[Dsmash]

Two quick hits..
1) I usually do a two day reply time on any digits I procure, which works great for every day but Wednesday. It always ends up that you're either hitting her up early, late, or on a prime weekend night.. All of which aren't ideal. What do you guys recommend for a good call-back frame for getting Wednesday digits?

2) Any good date ideas for under-21 girls? Anything with alcohol involved is always at the top of the list. Hookah and fro-yo have worked in the past. It seems like these girls are also more amendable to just 'hanging out'

-D

[Samseau]

(04-19-2012 08:27 AM)Dsmash Wrote:  

Two quick hits..
1) I usually do a two day reply time on any digits I procure, which works great for every day but Wednesday. It always ends up that you're either hitting her up early, late, or on a prime weekend night.. All of which aren't ideal. What do you guys recommend for a good call-back frame for getting Wednesday digits?

2) Any good date ideas for under-21 girls? Anything with alcohol involved is always at the top of the list. Hookah and fro-yo have worked in the past. It seems like these girls are also more amendable to just 'hanging out'

-D

For Wednesday, usually I call the following Sunday evening.


For under 21, just go back to your place for a movie, or take her somewhere fun and free like an art museum.

[Surreyman]

Most girls I date are under 21, and my basic first date strategy for London girls is lunch at a Japanese cafe in Chinatown(make a joke about the irony, escalate kino with chopsticks, DHV by knowing about Japanese food), and then wander round central London. The last part I just wing it, and play by ear. Maybe hit some pubs, maybe walk around Hyde Park.

Samseau's strategy sounds legit, as well. Back to yours for a movie is a great excuse (young girls need these). Unless you're super beta (or she's a retard), the fact she came back to yours means she's up for it, in my experience.

[gringochileno]

(04-19-2012 10:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

For Wednesday, usually I call the following Sunday evening.

I've run into this problem too. Wednesday's tricky. I haven't had a good response rate when I wait 4 days--I seem to lose momentum when I wait that long. Texting in the early afternoon on Friday seems to be a little better for me but I'd be open to other suggestions.

It might have something to do with the level of investment the girl has. If you talked for a while and made a good connection or kissed her, she might not cool off so much once Sunday comes around. If you only met her briefly and got her digits you might need to hit her up sooner to keep the momentum going.

[Dsmash]

(04-19-2012 11:56 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 10:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

For Wednesday, usually I call the following Sunday evening.

I've run into this problem too. Wednesday's tricky. I haven't had a good response rate when I wait 4 days--I seem to lose momentum when I wait that long. Texting in the early afternoon on Friday seems to be a little better for me but I'd be open to other suggestions.

It might have something to do with the level of investment the girl has. If you talked for a while and made a good connection or kissed her, she might not cool off so much once Sunday comes around. If you only met her briefly and got her digits you might need to hit her up sooner to keep the momentum going.

Good points.. I'm more prone to wait until Sunday rolls around, risking losing momentum vs. seeming too into it. These things are always totally anecdotal anyways, until you start using spreadsheets of course.

[gringochileno]

(04-19-2012 09:08 PM)Dsmash Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 11:56 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 10:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

For Wednesday, usually I call the following Sunday evening.

I've run into this problem too. Wednesday's tricky. I haven't had a good response rate when I wait 4 days--I seem to lose momentum when I wait that long. Texting in the early afternoon on Friday seems to be a little better for me but I'd be open to other suggestions.

It might have something to do with the level of investment the girl has. If you talked for a while and made a good connection or kissed her, she might not cool off so much once Sunday comes around. If you only met her briefly and got her digits you might need to hit her up sooner to keep the momentum going.

Good points.. I'm more prone to wait until Sunday rolls around, risking losing momentum vs. seeming too into it. These things are always totally anecdotal anyways, until you start using spreadsheets of course.

The plural of anecdote is data. Of course I don't have a spreadsheet or anything but I think I've tried enough phone numbers with each strategy that my observation of a low response rate from Sunday first contacts is unlikely to be due to chance. You're right though, I probably don't have enough information to say with much confidence that Friday afternoon is any better. You'd probably need rigorous data collection and a sample size of over 50 numbers to tell them apart statistically.

[Samseau]

First of all,

When you should call a woman is highly dependent on the culture you're living in. Where I live, waiting until Sunday is no big deal. If a girl is into you, she'll wait.

But this is the Northeast. Things are different here than say, California. Perhaps it isn't best to wait four days there.


I give advice, and expect people to know that it's just what has worked for me, but since we're all different we'll all have to use different strategies for success.

[at350zguyy]

shopping works for under 21 year olds as well. it's even easier to escalate with them this way.

[Roosh]

Wednesday is indeed tricky, but like discussed waiting for Sunday is the best bet. You kind of have to hope she didn't meet anyone over the weekend.