[WesternCancer]

if you guys remember the 0 to crazy in 17 text messages or whatever thread you'll remember the Crazy Bitch Rationale Cycle™ and my personal experience with it. Scarily enough you'll also remember how some of us got restart texts from these girls shortly after the thread. Well coincidentally enough the former fuck buddy whom I haven't spoken to in months texts me last night saying "come over and fuck me NOW" I say nothing as I am unable to, and save her losing about 30 lbs (a reason why I stopped fucking her). I few hours later she texts "oops that was meant for my new fuck buddy ____ (guy with a similar name)" I reply laughing hysterically and told her she followed the Crazy Bitch Rationale Cycle™ and told her to look the link in the previously mentioned thread up. She immediately starts calling me an asshole and saying that she didnt actually want to fuck me and I was being desperate for even answering her. I left it at that and today I get a text saying you don't want to fuck me?????

In short:
- FFB (former fuck budy) gets horny and thinks she can booty call me
- booty calls me
- no response so she pretends she was texting someone else when all parties involved know she wouldn't have another fuck buddy
- i point out her hamster logic
- she lashes out calling ME desperate and an asshole
- no response makes her hamster spin and asks for validation via sex again.

THE CYCLE CONTINUES.


another non-online instance of hamster rationale: PlanB girl from this weekend and I banged once more after some implementation of "a view to swoop" and "vino close" Comes over to my place, shes all emotional from the PlanB (hence why I haven't snapped on her yet, I want to 100% know shes not preg, turns out she has weird period cycles and misses it somestimes what the fuck) anyways. Shes being a bitch, being mean etc. She tells me shes mad at me for banging her when she was "drunk" when in both instances I went for a drink of water, came back and she was naked in my bed. I tell her she should leave as I have to do some studying, she gets a bit more mad then begins crying and says she loves me.

In short:
- bang a girl
- she tries to rationalize me as the bad guy because she went against her "no sex before marriage" clause
- bangs me again
- gets mad again, tries to cold shoulder me in order to get me to be more affectionate towards her
- breaks down and tells me she loves me.

Hamster Spinning Level: Centrifugation™

[Only One Man]

(03-08-2012 05:01 PM)houston Wrote:  

Timoteo - would you say the less a girl brings to the table, the longer her checklist is? Generally speaking.

Ha I can assure you that the first girl most definitely brings quite a lot to the table. Then she finishes all of it and goes and brings a shitload more to the table.

[Hotwheels]

If POF didn't delete emails after a month or whatever it is I could post some nice openers I've received.

Right on my profile I have a line basically saying no fatties which apparently gets them warmed up enough to message me saying that I am shallow amongst other things.

Was also IMing with one that looked pretty good but had some "possible fatty traits" going on so I asked if she had any other pics, preferably body shots. She went from being sweet and DTF to flipped the fuck out, bitching me out, bitching about how all guys are assholes only wanting skinny chicks, verbally cockpunching me, etc. I simply responded "Don't bother with the pics" and logged off.

Fucking nutjobs.

[Walderschmidt]

(03-08-2012 04:49 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I know it burns you guys to the core that anyone would give a chick like this the time of day, but I say hey, it's better that someone take her off the market so she'll disappear into relationship/wedded bliss and her many boxes of snack food.

I would argue that she took herself off the market a long time ago. Her gravitational pull, rivaling that of a black hole, has managed to drag another poor soul off the sexual market place with her.

[Hotwheels]

(03-08-2012 09:58 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(03-08-2012 04:49 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I know it burns you guys to the core that anyone would give a chick like this the time of day, but I say hey, it's better that someone take her off the market so she'll disappear into relationship/wedded bliss and her many boxes of snack food.

I would argue that she took herself off the market a long time ago. Her gravitational pull, rivaling that of a black hole, has managed to drag another poor soul off the sexual market place with her.

It won't keep her from being a viscous cockblocker though if she should happen to have any passable friends.

[BortimusPrime]

(03-08-2012 04:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Can people that fat clean themselves properly? Serious question.

Rag on a stick, baby.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-08-2012 06:14 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Posted this yesterday on another thread. Started IMing a chick, decent face, and only looked at her pics after I started messaging her:

This is perfect for this thread. Complete and utter fat-hamster™. LOL at your final statement.

[Basil Ransom]

(03-08-2012 09:45 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  

(03-08-2012 05:01 PM)houston Wrote:  

Timoteo - would you say the less a girl brings to the table, the longer her checklist is? Generally speaking.

Ha I can assure you that the first girl most definitely brings quite a lot to the table. Then she finishes all of it and goes and brings a shitload more to the table.

Hahaha

One for you,



and six for her.


I'd troll fatties on OKC more often, but I don't because:
1. Worried they'd track me down and cause me trouble in real life.
2. Take the fatties off OKC and the ratio would be like 3:1 guys:girls. We want the fatties to take the guys off the market, even if those guys were never our competition. Knock-on effect and all.
3. They'd report me and I get banned from OKCupid.

We had a thread a little while back, believe it was on trying to get fuck buddies to lose weight. And the consensus was that fat chicks be craaaay-zaaay. As the posts above demonstrate, try to talk to any fat chick rationally about her weight, and once you go beyond the most general observations about fitness, she will go fucking nuts. Talk to a skinny chick in fashion, and you'll feel like you're talking to one of us Rooshites.

[gringochileno]

(03-08-2012 11:48 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

As the posts above demonstrate, try to talk to any fat chick rationally about her weight, and once you go beyond the most general observations about fitness, she will go fucking nuts. Talk to a skinny chick in fashion, and you'll feel like you're talking to one of us Rooshites.

Yep, hot skinny girls tend to be remarkably lucid about the realities of the sexual marketplace. I've had more than one girl tell me that she stays in shape because if she got fat it would be "like a guy quitting his job and selling all his stuff and expecting his girlfriend not to care."

As much as the Rationalization Hamster is a good metaphor that accounts for a lot of female behavior, I think a lot of fat girls' tendency to be delusional about their SMV comes down to plain old insecurity. On a not-so-deep level they know that not being pretty keeps them from dating the guys they want and from being happy, so they react by lashing out at "creeps" and "misogynists" when they're confronted then with reality. This explains the phenomenon of fat bitches having absurd checklists too--it's overcompensation for the fact that they're horribly insecure and depressed.

The insecurity thing might be able to explain some more things too, like how some people have observed that girls in the 5.5-7 range can be harder to bang than bona fide hotties. The semi-cute chicks are insecure and will hold out for a very high-value man that they can use for validation to themselves and their friends, while a girl who's hot and knows it is more willing to bang a guy who may not be puuuurrrrrfect but who cares, he makes her feel good and gets her pussy wet.

[Timoteo]

(03-09-2012 12:23 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(03-08-2012 11:48 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

As the posts above demonstrate, try to talk to any fat chick rationally about her weight, and once you go beyond the most general observations about fitness, she will go fucking nuts. Talk to a skinny chick in fashion, and you'll feel like you're talking to one of us Rooshites.

Yep, hot skinny girls tend to be remarkably lucid about the realities of the sexual marketplace. I've had more than one girl tell me that she stays in shape because if she got fat it would be "like a guy quitting his job and selling all his stuff and expecting his girlfriend not to care."

As much as the Rationalization Hamster is a good metaphor that accounts for a lot of female behavior, I think a lot of fat girls' tendency to be delusional about their SMV comes down to plain old insecurity. On a not-so-deep level they know that not being pretty keeps them from dating the guys they want and from being happy, so they react by lashing out at "creeps" and "misogynists" when they're confronted then with reality. This explains the phenomenon of fat bitches having absurd checklists too--it's overcompensation for the fact that they're horribly insecure and depressed.

The insecurity thing might be able to explain some more things too, like how some people have observed that girls in the 5.5-7 range can be harder to bang than bona fide hotties. The semi-cute chicks are insecure and will hold out for a very high-value man that they can use for validation to themselves and their friends, while a girl who's hot and knows it is more willing to bang a guy who may not be puuuurrrrrfect but who cares, he makes her feel good and gets her pussy wet.

Solid points. Allowing themselves to be "easy" means they've "officially" hit rock bottom and have to admit that it's the only way they can get a guy to want them. It's the last little piece of dignity they have left, so they fight to the death to keep it.

[Excelsior]

(03-08-2012 11:48 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

We had a thread a little while back, believe it was on trying to get fuck buddies to lose weight. And the consensus was that fat chicks be craaaay-zaaay. As the posts above demonstrate, try to talk to any fat chick rationally about her weight, and once you go beyond the most general observations about fitness, she will go fucking nuts. Talk to a skinny chick in fashion, and you'll feel like you're talking to one of us Rooshites.

Hey guys, remember how I kept harping on and on about how bitches be crazy? The stats support the argument that young american women are, in perhaps up to half of all cases, nuts.

Guess what? Fat bitches be crazier!

Quote:

A "complex interplay" of neurobiological, psychological, and socioeconomic factors contribute to the dangerous association between obesity and mental illness, according to 2 clinical reviews published in the January issue of the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry.

Also:

Quote:

Psychological disorders which obesity may trigger include depression, eating disorders, distorted body image, and low self-esteem.

Obese people have been found several times to have higher rates of depression. For example, David A. Kats, MD and colleagues at the University of Wisconsin-Madison assessed quality of life in 2,931 patients with chronic health conditions including obesity. They found that clinical depression was highest in very obese participants (BMI over 35).

Other researchers also have identified an increase in depressive symptoms in very obese people. Evidence from the Swedish Obese Subjects (SOS) study indicates that clinically significant depression is three to four times higher in severely obese individuals than in similar non-obese individuals.

“Depression on a level indicating psychiatric morbidity was more often seen in the obese,” the authors, Professor Marianne Sullivan and her team from Sahlgrenska University Hospital, Sweden wrote in a journal article. They reported that the depression scores for obese people were as bad as, or worse than, those for patients with chronic pain.

Further data from a large community study supports a link. Robert E. Roberts, PhD., and colleagues at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston gathered data on 2,123 participants living in Alameda County. Taking into account factors such as social class, social support, chronic medical conditions and life events, they found that “obesity at baseline was associated with increased risk of depression five years later. The reverse was not true; depression did not increase the risk of future obesity.”

Conclusion: Many of us scratch our heads as fat women try to rationalize their conditions and deny the blatantly obvious negative health effects of obesity. There is no need for this, since the explanation is simple: these women are actually crazy. It goes beyond simple rationalization hamsters-we're dealing with people who quite frankly are not right upstairs and are not capable of seeing reason on this subject. Simple as that.

[cat_a_clysm]

(03-08-2012 03:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

At least he's wearing a pocket square..

And a beard, too. Wtf is he doing with a beast like that?

[Tuthmosis]

This one might be even worse:

Note the high match percentage (yikes!):
   

No shit?
   

Don't we all.
   

Paging Fat-Girl Hamster:
   

Lord have mercy on our souls.
   

   

   

   

[Tuthmosis]

Continued:

   

   

   

[Tuthmosis]

(03-09-2012 01:48 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Conclusion: Many of us scratch our heads as fat women try to rationalize their conditions and deny the blatantly obvious negative health effects of obesity. There is no need for this, since the explanation is simple: these women are actually crazy. It goes beyond simple rationalization hamsters-we're dealing with people who quite frankly are not right upstairs and are not capable of seeing reason on this subject. Simple as that.

These bitches actually be crazy. Good stuff, Ath.

[SVK]

Wow Tuth, so this BMI 50 monstrosity wants slim guys and even a slightly overweight is a deal breaker? WTF???????

This is why I don't do online dating in America anymore, the quality is terrible and it's too much work for little return on investment (well, maybe my system sucked, one day I'm gonna go trhrough that OK cupid thread to see some pointers. But, I'm probably just spoiled. Before my last visit to Slovakia I posted an ad in a local dating service, saying I'm looking for "attractive, sporty girl, etc". Then spammed a lot of girls, judging by the picture. 2 girls replied back with something like that they are flattered, but maybe she wouldn't be really be my type since she's a little chubby. Looked at more pics and yes, both of them were a little chubby, but still probably UNDER American average. Gotta love places where women are not all delusional...

[gringochileno]

Holy hell, Tuth. Okay, I was wrong. This can't be simple insecurity--you can't account for the sheer number of contradictory beliefs without there being some kind of serious psychological pathology.

[Kickb]

Does looking at fat unatractive women lower testosterone?

[Moma]

(03-09-2012 08:17 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Continued:

I give her face 5.24 out of 10. If she lost 200 quid, she would be alright.

[soup]

(03-09-2012 09:28 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(03-09-2012 08:17 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Continued:

I give her face 5.24 out of 10. If she lost 200 quid, she would be alright.

I give her a "25" because she has face quality of a 5.24. but weighs five times as much.

[Goldin Boy]

(03-08-2012 04:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Can people that fat clean themselves properly? Serious question.

I doubt it but judging by the posture of her b/f I think he's an eager volunteer or she might have one of these:

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Incredible find, Tuthmosis! I mean, it sure is disgusting but it's a real gem if you have a good mental barrier in place. Now how do I add that rose and dinner to the post?

[Roosh]

In this picture she looks like a bull ready to charge the matador:

[Mrs. Chocolate]

This girl is clueless... HOw come she demands a fit man when she is not?

[Walderschmidt]

(03-08-2012 10:02 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

It won't keep her from being a viscous cockblocker though if she should happen to have any passable friends.

Any "friends" she may have probably orbit her in a similar fashion to the planets around the sun, doomed to remain in orbit away from the cock.

The best way to not get sucked into orbit is to not come close in the first place.