old thread but ive been getting some results with the following
(for extreme measures)
keto + IF + ECA + yolombine + betahistine
garlic extract,alpha lipoic acid,green tea extract, policosanol
double or triple water daily intake
work out fasted and wait for 2 hours before eating
drink 1,5 liters of frozen cold water at waking up, take cold showers regularly everyday (heat transfer is why Michael Phelps had a 12,000 calories diet without looking like a fat bloat, this is nasa research)
kettlebell swings are one of the best cardio out there
but don't bother with cardio if you can workout without resting between sets (be careful to not fuck your rotator cuff), supersets works very well, get your heart pumping some blood
do a lot of compound exercises, yates row's, pull downs, deadlifts
Quote: (06-13-2014 09:09 AM)calihunter Wrote:
Quote: (06-13-2014 06:06 AM)Maciano Wrote:
This thread seems dead, but highly informative.
Is fasting rly a good idea, because I'm afraid I'll lose muscle tissue that way. Another problem I have with fasting is that when I work & train hard, I feel like having zero energy w/o food.
definitely not, this is from my own experience, i've wasted a lot on money with fast and slow digesting proteins,BCAA, eating every 3 hours, nowadays i just eat a huge plate of eggs, bacon, steak, garlic, brown beans and cabbage (i LOVE that shit with vinegar,salt and olive oil) once a day and voila, same muscle gain with great fat loss
not saying supplements are bullshit but i didn't see a difference without them, i'm still experimenting with fasting without bcaa's to see how it works out, this shit is very expensive in Brasil
you will lose some muscle mass if you're on keto, but its mostly water, when you carb up your body swells, i can't believe how much my chest and biceps just explode in size from night to day after carb refeeding
i never felt tired working out fasted, must be some problem with your insulin, sugar levels
keto again is what makes you very tired because of the lack of glycogen, my strenght didnt dropped on keto, but i would set to failure more early
Quote: (06-13-2014 04:35 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:
I've heard a lot of people suggest fasted cardio on waking up, but a lot on this thread are saying no cardio. Why's that?
my guess is that prolonged cardio releases too much cortisol, it will prevent muscle gain and fat loss, high intensity brief cardio is best if you are on ECA stack, you will sweat like a fatso climbing mount everest on all fours
staying 3 hours at the gym only lifting weights is not as damaging/catabolic as one hour of cardio (especially if fasted or after workout)