[Blunt]

If you want to see both cities and still get the bang I would go to Kiev for 2 days then 8 in Odessa or visa-versa. In the fall you can't go wrong with either.

Pipeline via Mamba, both cities have a lot of girls that will be coming back for college.

Try to get there while they are still in booty shorts and sundresses.

If you really like to party I would go to Odessa. Data sheet coming soon.

[brianmark]

(06-25-2012 02:53 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:58 PM)slubu Wrote:  

I'm heading to Ukraine for 7-10 days this fall. Would you guys recommend all the time in Kiev (current plan), or splitting between Kiev and another city (Lviv, Odessa, Kharkiv)?

I would split your time between Kiev and Odessa

When Kreshetik is pedestrianised, it's a day game paradise

I agree 100% with you that Kreshetik can be a day or night game paradise. Met lots of girls there that I later dated. Also in the malls around there too.

I'm not so sure I'd break it up between two cities if you have only 7 - 10 days, unless you can get a lot of SNLs?

Deb what were your lays, SNLs mostly?

[Deb Auchery]

I pipelined before on VK.com and Mamba. One I was talking to prior for about one year.

But got SNL at Vodka bar a couple of times

[slubu]

My goal is SNLs. Unless Ukranian girls are not flaky, because my trips in South America and back here in California flake level is high.

[brianmark]

(06-24-2012 06:08 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(06-23-2012 08:59 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

I haven't been to Ukraine in 5 years, but spent almost 7 months there. I though that Kiev was expensive. Apts near the center were about $100 even then. So the Hostels don't care if you bring girls back there to bang? Is the bar "112" still in the Areana complex? Met a lot of girls there!

Not too sure, there is Vodka Bar there, that place is a lot of fun.

Is the Vodka Bar downstairs at the Arena complex? That is where "112" was. I met more girls at "112" any other bar. It was close to where I lived and always produced!

[Deb Auchery]

Well its kind of outside the complex, pretty close to the statue. You go down some stairs

[brianmark]

(06-27-2012 05:50 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Well its kind of outside the complex, pretty close to the statue. You go down some stairs

It must be a different place, because you used to enter on the inside of the Arena complex. It was almost straight acroos from the Arena Bar, then down the stairs. Which statue, where?

[Deb Auchery]

Yes differen't place I think. That big thing in Freedom Square, monument I should say.

Can't wait to go back to Kiev, done some solid pipelining

[slubu]

Wanted to bump this thread as I'm heading to Ukraine next month. About to book an apartment - is it better to be on the south end of Kreschtyk street near the Arena complex, or on the northern side next to Independence Square? I'm looking to be as logistically sound to bring girls back from night clubs and such.

Also, any further updates on places to go? It seems the good places are the Arena complex, Vodka Bar, Shooters.

[Greek kamaki]

Better next to Independance Square although it does not make much of a difference.

[slubu]

Found this link with what seems like some decent information: http://kiev4tourists.com/Nightlife.html

Not sure how accurate the information is though.

[Icarus]

Gents,

You may be amused by the fact that this thread is discussed in this thread on the Kyiv Group on CouchSurfing. Typical reaction:

Quote:

I was aware of the fact of sex tourism and that Ukraine is #1 destination, but I could not have imagined that it is on such large scale. This is so ugly and revolting, I can't even begin to express what I think and feel about it. It is also disturbing that those guys talk about couchsurfing as a first step to get laid.

[paninaro]

(07-31-2013 08:54 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

Gents,

You may be amused by the fact that this thread is discussed in this thread on the Kyiv Group on CouchSurfing.

Interesting read. There's a link at the end of that thread about why one guy thinks CS has jumped the shark:
http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/13-05/...-fall.html

I can see his point, especially for large major cities. I think it can still work well in other places though.