, so you're a sex tourist, by my definition.

So am I.

The post I referred to above (and most posts on the thread discussing which Ukrainian and Russian cities are best) is about a guy who is seducing local non-pro girls in medium-sized Russian towns to sleep with them, for free, just like you.

The site of the post above is not all about prostitution

[bacan]

(04-26-2012 06:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 06:07 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Here is a funny post about a Russian third tier city, another industrial shithole I guess: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/fo...ost1213476

I hate to say it but the sex tourists are way deeper than us in finding undiscovered places. Second tier is somewhat new to us but they're already on third and even fourth tier shitholes to get pristine pussy.

Sorry if this is a ridiculous/insulting question, but after reading that post, how are we different than the "sex tourists" and why is their community different than ours? When I hear sex tourists, I usually think of guys looking for cheap prostitutes but that guy is talking about seducing, approaches, everything.

Edit: reading more, this guy seems to be a minority and those forums are heavily focused on p4p like I thought

[K-man]

(04-26-2012 05:38 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

My vote is for Scandinavia, specifically Stockholm, Helsinki, and Oslo, as you need to complete the flag (you already got Denmark and Iceland), and I think the beauty of the girls might redeem your shitty experience in Denmark.

If it's just for Swedish girls, those can be found in the beaches of Europe for a fraction of the cost.
Greek can probably advise which Greek island exactly is their favorite, and I advise from personal experience that there are hordes of them in Sunny Beach in Bulgaria. There are two night clubs that are especially good for hitting on Scandinavian pussy, the first is called the Viking and here is a typical night's crowd there:



There other is Lazur, I think every Wednesday is Scandinavian Foam Party there, but plenty of Scandi girls every other day of the week during beach season:


The alcohol is probably 20% of the cost in Sweden, and so are likely the hotels.

Disclaimer: Plenty of cocks as well at these places. You will have to compete against drunken sweaty dudes for your pussy.

[Lumiere]

(04-24-2012 07:46 PM)Twister Wrote:  

I think you should spend the entire month going back and forth on the Stockholm-Helsinki Ferry. I hear mad things from friends who have been on it.

Only been on it once. Picked up my Sri Lankan flag (not an easy flag to get in Sri Lanka itself).

Time from meet to lay was about 15 mins.

Am suprised there is not a separate thread about this bearing in mind the stories I am hearing.

[Lumiere]

(04-25-2012 02:42 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

My ex girlfriend was Parisian - and she told me that "game doesn't exist" over there. There are no cold approaches and everything is done through social circles and that there are no "one night stands"

You ex does not know what she is talking about. I used to live in Paris and I had a one night stand with a French chick 3 or 4 days after I arrived.

Also had one night stands with Slovakian, Swedish and Greek chicks when I was there (they lived there too. they were not tourists).

Every single one was a cold approach. I used zero social circle game.

As for Roosh, without speaking French I imagine he would struggle with the local girls (especially Parisians) but might have a good shot with tourist chicks of which there will be plenty.

He would also have trouble getting into some night spots. I went out with an American girl when I was there who spoke absolutely fluent french because she worked there as a nanny.

Sometimes when we would go to bars the doormen would let me in but refuse her entry and when we asked why she was told "because you are American and you have no class".

Dont say I did not warn you.

[trainwreck]

(04-27-2012 05:15 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Disclaimer: Plenty of cocks as well at these places. You will have to compete against drunken sweaty dudes for your pussy.

Did anyone ever try and actually hit these islands suited up? I was wondering if that would in any way help you since the chicks will be drunk as fuck themselves most of the time.

Either way I agree. Southern Europe it is. Definitely was a lot of fun and had tons of Scandinavian and Russian tourists that were down to fuck.