[kimleebj]

AMERICANS are supposed to be mobile and even pushy. ...
But sometime in the past 30 years, someone has hit the brakes and Americans — particularly young Americans — have become risk-averse and sedentary. ...
The likelihood of 20-somethings moving to another state has dropped well over 40 percent since the 1980s, according to calculations based on Census Bureau data. ...
For about $200, young Nevadans who face a statewide 13 percent jobless rate can hop a Greyhound bus to North Dakota, where they’ll find a welcome sign and a 3.3 percent rate. ...
Perhaps more worrisome, kids who grow up during tough economic times also tend to believe that luck plays a bigger role in their success, which breeds complacency. ...
Unfortunately, societies that emphasize luck over logic are not likely to thrive.
The Go-Nowhere Generation

[Gmac]

I think the economy has more to do with this than anything else, but there is definitely a noticeable decline in the American adventurous and entrepreneurial spirit.

[Pilgrim37]

[quote='kimleebj' pid='177245' dateline='1331561383']
AMERICANS are supposed to be mobile and even pushy. ...
But sometime in the past 30 years, someone has hit the brakes and Americans — particularly young Americans — have become risk-averse and sedentary. ...
The likelihood of 20-somethings moving to another state has dropped well over 40 percent since the 1980s, according to calculations based on Census Bureau data. ...
For about $200, young Nevadans who face a statewide 13 percent jobless rate can hop a Greyhound bus to North Dakota, where they’ll find a welcome sign and a 3.3 percent rate. ...
Perhaps more worrisome, kids who grow up during tough economic times also tend to believe that luck plays a bigger role in their success, which breeds complacency. ...
Unfortunately, societies that emphasize luck over logic are not likely to thrive.
The Go-Nowhere Generation
[Unfortunately, societies that emphasize luck over logic are not likely to thrive. /quote]

That's individuals too..
I find myself having to snap myself out of the " my luck will change" mentality if I've been having a bad time of it for a while,back to the "only I can change things" mentality.

So easy to wait for "things" to change.

[Blanco]

From my experience, USA teaches children the following:


Graduate from high school

Go to college

Get a job with "insert big name corporation"

Go to graduate school

Work your way up the ladder

Get married

Get a 30 year mortgage


I do feel that the entrepreneurial spirit has been lost a tad bit and Americans are indoctrinated into the thought process I mentioned above. I have seen the mention of the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad on the RVF a few times, and the author's "Poor Dad" resembles American parents today. Perhaps with the way the economy is now, more people will begin to work for themselves....or just rely on Uncle Sam.

[Samseau]

The government controls over 20% of the economy, making it extremely difficult for entrepreneurs to survive.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-12-2012 10:49 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The big corporations government control over 20% of the economy, making it extremely difficult for entrepreneurs to survive.

Fixed it for you.

[Samseau]

(03-12-2012 11:44 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 10:49 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The big corporations government control over 20% of the economy, making it extremely difficult for entrepreneurs to survive.

Fixed it for you.

reposted below

[Gmac]

What's the deal Samseau? The quality of your posts used to be really solid man...

[Brian]

(03-12-2012 10:49 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The government controls over 20% of the economy, making it extremely difficult for entrepreneurs to survive.

In a lot of ways government stifles entrepreneurs, but in some ways savvy entrepreneurs can take advantage of what the government is doing. Thats why the DC economy is booming - people getting huge govt contracts

[Samseau]

(03-12-2012 12:11 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

What's the deal Samseau? The quality of your posts used to be really solid man...

You're right, that picture was too patronizing to Tuth. I just google posted an image to get my point across. Here's the same pic without the bullshit:

   


The government is the biggest, baddest corporation around today.

They put in regulations that keep the smaller corporations in power, crowding out the small guy.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-12-2012 12:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

The government is the biggest, baddest corporation around today.

They put in regulations that keep the smaller corporations in power, crowding out the small guy.

Except regulation is lower than its been in 30 years. How do you think these companies can make stuff in China and India for pennies on the dollar? No regulation.

And, that chart is silly. It's comparing expenditure with profit. A weird, perplexing comparison.

It's pointless to have this discussion, because anti-government types will always blame "the government." The government is what we make it. Right now, the government = the corporations, since they own every senator, president, and candidate. So, in a way, we're both right.

[Roosh]

Famous pyschologist says that the problem is men: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/zimchallenge.html

Towards the end he lists what women want: a good partner, intimacy, someone who knows how to dance, and then claims how men have totally failed in this mission to please them. Women are not faulted or criticized. The "demise" of not men is of course not due to a lack of incentives that men have to participate in the race to please increasingly ugly women. The problem is internet, porn, male weakness, and lack of drive.

[BortimusPrime]

(03-12-2012 01:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Famous pyschologist says that the problem is men: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/zimchallenge.html

Towards the end he lists what women want: a good partner, intimacy, someone who knows how to dance, and then claims how men have totally failed in this mission to please them. Women are not faulted or criticized. The "demise" of not men is of course not due to a lack of incentives that men have to participate in the race to please increasingly ugly women. The problem is internet, porn, male weakness, and lack of drive.

What's the deal with the man-hating at TED? First it was that harpy from Slate, now this dude.

[Samseau]

(03-12-2012 01:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Famous pyschologist says that the problem is men: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/zimchallenge.html

Towards the end he lists what women want: a good partner, intimacy, someone who knows how to dance, and then claims how men have totally failed in this mission to please them. Women are not faulted or criticized. The "demise" of not men is of course not due to a lack of incentives that men have to participate in the race to please increasingly ugly women. The problem is internet, porn, male weakness, and lack of drive.

Laughed so hard at this

[Samseau]

(03-12-2012 01:07 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 12:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

The government is the biggest, baddest corporation around today.

They put in regulations that keep the smaller corporations in power, crowding out the small guy.

Except regulation is lower than its been in 30 years. How do you think these companies can make stuff in China and India for pennies on the dollar? No regulation.

That same benefit also works for the small AND big business. What would regulating this do, except put more power in the hands of big businesses who have the money to navigate the sea of laws and regulations?

Quote:

And, that chart is silly. It's comparing expenditure with profit. A weird, perplexing comparison.

Money is power.

Who spends the most has the most power.

Quote:

It's pointless to have this discussion, because anti-government types will always blame "the government." The government is what we make it. Right now, the government = the corporations, since they own every senator, president, and candidate. So, in a way, we're both right.

It's true that the government and big business are intertwined, but I can't see how more regulations are going to help anything.

You said it yourself - all the senators, presidents, and other candidates are owned.

So how can we expect them to make regulations to stop big businesses? We can't, which is why the best solution is to take power away from the government.

[MikeCF]

Lots of guys bitch about the economy.

North Dakota is booming.

How many guys are moving?

American men generally are insufferable pussies.

Indeed the only reason women are running shit is because men are too pussified to put up a fight.

[MikeCF]

The guy in the TED talk is either openly gay or closeted.

[Moma]

(03-12-2012 02:57 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Lots of guys bitch about the economy.

North Dakota is booming.

How many guys are moving?

American men generally are insufferable pussies.

Indeed the only reason women are running shit is because men are too pussified to put up a fight.

What jobs are available there?

[MikeCF]

(03-12-2012 03:07 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 02:57 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Lots of guys bitch about the economy.

North Dakota is booming.

How many guys are moving?

American men generally are insufferable pussies.

Indeed the only reason women are running shit is because men are too pussified to put up a fight.

What jobs are available there?

All types. It's a boom. Google it.

[Vice]

(03-12-2012 01:07 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 12:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

The government is the biggest, baddest corporation around today.

They put in regulations that keep the smaller corporations in power, crowding out the small guy.

Except regulation is lower than its been in 30 years. How do you think these companies can make stuff in China and India for pennies on the dollar? No regulation.

And, that chart is silly. It's comparing expenditure with profit. A weird, perplexing comparison.

It's pointless to have this discussion, because anti-government types will always blame "the government." The government is what we make it. Right now, the government = the corporations, since they own every senator, president, and candidate. So, in a way, we're both right.

Regulation is only lower for the bigger companies. Meanwhile, small business gets shafted on the regular. I don't know why but people just love to lump all corporations together.

Take the FTC regulations over internet marketing for instance - the ones they changed dramatically in 2009 or so, it affected small entrepreneurs the most... Or look at the tax loopholes, unless your company has the money to hire the best accountants and bookkeepers, you just can't take advantage of them...

A small restaurant around the corner is a corporation too.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-12-2012 03:50 PM)Vice Wrote:  

Regulation is only lower for the bigger companies. Meanwhile, small business gets shafted on the regular. I don't know why but people just love to lump all corporations together.

Exactly. That's what's crushing small business and the entrepreneurial spirit: a conspiracy between large multinationals and shitty, corrupt politicians on both sides of the aisle who depend on their skrilla to win increasingly expensive elections. They can't rock the boat, because the corps will pull their cash if they start saying shit that doesn't jibe with they want them to say. There are no "aisles" in this country. Democrats now = Republicans. It's one giant corporate party.

When I say corporations, I don't mean the little guy. I mean GE, Exxon-Mobil, Apple, Wal-Mart, those guys. They pay no taxes, ship jobs abroad, get massive tax refunds, and keep leaning on these turds for more concessions. That harms all of us, but we can't say fucking shit about it. They own our asses.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-12-2012 02:02 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

What's the deal with the man-hating at TED? First it was that harpy from Slate, now this dude.

My sentiments exactly.

[Nonpareil]

(03-12-2012 01:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Famous pyschologist says that the problem is men: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/zimchallenge.html

Towards the end he lists what women want: a good partner, intimacy, someone who knows how to dance, and then claims how men have totally failed in this mission to please them. Women are not faulted or criticized. The "demise" of not men is of course not due to a lack of incentives that men have to participate in the race to please increasingly ugly women. The problem is internet, porn, male weakness, and lack of drive.

I love that this is prevalent thinking, but meanwhile you get put on a watch list because you only ask that women be slender, feminine and put together.

Anyone else think that part of it is because America used to stand for honor, charity, liberty and freedom, and now it stands for political correctness, keeping-up-with-the-Joneses, the belief that the world owes you something and the outlawing of all the freedoms our grandparents enjoyed? Why would anyone rush to assimilate themselves into a system they have no respect for?

[mofo]

Survival of the fittest. That's it.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-12-2012 04:40 PM)mofo Wrote:  

Survival of the fittest fattest. That's it.

Just fixed it for you. No thanks necessary.