[scorpio]

here's the scorpio run-down...

you posed this topic b/c you believed you had a chance with this girl. upon feedback from the crew, you realized you had no chance.

my take is that it was over before it even began. you were just that ho's prop to raise that her value in the eye of her rich trick.

[WestCoast]

I have said multiple times I realize I had 0 chance. I am just asking very specifically what response you give to that comment. Never gotten that 1 b4.

Again I have no belief I had a shot in hell and want to know how you deal with that kind of comment.

[scorpio]

I made this one up just right now.

Her: you failed the test?
Me: wut, are you a professor or something? since when are PhDs tricking themselves out to 80 year old men?

[WestCoast]

Hmm so you're saying I should has reframed post my shitty aloof response. I was under the impression saying "cool another time" was terrible game?

I like that response to the failed test part though

[King Solomon]

she was playing games. let her rot.

homey dont play dat.

[scorpio]

I guess this is like my once-every-couple-month contribution to game theory or so.

Listen, you're dead with this chick. You might as well blow her ass out.

[WestCoast]

Ha all women play games. I'm simply trying to shoot higher and have dealt with an exponential amount of shit tests. This one was the first where I blanked in a while.

I know she's blown out, just the first weird comment I could not think of a solution to. Not sure why all the hostility, I have no interest in getting oneitis or any of that crap.

[scorpio]

Aiming higher is a noble goal, but as many here will tell ya', the road is not linearly harder, but exponentially harder. There are so many facets to this beyond witty lines and harsh put-downs.

I've been dealing with these cunts pretty much all my life, but I'm always having to climb the steep peak. Never stops.

[WestCoast]

Yeah it's almost like maxing game to get a few notches up is not worth the effort since I can make mistakes and close a 6 easily. The counter point, however, is if I'm not trying to shoot higher I won't be improving.

[King Solomon]

"you failed the test"

"well, you failed my test about 2 hours ago, so ain't we both content?"


let her hamster wonder why...

[MikeCF]

I would have said, "Oh, man, that guy bought me drinks. Was that his way of saying he wants to watch us together?"

[ManAbout]

(04-22-2012 03:02 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

I made this one up just right now.

Her: you failed the test?
Me: wut, are you a professor or something? since when are PhDs tricking themselves out to 80 year old men?

That comes across as jealousy and bitterness. Not the cool, above the fray alpa dude.

[WestCoast]

Like it Mike.

This situation has turned good already, the dude is helping me get an interview on the buyside. Gotta continue that network!

But yeah i've run through all of it i think the 3 error answers would have been the following:
1. Use mike's answer for the beginning when i went with her to dance floor
2. After the weird escort comment I believe there is no "good" response but I should have said something like "Cool he can help pay for your trips to come visit me"
3. I should have taken up more girls into our group to show i really wasn't "with them" allowing him to lead. I was too busy seeing how this guys game was and should have just rolled with the girls eye raping me and bringing them into the convos.

[Razor]

(04-22-2012 02:08 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Agreed. There was no shot.

More curious to see if anyone ran into that sort of comment/shit test saying she's with a dude for $$ only to see you squirm. Wondering if my response of "it's cool we'll kick it anthr day" is the right move.

@ soup. Agree weird but what's a good comeback I am pretty decent at shit tests but that was a WTF do I say to this, ESP since I had to sift out if it was a lie and come up with something to reframe etc. tough

Also not a lie the guy had cash, I was able to sift thru and realize he ran a hedge fund for a while, so I played the fake beta "I'm a dorky engineer" to grab his biz card and hopefully get a contact to make more money, ha. But yeah back to topic, wondering how u reframe a comment like that one that sank me hard

A lot of the high roller hedge fund types pay escorts in arrangements like this even if they might have a little game, it's more common than you think. The guy knew he was banging her that night so he probably took care of you as a friendly gesture. I remember even Roosh got duped by a pro in South America.

Just an experienced pro nothing to get worked up over.

[WestCoast]

Hilarious.

She asked to go out with me to "sushi at 8pm tonight" i've now said i just ate dinner ignoring this and we're now having drinks. I am on the fence on being a total dick and standing her up or going to see her try to game me again. This has been quite fun seeing the crappy text messages as she tries to coax me into buying her dinner.

Actually, on the fence is now stand her up and go to the dance club across the street if she gets confused/hurt she'll blow up my phone.

Whelp just got another message saying "on my way" which i wont be responding to this can't get much funnier. I'll throw up the alpha female text exchange when all is said and done. considering microphoning this bat shit crazy bitch if i end up seeing her as well.

[iknowexactly]

First off, good on anyone who OPENS THEIR MOUTH and tries.

What's interesting is the guy may be a freak outlier who can blow 10 k per month on a chick.

Someone wouldn't usually do that unless they have, I don't know, 10-20 million in the bank?

In any event, that's a LOT from my limited experience so you could have known
it might be bullshit.

Also, it sounds like the guy might be a super tuned abundance mentality character
with freakishly good natural game, sort of a natural guru, as well as adequate money,
who really didn't care if she fucked you as another is about 39 minutes later available .

[WestCoast]

God damn. I owe one player on this forum a lot of credit after I walk through.

I just left her "time share", as paid for all my drinks and I got a bj out of it. Dude was a "sugar daddy".

Basically all I did was call her out on being a sugar baby without being a dick, built comfort and then just went from there. I am such a dumbass or doubting my own assessment.

Forget the comeback believe mine was correct, aloof on sugar baby's because they feel comfortable around you for not judging them!

Fml have work in 3 hours. Out.

[joehoya]

They were just playing you. Here is the deal:

Rich older guys don't just date young hotties because they are hot. They also date them because it raises their stature. Her rejection of you re validated his manhood and dominance. You were nothing more than a sexual aid, like lingerie, for the guy. Buying your drinks, letting you dance around with his girl, all the time KNOWING that she was going home with him and NOT you was a super turn on for him. Here is what you gave the guy:

1) You validated the fact that his girl was very hot.
2) Her rejecting you validated to him that she will chose him (older guy with money) over some young hot stud.

It was an ultimate display of dominance/alpha behavior on his part. HE KNEW SHE WAS HIS PROPERTY. HE KNEW that he has so much control over her that he can let some younger (presumably better looking) dude dance with her in a club WITH ZERO CONCERN that you could take her from him.

Now keep in mind that this was just a game on their part. Who knows what would happen if you met her in a supermarket or on the street, when she was not "supposed" to play the role of cock tease?

[WestCoast]

Ha. I have not felt better in my life, at least some of his money was just spent on me having fun with his girl! Well I am more tired than the hamster in her head so that's not cool tho

[WestCoast]

Gaming Sugar Babies!

Here is the exchange I gave one player (Giovanny) the full down low of the situation and here is what ended up happening, (Gio also gets the full text thread if he wants and words said during banter same with one other dude on this forum who alrdy knows who he is) not giving it all out here but here's the jist.

8am: Me: Hey cool hanging out last night, still in town? Your friend was cool to pay for the night
10am: Her: Yeah in town, wit you upto (I Notice this as her trying to spit game at me with fake typos)
1pm: Me: XXXX, can join me
2pm: Her: Just got done with XXXX, thanks though
4pm: Her: What are you up to tonight? Want togo get XXX? (notice typos)
5pm: Me: Sure meet at XXXX at 8pm
Her: ok !7 (notice typo)
Her: On my way! (dead giveaway she has an iPhone and messed up the fake bad text messages, also assume she will be "late")
(some usual player stuff)
Show up late to place

Banter begins:
Her: Late huh?
Me: Yeah busy, that guy was real nice to me last night was he straight?
Her: Yea (head comes down, slight look of contempt/disgust)
Me: Ha. Cool, bet you don't do that often (call it out immediately but question the validity of it to make her esteem increase)
Her: Yeah... i don't first time out in XXXX
Me: Sure gotta be discreet...
(Banter)
Her: Tired, lets take off
Me: Sure i'll walk you
(Banter)

Inside place:
(Banter)
Her: XXX to my place huh you do this alot?
Me: XXXX
Me: Here watch this XXX
Her: Pouring drinks + getting us food
(banter)
Escalate... Stop before getting heated
(banter)
Escalate again, stop mid way
(banter)
Escalate head to room

Posts above explain i only went to 3rd base....

Next day:
Her: Can't make it to XXX
4 hours later: I'm XXXXX see you XXX at XXX
Her: Lets play by ear
Me: (banter comment)
Her:

........ Think thats enough for a public forum but all i know is I'm glad i went with my instincts. Confidence up 50x.

[soup]

(04-24-2012 11:33 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Gaming Sugar Babies!

Here is the exchange I gave one player (Giovanny) the full down low of the situation and here is what ended up happening, (Gio also gets the full text thread if he wants and words said during banter same with one other dude on this forum who alrdy knows who he is) not giving it all out here but here's the jist.

8am: Me: Hey cool hanging out last night, still in town? Your friend was cool to pay for the night
10am: Her: Yeah in town, wit you upto (I Notice this as her trying to spit game at me with fake typos)
1pm: Me: XXXX, can join me
2pm: Her: Just got done with XXXX, thanks though
4pm: Her: What are you up to tonight? Want togo get XXX? (notice typos)
5pm: Me: Sure meet at XXXX at 8pm
Her: ok !7 (notice typo)
Her: On my way! (dead giveaway she has an iPhone and messed up the fake bad text messages, also assume she will be "late")
(some usual player stuff)
Show up late to place

Banter begins:
Her: Late huh?
Me: Yeah busy, that guy was real nice to me last night was he straight?
Her: Yea (head comes down, slight look of contempt/disgust)
Me: Ha. Cool, bet you don't do that often (call it out immediately but question the validity of it to make her esteem increase)
Her: Yeah... i don't first time out in XXXX
Me: Sure gotta be discreet...
(Banter)
Her: Tired, lets take off
Me: Sure i'll walk you
(Banter)

Inside place:
(Banter)
Her: XXX to my place huh you do this alot?
Me: XXXX
Me: Here watch this XXX
Her: Pouring drinks + getting us food
(banter)
Escalate... Stop before getting heated
(banter)
Escalate again, stop mid way
(banter)
Escalate head to room

Posts above explain i only went to 3rd base....

Next day:
Her: Can't make it to XXX
4 hours later: I'm XXXXX see you XXX at XXX
Her: Lets play by ear
Me: (banter comment)
Her:

........ Think thats enough for a public forum but all i know is I'm glad i went with my instincts. Confidence up 50x.

Go for the bang!

[WestCoast]

Ha, I left this blank for the forum I am a little peeved some cats on here think I am an average chump. The cool cats on here can shoot me a PM on exact words I used and the banter (I'm a tad crazy so I mic'd up the entire convo). Was hilarious, fun, and I am more confident than ever.

Gotta love Dale Carnegie "I'd make the same decisions as you if I lived your exact life, I am not to judge a soul for their actions"

[Giovonny]

Sounds like everything turned out pretty good. It was a little bit of a tricky situation but you handled it great. Mostly, what I liked is that you kept your "frame", you controlled most of the interaction, you assumed the lead and power position. You didn't give her any power. I think that's a big key - don't get caught up in playing their little bullshit games. Your confidence and social skills carried you through successfully!

All in all, I know it was a great learning experience for you and your playboy powers are only growing stronger...

Looking forward to some Friday day game.

[WestCoast]

Haha thanks man, I think we'll get along very well. I saw some holes in the game I used but I'll give u the down low in person. The chat before definitely helped as I realized showing up and eating would have been a loss, girls hate eating infront of men they purposely eat less