[assman]

I've had a fuckbuddy the last couple of months. Other than the usual sexual appetite satiation issue (i.e., no real motivation to hunt for new pussy), it's been great. Until she asked me to co-sign her auto lease. WTF was she thinking? Of course I refused.

Funny thing is she had an orbiter who was doting on her. She was getting tired of his constant hanging around, but I told her to keep him around in case he came in handy. She should've listened, I'm sure he would have been happy to co-sign.

Anyway, she's been no contact with me since. A shame, because she had a slamming body and we were barebacking. Banging a new chick with a rubber is going to suck after this.

Any thoughts on how I might be able to salvage this? Not even sure she got another car if she couldn't get someone to co-sign, and her old lease was up, so she might be in a real bind and pissed that I didn't help.

[Sphere]

Abundance mentality requires that you not care.

Salvage by not worrying about it. Go find something else. If she contacts you again you know what to do.

[assman]

(03-05-2012 01:40 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

Abundance mentality requires that you not care.

Salvage by not worrying about it. Go find something else. If she contacts you again you know what to do.

I recognize that this is good advice, and normally, this would be my default attitude. But there are two factors that make me want to salvage things.

1. bareback sex - for me, the difference between condoms and bareback is such that the breakeven between bareback familiar pussy vs. covered strange is ~1.5-2 pts (i.e., I'd rather bareback familiar pussy than go covered with strange unless the strange was 2pts hotter on a 1-10 scale)

2. I think she is open to couples swapping, which would be a great way to leverage myself into the pants of women that are otherwise off the market. Like an idiot, I didn't pursue this earlier because I didn't anticipate this auto loan relationship snafu.

[AntiTrace]

how long has she gone without contact. If its less than 48 hours I wouldn't waste a second thinking about it.

But I do feel your motive and wanting to salvage it. If it goes more than 48 hours I would contact her but ignore the car subject. If she brings it up, stand your ground. You manage your own finances, no one else.

[assman]

LOL, can't make this shit up, just got a text from another chick (college student) I've fooled around with (no bang) telling me that her phone is getting cut off. Bitches be trippin. If you want a man to pay for your car, your cellphone, etc., save your pussy for a serious boyfriend or husband.

[Gmac]

There are tons of guys out there who DO shell out cash for these bitches. She could ask every guy she knows, all she needs is for one to say yes.

[j r]

(03-05-2012 05:22 PM)assman Wrote:  

LOL, can't make this shit up, just got a text from another chick (college student) I've fooled around with (no bang) telling me that her phone is getting cut off. Bitches be trippin. If you want a man to pay for your car, your cellphone, etc., save your pussy for a serious boyfriend or husband.

I'm curious. In what part of the country are you? The only time I've experienced girls like this was the time I spent in Army towns.

[j r]

Also, how long where you hanging out with this chick. For me, FWB situations tend to only last about three or four months. After that, they either find someone willing to commit or it becomes obvious that they want more and I end it.

[Timoteo]

My guess is no, you can't salvage. Nor should you want to. This is the shit they do - pussy is almost never free. She felt it was okay to ask you to co-sign her auto lease because YOU were getting something from her. In her mind, she probably felt you owed it to her. The moment you said no, she felt used and hurt, and her pussy dried right up. She knows you're not under the spell of the pussy deep enough to manipulate you into committing in any significant way, so she's done.

[assman]

(03-05-2012 05:30 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

There are tons of guys out there who DO shell out cash for these bitches. She could ask every guy she knows, all she needs is for one to say yes.

Very true. I just heard back from her. Still has her old car, which means she couldn't find a cosigner. I wonder if she'll go make nice with her former orbiter and get him to cosign, but I think she has too much pride and/or integrity to do that - I give her credit on the integrity front for breaking things off with the orbiter even though he was very helpful to her and despite my urging her to keep him around.

(03-05-2012 06:19 PM)j r Wrote:  

(03-05-2012 05:22 PM)assman Wrote:  

LOL, can't make this shit up, just got a text from another chick (college student) I've fooled around with (no bang) telling me that her phone is getting cut off. Bitches be trippin. If you want a man to pay for your car, your cellphone, etc., save your pussy for a serious boyfriend or husband.

I'm curious. In what part of the country are you? The only time I've experienced girls like this was the time I spent in Army towns.

Raleigh NC. I get the sense that guys paying for things for girls is more common and expected down here than it is in, say, NYC, where women tend to be more independent (of course NYC girls give it up for cash too, but I've found they don't expect guys to pay for things as much as they do down here, but too small a data sample down here to know for sure).

(03-05-2012 06:20 PM)j r Wrote:  

Also, how long where you hanging out with this chick. For me, FWB situations tend to only last about three or four months. After that, they either find someone willing to commit or it becomes obvious that they want more and I end it.

About 2.5 months, averaging 1x/week. You're right, these FWB relationships are unstable and have a very short half-life. Should've made a cast of her ass while I had the chance.

(03-05-2012 08:34 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

My guess is no, you can't salvage. Nor should you want to. This is the shit they do - pussy is almost never free. She felt it was okay to ask you to co-sign her auto lease because YOU were getting something from her. In her mind, she probably felt you owed it to her. The moment you said no, she felt used and hurt, and her pussy dried right up. She knows you're not under the spell of the pussy deep enough to manipulate you into committing in any significant way, so she's done.

I think you're right - this refusal may have crystallized for her that she has been giving her body to a man who will not be there when she really needs him, while she could have been securing herself a white knight who would be there. Plus the prior point about the age of the relationship; take these two together, and yeah, it's probably finished.

Thanks guys. Lesson learned: when a woman seems open to the possibility of threesomes or couples swaps, jump on that shit right away and don't wait assuming that she will be there a month from now.

Still, I'll leave the door open for her if she wants to come back. I've seen that happen before where the girl decides that a FWB situation is not an even trade and then goes on a few dates with needy boys and finds herself in need of some man cum to wash the beta drool off her.

[Sphere]

So much wisdom in this thread.

I'm always learning.

Thanks sincerely to all.

Assman: cheers, I'm in that dirty little city to the north of you.

[oldnemesis]

(03-05-2012 08:34 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

She felt it was okay to ask you to co-sign her auto lease because YOU were getting something from her. In her mind, she probably felt you owed it to her.

This may be true, but the things are quite out of balance. I really doubt her pussy is worth that much, and I really doubt she thinks it does. So the OP did the right thing, and now she knows her pussy is not worth that much to him. She'll however be inclined to call back as she's now interested to know her value. Remember, most girls do not come with a fixed value like guys, her value is always changing and she needs our feedback to figure out her worth.