Quote: (03-14-2012 11:36 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
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Basically this thread comes down to this:
1. The people who haven't tried it, hate it, say it doesn't work and want to push their agenda on people that do.
2. The people that have tried it, like it, say it works from personal experience and believe in freedom of choice.
3. Some rational people (ie Roosh) don't smoke, but see how it can be beneficial in many situations, just like drinking.
Read into this however you like.
The choice is yours. (Which of course, I believe everyone should have the freedom to make for themselves).
Again, I repeat my disclaimer that I mean no disrespect to you G, nor the other smokers on here. I plan to implement your strip game once I get down to the US and I will look into those suits once I get my cash up.
Now..smoking can be beneficial in some situations, not many. To say many is to insinuate that most situations, smoking can be beneficial to picking up a lizard.
When you say beneficial, you seem to insinuate that if you and someone who has all things in place, game, custom suit, no texting etc..and the person doesn't have a cigarette, you will come out on top due to your cigarette leverage.
If I was forced to smoke, I'd rather burn herb instead of cigarette. That has much higher value than cigarettes.
As Giovonny says, cigs game is primarily good for picking up lizards who smoke - yes.
Most of the people I meet who smoke are ashamed of the habit because it controls them and they do not have the willpower/discipline to quit. They are controlled by a substance which if they cannot get access to, leaves them wretched, itchy and wracked with anxiety.
G, you have heard numerous accounts of members on here who said they felt like shyt when they smoked CIGARETTES and feel better once they stopped and yet you
pretend you haven't read what they have posted. They report suffering from bronchitis, asthma, poor athletic performance but you keep on yapping about government plots and women living over 100. There is even research that cigarettes affect sexual performance - erectile dysfunction. If you go to a private homeopathy clinic and report anything of that nature, they will ask if you smoke. They don't give a fcuk about govnt backing - they get paid directly with your cash.
So yea, guys, keep smoking to capture your lizards but make sure you got a Ciallis tab tucked into that pocket square too as the ciggies WILL BE affecting your penis.
I had a friend who had been smoking since 16 or so and when he stopped (I was the final motivator for him - I did not request him to do so but he just knew I didn't and finally kicked).
He has always repeated on how he differently he felt physically from smoking as opposed to not smoking. He also didn't like the psychological dependence on these drugs.
However, G, your logic is the norm of smokers. I know many guys AND lizards who smoke and they all bluster and pretend there is nothing wrong with the habit.
Yet they constantly catch colds and couldn't walk up a decent hill to save their grace.
But I see what you are saying though. Cigarettes generate that 'rebel' look for those who look too clean cut and nerdy.
For me, I don't have that problem of trying to look cool.
Again, I come at you like this cos I know you got an iron chin. You won't start whining like some.
Again, I have much respect.