[Moma]

(03-19-2012 09:41 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

I wouldn't hit a person with sunglasses at a club. Bone killer.

Bone killer??

[Moma]

(03-18-2012 09:50 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Here's a new one. She could be trying to be ironic, but I don't think so:





Would you bang? (Last picture goes out to Moma)

That was a fine azz lizard (the upright iguana). She sold me on the swimsuit and the lizard pic. The club pic was wack but seeing her face without shades, she is cute enough to compensate for the soft body.

Boner test passed.

[Hotwheels]

Quote:

f you just want to bend me over and ram me go elsewhere, that's most likely not going to happen for you. I don't just spread my legs for a guy who says I'm pretty.

With that being said, I love sex. Haha

Sounds like she's had some bad openers laid on her. lol

I get the vibe that she's more than down to fuck though. Just can't be a moron about it.

[Screwston]

(03-21-2012 10:22 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 03:06 AM)houston Wrote:  

"I gurantee that I'm not like any other girl you've met! I'm one of a fucking kind so take it or leave it! I also cuss like a damn sailor so click that X in the top right corner if you can't handle that. I'm OBSESSED with music and would die without it. I HATE mainstream music so my ipod is full of obscure bands and shitty backpacker rappers. I have 5 tattoos and want plenty more because they are like therapy for me. Don't even bother messaging me if you can't take home a girl with tattoos! I need a man who has full sleeves, is over 6'3, has a 6 pack, wears size 11.5 in shoes, likes kids, green eyes that change to blue under certain temperatures, is sensitive, can fight off 6 attackers, has an 11 inch dick and doesn't mind if I have herpes. Message me if you're a real man who knows how to treat a lady. No minorities please! I was raised to only date other Americans."

LMFAO. Please tell me you wrote this.

Whether online or in real life, I'm really annoyed when chicks think that body mutilations (tattoo, piercings, gauges) make them more attractive or interesting. It's the fucking opposite.

True dat on the "cussing like a sailor." I've seen, literally, at least a dozen girls that proudly proclaim that shit online. It's fine if you cuss when you talk, but don't be so proud about the fact that it's constant.

Yeah, I don't understand why girls brag about cussing. That's a nasty habit that I struggle to not do when I'm around family. Why do you think they proclaim that?

[Screwston]

(03-20-2012 07:25 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  



I'd hit it. She might be "extra-curvy" in general, but I'm impressed by how flat her belly is compared to the rest. Unless it's an optical illusion...

You can tell she has a huge back. Gonna look like a quarterback when you're hitting it from behind

[Screwston]

i didn't write these. compare them to my fake profile though...

Quote:

Ima single mom to a beautiful 18 month old lil girl I work every day have my own place and car, I'm very simple,funny,sweet and caring.I'm looking for someone serious who doesn't play games,cheat or lie. I don't need any drama or bullshit, just want someone that can be my best friend, someone to grow old with. I'm very affectionate and loving, I'm very open minded and just want to be happy,not have a one night stand with ***holes. I love tattoos, have a couple myself.I listen to alot of rock n country, I'm not scared to get a lil dirty, goin muddin whatever I'm down. Well if you wanna know more just send me a message.

Quote:

Well my name is kasey I'm 20 years old, I still live at home.
I'm currently going to college and I have a part time job
My major is criminal justice
I love tattoos I have 2
Huge saints fan! But I'm also a texans fan. Calm down boys lol
Love football. Baseball. Basketball. Mma. Boxing
I play xbox
I love kids. If you have kids that won't bother me at all.
If you can't accept the fact that I put school before any man then keep on going. Your not above my education.
I have my morals and values. I'm not going to ditch them for a guy. If you don't have a job and have no intentions of getting one then keep going. Drugs and smoking are a huge turn off and so is dip
Im looking for a man who wants a serious relationship and knows how to treat a woman.
Also I put my age first so no guys that are in their 40s or 30s sorry I already have a dad
I'm big on family so I'm a package deal. Don't drink alot cause I'm underage. Non smoker. I hate it. No drugs.
I love working out.
I'm a true country girl. I love fishing and riding four wheelers
If you click the meet me button then message me, I don't always check those meet mes.

Quote:

Hey I'm Amanda. This is my third try on here. I'm in school and after I get me undergrad I plan on going to law school. I love music, art, fashion, and books. I read all different kinds of books and listen to almost all kinds of music. I try to stay active. I'm looking for a total package. I want a guy who can appreciate a person inside and out. If you aren't willing to go two step then that is a total deal breaker. I am working towards what I want in life and I want someone who is doing that too. I'm not interested in playing games. I like to go out or stay home and have a quiet night. I am past my "party stage" and I think guys that get trashed all weekend are really unattractive. I absolutely love a good laugh. I like intelligent conversations but I also enjoy being silly. I like original people. We aren't all from the same cookie cutter. I enjoy my family and I am a family oriented person. I like to work out and do physical activities but I don't have a six pack or live at the gym. If you are looking for a chick that looks like a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model then I am not your girl. With this being said, I'm not a tub of lard either. I am not looking for friends with benefits or casual sex. Guys that say bro in every sentence need to go join a frat somewhere and leave me alone. I have a nose ring, just a tiny stud, my belly button is pierced, I have my Monroe done, and I have a tattoo on my stomach. If you are just trying to get laid, don't talk to me. If you expect a girl that is goig to devote all her time to you and to never have any other plans or a life of her own then DO NOT message me. I am really busy and I am investing in my future and if you can't deal with that then don't waste my time. Feel free to message me if you aren't creepy. If you do not have a job, a car, or any kind of life please move along

Quote:

Hey I'm rylan so yeah I'm going to be blunt I'm not here for stuipd people that makes fun of me being a virgin.
It's not my fault if u get some std but yeah.
I'm 18
4"6
And I'm like the most sweetest person until people **** me over and that happens a lot so I don't trust anymore until u earn my trust but that's hard to do and I won't go out with someone I haven't talk to before I have to know u for Atleast a month and not the second day I met you I'm not like that I wasn't raised like that but I was raised in a church filled home.
So yeah.
I grew up with 6 brothers and I'm the only girl. So I'm tough at heart but I cry over stupid things to but I know for damn sure Im not gonna cry over a guy.
Cause I will die cause my brothers will kill me I'm the youngest and let's see I love going mudding and horses
4 wheelers are the best but I'm not a girly girl ---- gross
But I can act pretty preppy but I know I'm not
But if someone get on my bad side I will make your life hell and I'm done with BS it's gets old act your age.
But some guys just don't grow up
But no FAT GUYS WITH BEARDS.??
Like seriously do I look like a chubby chaser.?

Quote:

About Me
i know they dont give a **** about about me but i promise ill be happy alone
im on here because the people i know are fake ****es and dont deserve to even be in presense i got my sh*ttogether and dont need anyones help at all i have no kids no drama in my life i work two jobs because i love to spoil myself since i can in my free time im either shopping or drinking b/c that is my enjoyment

First Date
im such a nice caring person and expect the person im hanging out to treat me with respect if you are not capable of doing that i will cut u off no warnings i dont have time for you SUCKAS to waste my time
if u ask me to come to my crib you get no response its a privledge to be in my presence or my crib dont act stupid towards me treat me with respect and you will get it
first meet i want to go out of pretty much whatever i want to do we do if u are offended by reading this then move the **** around and find a **** that will let u treat her like sh*t
but back to what i was saying of course the first meet should be fun in a area where we can sit back and get to know each other and of course its on you b.c thats what real men do SUCKAS iswear i think some of your mothers told you its okay to treat people like sh*twhat happend to chivalry
get at me if i havent offended you and im not too hard on the eyes
or get the f!ck off of my page


thankssssss for stopping by


Stop flooding my inbox with the same dang msg of hi how are u
Hey whats up
Be more creative suckassssssssss
Its extremly annoying
I cant talk to u ordinary men
Get it right !

Quote:

About Me
Im Jennifer and I moved to Houston in May...so almost a year ago. I've been busy working and going to school so I havent really found any hotties.

Guys I like:
Dont smoke or chew
Dont have tats
Are 6 feet or taller
Are white
Have a car
Have a good job
Funny
Dont have red hair
Fit but not TO fit
Play golf

If your not in Houston or not going to treat me like a lady, then please dont waste your time writing me.


I like Country music, rap, oldies, anything....

[Tuthmosis]

(03-21-2012 11:20 PM)houston Wrote:  

You can tell she has a huge back. Gonna look like a quarterback when you're hitting it from behind

No doubt. I fucking hate big backs. Even a little big--with everything else being proper--is a huge boner-softener for me. That's why I always look at the shoulder/clavicle area to assess the size. It telegraphs it with perfect accuracy.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-22-2012 12:08 AM)houston Wrote:  

Quote:

About Me
Im Jennifer and I moved to Houston in May...so almost a year ago. I've been busy working and going to school so I havent really found any hotties.

Guys I like:
Dont smoke or chew
Dont have tats
Are 6 feet or taller
Are white
Have a car
Have a good job
Funny
Dont have red hair
Fit but not TO fit
Play golf

If your not in Houston or not going to treat me like a lady, then please dont waste your time writing me.


I like Country music, rap, oldies, anything....

Dude, those are infuriatingly typical online-hamster profiles--complete with the stupid grammar and poor spelling. I would break by mouse trying to bold all of the outrageous shit in there.

It'd be interesting to see pictures of these broads.

[Excelsior]

(03-22-2012 12:08 AM)houston Wrote:  

i didn't write these. compare them to my fake profile though...

Quote:

Hey I'm rylan so yeah I'm going to be blunt I'm not here for stuipd people that makes fun of me being a virgin. It's not my fault if u get some std but yeah. [Athlone: Angry virgin shaming language?]
I'm 18
4"6 [Athlone: Dwarf?]
And I'm like the most sweetest person until people **** me over and that happens a lot so I don't trust anymore until u earn my trust but that's hard to do and I won't go out with someone I haven't talk to before I have to know u for Atleast a month and not the second day I met you I'm not like that I wasn't raised like that but I was raised in a church filled home. [Athlone: Angry dwarf?]
So yeah. [Athlone: Periods are actually your friends, btw...]
...
But I can act pretty preppy but I know I'm not
But if someone get on my bad side I will make your life hell and I'm done with BS it's gets old act your age.
But some guys just don't grow up
But no FAT GUYS WITH BEARDS.??
Like seriously do I look like a chubby chaser.? [Athlone: How many "buts" do you need?!]

I could feel my IQ dropping as I read this. I am now genuinely dumber than I was 10 minutes ago. Holy shit.

[Excelsior]

(03-22-2012 12:08 AM)houston Wrote:  

i didn't write these. compare them to my fake profile though...

Quote:

About Me
i know they dont give a **** about about me but i promise ill be happy alone [Athlone: Wait, why are you here then?]
im on here because the people i know are fake ****es and dont deserve to even be in presense [Athlone: Ah. Gotcha.] i got my sh*ttogether and dont need anyones help at all [Athlone: Oh boy!] i have no kids no drama in my life i work two jobs because i love to spoil myself since i can in my free time im either shopping or drinking b/c that is my enjoyment [Athlone: Wow, that sounds extremely fulfilling! BTW, punctuation marks are your friends. Even a single period (or two!) can do wonders...]

First Date [Athlone: Oh, you've already got this all planned out? You must be quite experienced!]
im such a nice caring person [Athlone: Glad to see you're humble.] and expect the person im hanging out to treat me with respect if you are not capable of doing that i will cut u off no warnings i dont have time for you SUCKAS to waste my time
if u ask me to come to my crib you get no response its a privledge to be in my presence or my crib [Athlone: I'm just blown away by the humility. So down to Earth!] dont act stupid towards me treat me with respect and you will get it

first meet i want to go out of pretty much whatever i want to do we do if u are offended by reading this then move the **** around and find a **** that will let u treat her like sh*t [Athlone: Scumbag Online Dating Girl-Wants you to show her the utmost respect at all times...yet insists that only her desires count in the relationship, considers your thoughts irrelevant and offensive]

but back to what i was saying of course the first meet should be fun in a area where we can sit back and get to know each other and of course its on you b.c thats what real men do SUCKAS iswear i think some of your mothers told you its okay to treat people like sh*twhat happend to chivalry [Athlone: Scumbag Online Dating Girl- says this: "i got my sh*ttogether and dont need anyones help at all" and in the next paragraph insists on receiving chivalry just for being a female. Wants to be considered independent...yet gets offended and considers you a "SUCKA" when you actually treat her accordingly.]
get at me if i havent offended you and im not too hard on the eyes
or get the f!ck off of my page [Athlone: I'll take "get the f!ck off" for $200, Alex!]


thankssssss for stopping by


Stop flooding my inbox with the same dang msg of hi how are u
Hey whats up
Be more creative suckassssssssss
Its extremly annoying
I cant talk to u ordinary men [Athlone: Because you're clearly such an extraordinary woman...]
Get it right !

Quote:

About Me
Im Jennifer and I moved to Houston in May...so almost a year ago. I've been busy working and going to school so I havent really found any hotties. [Athlone: Poor you.]

Guys I like:
Dont smoke or chew [Athlone: Ok...]
Dont have tats [Athlone: Getting pettier, but not too bad yet...]
Are 6 feet or taller [Athlone: Well, now we've eliminated 80% of the male population in one go. Better luck next time, guys! BTW, how tall are you, Jennifer?]
Are white [Athlone: Scumbag Online Dating Girl-Moves to one of the most heavily non-white (75%, to be exact) major cities in America...wants nothing to do with non-whites]
Have a car [Athlone: A little petty, but moderately excuseable-Houston is a bitch without wheels]
Have a good job [Athlone: What do you do, Amanda?]
Funny [Athlone: Ok...]
Dont have red hair [Athlone: LOL]
Fit but not TO fit [Athlone: What does this even mean? He can bench 300, but only squats 250? He has a 4-pack instead of a 6 pack? Seriously, wtf?]
Play golf [Athlone: That came out of nowhere...]

If your not in Houston or not going to treat me like a lady, then please dont waste your time writing me.


I like Country music, rap, oldies, anything.... [Athlone: Scumbag Online Dating Girl-lives in a majority-minority city and likes minority music/culture...wants nothing to do with minorities.]

[Roosh]

We can't be the only ones outraged by these profiles. I wouldn't be surprised if these girls are already getting trolled. Prediction: OK Cupid pushes rule where you can't send negative messages to members.

[Basil Ransom]

(03-23-2012 08:55 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

We can't be the only ones outraged by these profiles. I wouldn't be surprised if these girls are already getting trolled. Prediction: OK Cupid pushes rule where you can't send negative messages to members.

The problem with online dating is that it's all about money, it's run by complete fucking nerds, and it's inveterately conformist.

I tried a couple interesting new services, which suffer from a lack of users, but they did make an admirable attempt at innovating. One, How About We, focuses on going on dates, and keeps profiles minimalistic, to just get people to meet up first and decide what happens later.

Sometimes I've gotten a girl's number, and then for whatever reason we don't meet up soon. I get back to her a week or two later, and she's already dating someone. Hasn't happened too much, but it's proof to me that if a girl is mentally healthy, somewhat attractive, and genuinely wants a relationship, she will find one VERY quickly. If she's focused on getting a top dog, enjoys the attention, thinks she's better than any man who'd date online, then she'll be on the site for months.

I came across this story, from a dating coach worthy of the name, Evan Marc Katz. He's actually gotten endorsements from a couple manosphere/pickup bloggers.

'Evan Marc Katz Wrote:

Karin is tall, thin and blonde. She’s a former dancer who makes a good living as a doctor. She’s a patron of the arts, an animal lover, and has a quick wit.

Karin is also 42, never married, and desperately wants children.

I took her on as a Commitment Course client because she’s highly motivated.

Yet the second we started working together, Karin began to dictate how our coaching would go – and thus gave me a small glimpse of why she’s single at 42.

“I’m not going to date online. Only weirdos who do that. What if someone sees me? I’d be too embarrassed. The kind of men I’m looking for don’t date online.”

“I think you tell women to settle. I’m not going to settle. I haven’t waited this long to find love only to be with a man who is beneath my standards.”

And so on. And so forth.

I reminded Karin that 50 million people have tried online dating. I reminded her that if a man sees her online, he can’t judge her because he’s dating online as well.

The first three weeks of coaching Karin, we literally didn’t do any coaching.

All I did was cajole her into putting her profile on Match.com so we could actually have, you know, DATES to discuss during the rest of her coaching.

I reminded Karin that 50 million people have tried online dating.

I reminded her that if a man sees her online, he can’t judge her because he’s dating online as well.

I reminded her that my wife, my mom, my sister, my sister’s husband, my wife’s best friend, my wife’s best friend’s husband and pretty much every other single person I know has tried it. And we’re not all losers.

Finally, Karin got her professional photos and professional profile up on Match.

It was like magic. Even though Karin was in a highly unpopular demographic (42 and looking to have babies) she still got tons of attention online. Scores of men. Attractive men. Successful men. Age-appropriate men.

Quickly, Karin realized that her fears were considerably overstated.

Within weeks, Karin found herself dating a good guy named Gary. They’d gone out 3 or 4 times and he always followed up immediately to see her again. Moreover, he was enthusiastic, cute, successful and very much interested in Karin as a girlfriend.

Naturally, Karin started second-guessing her own interest him.

“He’s too nice,” she said. “He always asks for my opinion on what to do on dates. Why is he so eager to please?”

Didn’t you complain that in your last passionate love affair, you never knew where you stood with the guy? That he wasn’t considerate enough?

“Yes, but—How about the fact that Gary is a teacher who drives a Toyota? How can he support me? What are my Mercedes-driving friends going to think?”

You’re a doctor; he doesn’t have to support you. And who cares what your friends think as long as you’re happy in your relationship?

“Yeah, well, the other day, in the museum, he made a joke about a modernist sculpture. I thought it was so classless of him to do that when an artist poured his heart and soul into creating it.”

He made a joke about a piece of art? And you want to break up with him for it?

“He apologized to me the next day because he saw how it upset me, but all I could think was: why did you make that dumb joke in the first place?”

Because it was funny? Because it was no big deal? Because everyone makes jokes about modern art? Either way, Karin, the fact that he apologized to you when he’s done nothing wrong means that you’re dating a saint. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss him.

After a half-hour of back and forth, Karin made her decision.

She was dumping Gary.

He was too safe.

He was too nice.

He wasn’t able to support her financially.

And if this wasn’t enough, Karin simply didn’t feel what she was supposed to feel.

Fair enough.

I told Karin that I didn’t care about Gary, per se, but that if she were going to achieve her goal of finding love, she should start giving men like Gary a closer look.

She’d spent 42 years chasing exciting, charismatic, unpredictable, wildly attractive men…and here she was with a dating coach trying to figure out where she went wrong.

“THIS is where you’ve gone wrong”, I told her. “THIS is your chance to correct it.”

But Karin’s mind was made up.

She broke it off with Gary and they agreed to “remain friends”.

She put herself back on Match.com and prepared herself for the flood of responses that she got in her first month online.

Two weeks later, Karin was crying to me on the phone.

“The responses have slowed down”, she told me.

“The quality of the guys has gotten worse,” she observed.

“I’m really worried that I made a mistake,” she whimpered.

Instead of playing the “I told you so” card, I continued to support Karin’s dream.

I didn’t tell her she blew it with Gary; I did remind her that the Garys of the world – cute, smart, thoughtful, patient, relationship-oriented – were the type of men she should consider whenever they come along.

I told her that everyone goes through online dry spells and that a new guy will emerge in a matter of weeks. Promise.

Two weeks later, Karin revealed that she and Gary were “hanging out as friends” when he suddenly kissed her.

And after further reflection, she would give Gary – and their relationship – another shot.

Sure, it was a happy ending – another client who achieved her goal and got her money’s worth – but I didn’t have a warm and fuzzy feeling about it. Why?

Because Karin was still the same person she was before – neurotic, critical, unrealistic, and bound to dissect Gary and dump him in favor of a fantasy man who would never commit to her.

So imagine my surprise last week when I received this email from Karin:

Hi Evan!

I can’t believe it’s taken me so long to tell you this, but… I’m married! To Gary – the man about whom you were coaching me when we parted. We had an amazingly beautiful and intimate wedding with 50 guests. We honeymooned in Tahiti.

Needless to say, this is a dream come true for me. I am so happy, because I feel safe and secure with a man who is devoted to me. He is everything I was looking for – although it took you to make me realize that. Of all the thank-you notes I have written (and have yet still to write …), yours is the most important to me – because there is no way I would be a happily married woman today without you.

Gary is everything I need, and more – but I still couldn’t fully accept that when you and I finished off in February. At that time, I still couldn’t help looking for perfection, magnifying shortcomings, and not accepting what was most important: unwavering interest in me as a person, following through on commitments, and truly wanting the same things I wanted in a relationship. I still wasn’t appreciating Gary’s amazingly hot body, razor-sharp intellect, and unique life experiences he had created for himself. Or that he made me breakfast in bed, put up with my neuroses, and just wanted to be with me. All I saw was that he didn’t create a Fortune 500 company, drive a Tesla, or lunch regularly with Gavin Newsom. Yes, I am ashamed.

There is no way I would have gotten to that point without you, Evan. No chance I have found Gary and let him into my heart if it hadn’t been for you. You were instrumental every step of the way: from that incredible online profile, to actually getting me to put it online (an entirely separate step, as you well know), to coaching me through all those first dates, to helping me realize why Gary was the kind of guy I should be with … I can’t thank you enough.

I continue to read your weekly post, and I couldn’t agree more with everything you say (yes, pretty much everything). For any woman who wants a real and meaningful relationship but continues coming up short, you are the man for the job to figure out where the stumbling blocks lie and implement a personalized plan to overcome them. Or via the ebook – I bet it is just as helpful for those who want a more economical approach to coaching (although you were worth every penny I plan on reading it once the dust settles on setting up a new household (and those thank-you notes are written …) because it will not only speak to my fascination with human relationships but also keep me abreast of how you communicate your wisdom. Regardless of how women want to go about finding the relationship they want and need, you are the one to help them find it.

You sure did it for me. I have a mature, supportive, satisfying, committed relationship (it’s even a marriage!), and I am so happy. Thank you so much for everything!!

All my best,

Karin

You know what I did when I got this email?

I ran into the kitchen to find my wife.

Tears were brimming out of my eyes.

I couldn’t believe that Karin found true love – much less gave me credit for it.

I know this is a long blog post.

I know that it can be interpreted as egocentric or self-aggrandizing.

But you know what?

I just think it’s inspiring.

I spend a lot of time writing about sad things: men who lie, men who cheat, men who won’t commit, etc.

This blog doesn’t change the fact that these men are still out there.

Still, I think Karin’s email is a useful reminder that you MUST have hope.

Karin didn’t believe in online dating.

She dated online.

Karin didn’t believe in compromising.

She compromised.

Karin didn’t think she had to accept anything less than a perfect man because she’d held out for so long.

She accepted Gary.

And she WON.

If you’ve been sitting on the sidelines, wondering why love isn’t finding you, ask yourself if you’re willing to do what Karin did: look within, challenge yourself, and open up to a whole new way of thinking.

Who knows? You could be next.

The man is doing God's work. Still, think about what it took - she was 42 and childless. It took hours and hours of stern admonishments from Coach Katz, for her to even consider Gary. And even then she dropped him. She only came back because she couldn't get another man. It took puncturing her ego for her to love.

If this chick was 22, she wouldn't be talking to a dating coach, she wouldn't be in a rush to have kids, and she'd have no trouble finding other suitable men. Hell, she probably wouldn't even want commitment.

[Timoteo]

(03-23-2012 12:11 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(03-23-2012 08:55 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

We can't be the only ones outraged by these profiles. I wouldn't be surprised if these girls are already getting trolled. Prediction: OK Cupid pushes rule where you can't send negative messages to members.

The problem with online dating is that it's all about money, it's run by complete fucking nerds, and it's inveterately conformist.

I tried a couple interesting new services, which suffer from a lack of users, but they did make an admirable attempt at innovating. One, How About We, focuses on going on dates, and keeps profiles minimalistic, to just get people to meet up first and decide what happens later.

Sometimes I've gotten a girl's number, and then for whatever reason we don't meet up soon. I get back to her a week or two later, and she's already dating someone. Hasn't happened too much, but it's proof to me that if a girl is mentally healthy, somewhat attractive, and genuinely wants a relationship, she will find one VERY quickly. If she's focused on getting a top dog, enjoys the attention, thinks she's better than any man who'd date online, then she'll be on the site for months.

I came across this story, from a dating coach worthy of the name, Evan Marc Katz. He's actually gotten endorsements from a couple manosphere/pickup bloggers.

Evan Marc Katz]Karin is tall, thin and blonde. She’s a former dancer who makes a good living as a doctor. She’s a patron of the arts, an animal lover, and has a quick wit.

Karin is also 42, never married, and desperately wants children.

I took her on as a Commitment Course client because she’s highly motivated.

Yet the second we started working together, Karin began to dictate how our coaching would go – and thus gave me a small glimpse of why she’s single at 42.

“I’m not going to date online. Only weirdos who do that. What if someone sees me? I’d be too embarrassed. The kind of men I’m looking for don’t date online.”

“I think you tell women to settle. I’m not going to settle. I haven’t waited this long to find love only to be with a man who is beneath my standards.”

And so on. And so forth.

I reminded Karin that 50 million people have tried online dating. I reminded her that if a man sees her online, he can’t judge her because he’s dating online as well.

The first three weeks of coaching Karin, we literally didn’t do any coaching.

All I did was cajole her into putting her profile on Match.com so we could actually have, you know, DATES to discuss during the rest of her coaching.

I reminded Karin that 50 million people have tried online dating.

I reminded her that if a man sees her online, he can’t judge her because he’s dating online as well.

I reminded her that my wife, my mom, my sister, my sister’s husband, my wife’s best friend, my wife’s best friend’s husband and pretty much every other single person I know has tried it. And we’re not all losers.

Finally, Karin got her professional photos and professional profile up on Match.

It was like magic. Even though Karin was in a highly unpopular demographic (42 and looking to have babies) she still got tons of attention online. Scores of men. Attractive men. Successful men. Age-appropriate men.

Quickly, Karin realized that her fears were considerably overstated.

Within weeks, Karin found herself dating a good guy named Gary. They’d gone out 3 or 4 times and he always followed up immediately to see her again. Moreover, he was enthusiastic, cute, successful and very much interested in Karin as a girlfriend.

Naturally, Karin started second-guessing her own interest him.

“He’s too nice,” she said. “He always asks for my opinion on what to do on dates. Why is he so eager to please?”

Didn’t you complain that in your last passionate love affair, you never knew where you stood with the guy? That he wasn’t considerate enough?

“Yes, but—How about the fact that Gary is a teacher who drives a Toyota? How can he support me? What are my Mercedes-driving friends going to think?”

You’re a doctor; he doesn’t have to support you. And who cares what your friends think as long as you’re happy in your relationship?

“Yeah, well, the other day, in the museum, he made a joke about a modernist sculpture. I thought it was so classless of him to do that when an artist poured his heart and soul into creating it.”

He made a joke about a piece of art? And you want to break up with him for it?

“He apologized to me the next day because he saw how it upset me, but all I could think was: why did you make that dumb joke in the first place?”

Because it was funny? Because it was no big deal? Because everyone makes jokes about modern art? Either way, Karin, the fact that he apologized to you when he’s done nothing wrong means that you’re dating a saint. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss him.

After a half-hour of back and forth, Karin made her decision.

She was dumping Gary.

He was too safe.

He was too nice.

He wasn’t able to support her financially.

And if this wasn’t enough, Karin simply didn’t feel what she was supposed to feel.

Fair enough.

I told Karin that I didn’t care about Gary, per se, but that if she were going to achieve her goal of finding love, she should start giving men like Gary a closer look.

She’d spent 42 years chasing exciting, charismatic, unpredictable, wildly attractive men…and here she was with a dating coach trying to figure out where she went wrong.

“THIS is where you’ve gone wrong”, I told her. “THIS is your chance to correct it.”

But Karin’s mind was made up.

She broke it off with Gary and they agreed to “remain friends”.

She put herself back on Match.com and prepared herself for the flood of responses that she got in her first month online.

Two weeks later, Karin was crying to me on the phone.

“The responses have slowed down”, she told me.

“The quality of the guys has gotten worse,” she observed.

“I’m really worried that I made a mistake,” she whimpered.

Instead of playing the “I told you so” card, I continued to support Karin’s dream.

I didn’t tell her she blew it with Gary; I did remind her that the Garys of the world – cute, smart, thoughtful, patient, relationship-oriented – were the type of men she should consider whenever they come along.

I told her that everyone goes through online dry spells and that a new guy will emerge in a matter of weeks. Promise.

Two weeks later, Karin revealed that she and Gary were “hanging out as friends” when he suddenly kissed her.

And after further reflection, she would give Gary – and their relationship – another shot.

Sure, it was a happy ending – another client who achieved her goal and got her money’s worth – but I didn’t have a warm and fuzzy feeling about it. Why?

Because Karin was still the same person she was before – neurotic, critical, unrealistic, and bound to dissect Gary and dump him in favor of a fantasy man who would never commit to her.

So imagine my surprise last week when I received this email from Karin:

Hi Evan!

I can’t believe it’s taken me so long to tell you this, but… I’m married! To Gary – the man about whom you were coaching me when we parted. We had an amazingly beautiful and intimate wedding with 50 guests. We honeymooned in Tahiti.

Needless to say, this is a dream come true for me. I am so happy, because I feel safe and secure with a man who is devoted to me. He is everything I was looking for – although it took you to make me realize that. Of all the thank-you notes I have written (and have yet still to write …), yours is the most important to me – because there is no way I would be a happily married woman today without you.

Gary is everything I need, and more – but I still couldn’t fully accept that when you and I finished off in February. At that time, I still couldn’t help looking for perfection, magnifying shortcomings, and not accepting what was most important: unwavering interest in me as a person, following through on commitments, and truly wanting the same things I wanted in a relationship. I still wasn’t appreciating Gary’s amazingly hot body, razor-sharp intellect, and unique life experiences he had created for himself. Or that he made me breakfast in bed, put up with my neuroses, and just wanted to be with me. All I saw was that he didn’t create a Fortune 500 company, drive a Tesla, or lunch regularly with Gavin Newsom. Yes, I am ashamed.

There is no way I would have gotten to that point without you, Evan. No chance I have found Gary and let him into my heart if it hadn’t been for you. You were instrumental every step of the way: from that incredible online profile, to actually getting me to put it online (an entirely separate step, as you well know), to coaching me through all those first dates, to helping me realize why Gary was the kind of guy I should be with … I can’t thank you enough.

I continue to read your weekly post, and I couldn’t agree more with everything you say (yes, pretty much everything). For any woman who wants a real and meaningful relationship but continues coming up short, you are the man for the job to figure out where the stumbling blocks lie and implement a personalized plan to overcome them. Or via the ebook – I bet it is just as helpful for those who want a more economical approach to coaching (although you were worth every penny I plan on reading it once the dust settles on setting up a new household (and those thank-you notes are written …) because it will not only speak to my fascination with human relationships but also keep me abreast of how you communicate your wisdom. Regardless of how women want to go about finding the relationship they want and need, you are the one to help them find it.

You sure did it for me. I have a mature, supportive, satisfying, committed relationship (it’s even a marriage!), and I am so happy. Thank you so much for everything!!

All my best,

Karin

You know what I did when I got this email?

I ran into the kitchen to find my wife.

Tears were brimming out of my eyes.

I couldn’t believe that Karin found true love – much less gave me credit for it.

I know this is a long blog post.

I know that it can be interpreted as egocentric or self-aggrandizing.

But you know what?

I just think it’s inspiring.

I spend a lot of time writing about sad things: men who lie, men who cheat, men who won’t commit, etc.

This blog doesn’t change the fact that these men are still out there.

Still, I think Karin’s email is a useful reminder that you MUST have hope.

Karin didn’t believe in online dating.

She dated online.

Karin didn’t believe in compromising.

She compromised.

Karin didn’t think she had to accept anything less than a perfect man because she’d held out for so long.

She accepted Gary.

And she WON.

If you’ve been sitting on the sidelines, wondering why love isn’t finding you, ask yourself if you’re willing to do what Karin did: look within, challenge yourself, and open up to a whole new way of thinking.

Who knows? You could be next.

The man is doing Gods work. Still, think about what it took - she was 42 and childless. It took hours and hours of stern admonishments from Coach Katz, for her to even consider Gary. And even then she dropped him. [b Wrote:She only came back because she couldn't get another man. It took puncturing her ego for her to love. [/b]

If this chick was 22, she wouldn't be talking to a dating coach, she wouldn't be in a rush to have kids, and she'd have no trouble finding other suitable men. Hell, she probably wouldn't even want commitment.

I copy/pasted and saved that story on my laptop. I can't wait to send it to chicks I know that complain about not finding someone. Her clock was running out...she was in the final seconds infact, but STILL held riggidly to the very "principles" that saw her single into her 40s, and probably having to resort to in-vitro to have a kid.

[Tuthmosis]

Wow. That Evan Marc Katz story was kick-ass, basil. And, he's repping hard for the Jews to boot. Let's hear a pertinent little Talmud verse about this!

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I like Evan Marc-Katz, on some issues he sugarcoats things a bit too much, but I've never heard any calls about "manning up" from him, and he dispenses generally useful advice (as far as advice can be to females, whose main problem is standards/attitude rather than game/technique).

[Tuthmosis]

Here's a new one.

Never fear, Super Fatty is here!

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Straight-up nasty imagery.

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Probably would impress Mechanico.

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Bragging about disgusting behavior:

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Who says beggars can't be choosers:

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[Screwston]

Can someone explain why girls brag about pissing in alleyways, changing tires, shooting guns, playing sports, etc? Do they seriously think guys find that shit attractive?

[Tuthmosis]

Here's a real gem. I saw this right as my "guest" for tonight is making her way to my pad and couldn't resist!

   

   

[Hotwheels]

Wrap a flag around her head and do it for your country?

[Screwston]

Quote:


I'm a jetsetter, a revolutionary woman...

Looking for a real man, no liars or cheaters please. If you are married, go away.
I have a beautiful personality so, please don't ruin it with stupidity. If you have issues from a past relationship or other baggage, go get over it! Leave me alone.

I very much want to find the person I am destined to be with.

Message me if you have a stable job, are responsible and are ready for a serious relationship. If you have children or have been married, don't message me. Possessive, controlling, insecure and jealous men need not apply!

Must be able to wear a suit when necessary. (No clown suits, no spandex suits, and no leprechaun suits - no leprechauns for that matter. Armani suits welcome.) Here is a guide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suit_%28clothing%29 Also, attend social events of any kind and not have issues with the international world.

Must have an ambition for sustaining love. Must be good at getting a fire started and keeping it going.

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DanaPayton : want someone to spoil me
The names Dana Im a fun girl I love to do anything outdoor or indoor im very easygoing and down for anything fishing, shopping, the beach etc.. I love good 70's music and oldies I try to make the best of everything because you only live once (: FYI No one under the t age of 38 im not a Cougar not racist NO BLACKS

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sia16918 The Shark: Can you sweep me off my feet?
I am a pretty laid back person I really do not like alot of drama. I am just looking for someone to hang out with, who is real. I do not want a man that is a control freak or a liar or just wants a piece of a**. I am just looking for someone that is honest & down to earth. Just because I am on here does not mean I am willing to settle for just any body. I do NOT need a man I am just hoping to find a friend, a partner and an equal. So if you are the type of man that thinks he can control his woman or wants a woman who will jump when he says jump just go ahead and hit that next button because I am not that girl. I have ran accross alot of jerks on here so forgive me for being blunt I am just honest if you cant handle that, then again I'm not the girl for you. If you are an honest, sweet loyal guy and not offended by this then drop me a line I would love to hear from you.

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I enjoy live and try living it to the fullest. I am fun, upbeat spontaneous big beautiful woman that is a lady and expected to be treated like one. I enjoy being around positive, fun people that also enjoy life. Looking for a gentleman that knows how to not just talk the talk but walk the walk. Enjoy traveling, going to sporting events and spending time with my family. I am very new to the area since the company I have been with for 15 years decided to relocate me to the big city of Houston.

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About Me
I do NOT respond to one line messages (wth do I have to repeat that?) I dont need a date, I dont need a easy lay... I dont have chemistry with most people.. I dont expect to find anyone.. I'm pansexual and polyamory.. I dont give a damn about negative opinions, and Im not a hooker but if I could no one could afford me isnt enough money in the universe. What I would like is friends.. why the hell cant I pick males & females with friend options.. I do not respond to one line messages.. My name is Kitty.. Not sexy not baby not honey not anything like that.. Wonder if Im real? Google me.. I have my own personal information site JKK, twitter, last.fm, get glue, fb fanpage and more (I do not accept adds on my personal FB, it is for family and close friends.) let me repeat this a few times so everyone understands clearly..
I do not accept adds on my personal FB, it is for family and ALREADY close friends... Do I really have to say it again?

Dont ask me for my phone number
Dont ask me where I live
I dont like one line messages.
I dont like bullshit.
I don't like Sports.
I dont like stalkers.
I dont like douchebags.
I dont like uppity people.
I dobt like guys that wear glitter clothes (i.e. Ed hardy and affliction)
I don't like country boys, I don't like country music
I don't like racism.
I don't play darts, pool, go "partying" or drinking.
I don't like rap, pop or hip hop (there are few exceptions to the rule)
Im CEO of my own company and run a site soon to launch called SinfulKittens..
I take care of my partially disabled mom mon-fri.. I moved home to take care of her.. I run a donation program for helping her and the animal rescue she runs that I help with.. We take in small and exotic animals, mostly damaged, disabled, some dying...

I do model nude. No I will NOT send you pics.. No it is not some high paying job.. No I do NOT do porn.. But some of the models that work with me do.

I do not drive.. I do not give out my address..




Someone stole my last profile... So Im not sticking around here.. I came back to tell a really nice person thank you...

Oh and whoever stole my first profile.. Theres a special place in hell for ppl like you..

To all the awesome ppl Ive met here.. Thank you.


I do like
hello kitty
horror movies
jack skellington
happy bunny
tinker bell
books
theater
anything but opera
bright colors
tech
crafts
clothing making
working on my company
cooking
family
theater
plays (anything but opera)






First Date
No
But if I WERE Looking for someone
If it were female I'd be looking for a girl like Kenzi from Lost Girl (show on Syfy)

Below are a list of tributes I look for in males, and some females (some are obviously non female related like height)

must be sexually attractive to me I guess is a given, and local within 30 mins of me, but other then that...
must be at MIN 5 yrs older then me..
must be at least my height but I prefer taller like 6'2..
I adore light colored clear eyes, as in not muddled or extensively color changing (blue, green, gray)
intelligent..
talented in their profession..
self sufficient..
healthy and physically fit..
not a douche..
funny..
charming..
can cook well and healthy foods.
doesn't care if I don't understand the concept of folding my clothes or places them in normal clothes places.
loves my shoes.
understanding of intense sarcasm..
accepting of my non monogamous ways..
must heartily believe in foreplay..
be kinky in bed..
and enjoy things of a dark nature (i.e. horror movies and things).
not be overly into sports preferably dislike sports but I can deal with general interest in them.
someone I can actually spend time and do things with other then have sex...
someone fun..
that has time for me..
who likes animals..
gets along with the tribe I call my family..
doesn't need marriage
doesn't need kids from me
doesn't need me to move in with him.
that doesn't give a damn that I don't drive..
& someone who won't give me up to date another girl like so many have..

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Im sassy, spoiled, blunt, bi**hy, bossy, naive, impatient, fiesty! Im also – blessed, loving, caring, devoted, trustworthy, imaginative, adventurous, cultured! Im a mother to two beautiful, lively twin boyz that are 10 and are my entire world!! I love my brother and my family like any daughter/woman should. I get sidetracked by pretty, shiny things....oooo look one now... I love the simple things in life- like a good dvd and pizza or camping with s’mores by the bonfire. But – I also enjoy a good 5 star hotel with designer sheets in downtown with a lemon martini and stilettos! You can look me up on face bk (stormy jackson)

**I want to be in Love and fall easily**

I Just Want To Find My One And Only - To Cuddle Up With When It Gets Chilly....I want someone to hug me and kiss me when they're walk thru the door and see me....I want to be wanted ...like u deserve to be


First Date
Anything Fun and Outgoing! If I eat at a Buffet, I have to take a nap afterwards...If its a scarey movie - it has to be in the DAYTIME! Im afraid of heights but if you cover my eyes its ALL GOOD! I dont like to sweat...it makes me swell ...Escalators are scarey~I think my toes are going to get sucked in!

+Life is what you make of it - so bring the Chocolate and High Heels cuz HERE I COME!+

:eople who say Sunshine brings happiness have never Danced In The Rain.::

>>****if you dont live close to me- i will NOT write u back. it would be a waste of MY time and URS. but good luck in ur search!!****

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About Me
IM A 32 YR OLD SINGLE GOOD LOOKING FEMALE,THAT IS LOOKING FOR MY PRINCE. I AM NOT ON HERE TO FIND ME A F***K BUDDY ... SO IF THATS WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR THEN,THEN JUST STOP READING NOW..I AM A VERY OUTGOING,ADVENTEROUS,FUN,KIND, BIG HEARTED,SPONTANEOUS FEMALE... I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB AS A NURSE AND WHEN I'M NOT AT WORK I LOVE TO PLAY SOFTBALL ,RIGHT NOW I AM PLAYING THREE NIGHTS A WEEK. BUT SINCE THE WEATHER IS GETTING COOLER I WILL BE SLOWING DOWN TO START PLAYING INDOOR VOLLEYBALL.... WHEN I HAVE THE TIME I LOVE TO SPEND IT WITH THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS.... MY MOM IS MY ONLY PARENT THAT I HAVE. MY DAD PASSED AWAY ALMOST 3 YRS AGO AND SHE IS MY WORLD.. I WOULD DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING FOR HER... I AM LOOKING FOR A NICE KIND BIG HEARTED GUY THAT CAN EXCEPT ME FOR WHO I AM,AND WHAT I DO... I WILL NOT CHANGE FOR NO MAN...

I WOULD LIKE A MAN THAT IS ATHLETIC,FUN, ADVENTEROUS, AND SPONTANEOUS.. HE MUST KNOW WHERE HE WANTS TO BE IN LIKE 2 YRS..... SO IF U HAVE WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR THEN HIT ME UP... BUT IF UR JUS LOOKING FOR A FRIEND WITH BENEFITS ... THEN SORRY TO SAY ... KICK ROCKS FOOL.......

First Date
ON MY FIRST DATE, I WOULD LIKE TO GO SOMEWHERE THAT IS CASUAL BUT QUITE ,SO THAT WE COULD SIT DOWN AND GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER... I AM WILLING TO GO DIFFERENT PLACE AND TRY NEW ACTIVITIES....

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About Me
"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."

[Screwston]

Quote:


About Me
"I can't believe you're on here, are you really single?" I have heard that a few times and it has prompted me to go ahead and address this here to save us both some time. Yes. I am single. Why is that so hard to believe? Yes. I am really 38. And yes I'm to pretty to be lied to, cheated on an played with. I need someone refreshing. Fascinating. That can keep my interest, and hold my attention. I don't care for meeting someone in a bar, THAT never works out!

I have a little sass and a little class to me. I am a very blunt and independent woman. I work hard for everything I have and wouldn’t change a thing about me or my life for the world. I like to get dirty, muddy and greasy. No make up and a ball cap. Hang out with the guys. But I also like to get dressed up and be treated like a princess. My 2 kids are my world so if you cant do kids then move on…. Negativity will not be tolerated. I'm a fun person. Very laid back. And can adapt to just about any environment and situation.. I do have morals and values and God is #1 in my life. I don't attend church everytime the doors are open but I know that without God in my life, I would be miserable.

So there is a little about me.. and PLEASE don't ask, "What do you do for fun?" If it's fun , I am gonna do it. And if I have never tried it, I will most likely try it twice.

I love camping, lakes and anything outdoors and yes I can bait my own hook. Don't care for any drama and not much on the bar scene. I like just about any kind of music. I'm not the jealous type and tend to be very trusting.

FYI- I'm a respectable person please don't disrespect me with your sexual preferences towards me by messaging with what you wanna do to me if your that disrespective towards women then we know the real reason on why your single..take some advice go get you a blowup doll she won't mind you being a disrepectable arrogant jerk...its a win win situation for everyone..

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Hello my name is Macy (yes, that's really my name and yes that's how you spell it). I live around the Houston area just eighteen miles east. I come from a small town with two stop lights but a ton of stop signs. I am a full time student at a junior college going for my associates in communication. Hopefully by next year i can graduate and get my new car cause Lord knows I need one. I work part time at a country bar working as a beer tub girl. but, I can bartend (please don't ask me "if i were to come into your bar what would you make me" cause I'm pretty sure 99.9% sure I will NOT reply back. I am a natural blonde but not this color. I'm very loud and out going and i'm not afraid to speak my mind and if i have something to say i will say it in your face. i love to go out and party and then some nights i just like to stay at home and watch good movies and eat a slice of cheesecake.

okay guys, so i'm wondering what is my type. well here it is. i like guys who are taller than me ( which won't be a problem cause i'm 5'5), i only date white guys ( i'm not racist by any means but that's just what i like but if you think you can change my mind you are more than welcome to try but it sure won't happen, i like guys who dress good, HAVE TO BE FUNNY just not funny looking, have to have a nice vehicle, HAS TO HAVE A JOB, likes the fine things, if you message me more than likely i will look at your photos and see your profile and if i'm interested i will message you back if not just don't keep sending me messages. THAT'S REALLY ****ING ANNOYING. oh and if your a guy and "u send mssgs lyke dis" JUST DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT MESSAGING ME CAUSE I WILL PROBABLY LAUGH AND CALL YOU OUT.

i loveeeee music. all types of music (don't send me a message asking me what all my favorite type of music is... i will slap you.) but really though music is the biggest universal language ever...

i think that's about it... if i forgot something else well... oops

[Deluge]

Oh god, the Macy one makes me cringe. Any girl who says "HAS TO HAVE A JOB" implies most of the guys she's fucked, didn't have jobs. Also she looks like a fucking chipmunk. How can she think anybody would take her seriously when she presents herself like that?

" junior college going for my associates in communication." What's "Communication" supposed to be? I've never heard of that as a major in Australia.

[Excelsior]

(03-25-2012 02:20 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Oh god, the Macy one makes me cringe. Any girl who says "HAS TO HAVE A JOB" implies most of the guys she's fucked, didn't have jobs. Also she looks like a fucking chipmunk. How can she think anybody would take her seriously when she presents herself like that?

" junior college going for my associates in communication." What's "Communication" supposed to be? I've never heard of that as a major in Australia.

It is basically what it sounds like: the study of human communication. Sometimes called "media studies", among other similar names. Career wise, it can lead you into the media, entertainment, marketing, teaching, or even designing.
This major is often stereotyped here as sort of a "chick major" (for the ditzy sorority girl), and not a very rigorous/serious one at that. If studied at a decent school, though, I'm sure it could actually be useful for somebody who is serious about media/entertainment/marketing as a career.

[Tuthmosis]

@houston's profiles are solid gold.

One of many, many gems in there:

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DanaPayton
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FYI No one under the t age of 38 im not a Cougar not racist NO BLACKS

   

[Tuthmosis]

Here's another one of those nerdy, average-looking, and unabashedly "polyamorous" (slutty) types that I've written about before in other threads.

This one is special because of the hamster logic in her declarations about sex. See if you can spot it.

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