[ElJefe]

maybe i'm kidding myself, but my sweat REEKS of ammonia by midweek. It smells like cat-piss, it's diabolical.

I would hope with the intense exercise level, glucogen levels are totally depleted already monday.

[alecks]

(05-17-2012 08:39 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 08:34 AM)Walnuts Wrote:  

i thought ketosis took a lot longer than a few days to kick in?

definitely does for me. after 8 weeks of it i did a carb loading day on sunday and here it is thursday and still not back.

frustrating

you do know there are supplements that can get you into ketosis much quicker? ever heard of insulin mimickers/glucose disposal agents etc?

things like chromium,cinnamon, r alpha lipoic acid,banaba leaf,gymnema sylvestre and other herbs help shuttle carbs into glycogen stores much quicker = lower insulin response meaning ketosis isnt skewed out of control.

there was a dude over at md forums and knew everything and anything to know about insulin and how it works and other supplements.he said he went on a keto diet for 3 months and then had a refeed day consisting of over 500g carbs in the day,but because he used supplements and herbs to help shuttle the glucose away he was still in ketosis.its crazy shit.

[ElJefe]

Ok, have done a lot of reading.

Most places people say it's the nitrogen by-product form amino-acis being used for energy, and it gets excreted because of kidneys unable to process the large amount of nitrogen.

Then others say it's ketosis.

Either way, today my acid levels are up for sure.

Will stick with this program another three weeks, give my final opinion June 10.

[WesternCancer]

I would say its the ammonia from the amino acids making you smell like that. They probably also say its ketosis because you're using mainly fat, but also amino acids as an energy source. You're probably also eating way more protein than you would on a non-keto diet so you have an abundance in your bloodstream.

[alecks]

its ketosis,ive been there before.the smell is actually acetone.your urine,breath and sweat will stink of acetone (a type of alcohol) whilst in ketosis,its horrible but thats what happens when ketone bodies are being used to burn fat

[ElJefe]

only my sweat so far, maybe also the urine, but i'll need to get a good wiff of that later. Haven't noticed breath yet...

But that's interesting. I wonder if everyone is confusing ammonia with acetone, or some people smell ammonia, and others acetone.

Then I guess group a is enjoying the side-effects of protein metabolism (nitrogen), and the other group is in ketosis.

If I am in ketosis, then with a tough exercise regimen, it took about 2 days before my sweat started to smell. Will pay attention to this next week. Right now I'm looking seriously forward to my carb-rampage tomorrow.

[alecks]

i really dont see the point of going full keto.carbs are more protein sparing than fat.i do lowish carbs during the week when dieting (have enough on workout days,around 120-150g carbs then lower on off days. and then "skipload/shitload" on sunday (all high gi carbs) to increase the metabolism,increase leptin and top up nearly empty glycogen stores

[hypesession]

5'8" 165lbs.

Deadlift: 245
Squat: 245
Bench: 225

Total: 715


Been going to the gym the past couple weeks. Gained ten pounds in that time took it up to 170. just wanted to tell somebody

[Roark]

I don't max anymore, but max rep calcs tell me my bench is 304, squat 450, deadlift is 515 with straps. Had a shoulder injury not too long ago so my bench is not at PR levels. Haven't worked on deadlift for a bit (I usually focus a few months on squat, a few on DL, alternating).

Over the years my lifting goals have moved from "keep trying to hit PR's constantly" to "be cautious and avoid injury as much as possible." Lifts are not the impressive considering I've been going to the gym for a long while now, but I put lifting on the back burner for a long time to focus on wrestling and Muay Thai. Quit those after getting a lot of repetitive injuries but I think I'd like to get back into BJJ again which seems like the combat sport which is sustainable the longest (although lots of people get knee injuries from leg locks).

[Roark]

(03-12-2012 09:38 AM)Walnuts Wrote:  

Anyway, I wanted to ask; how would you build a big chest with calisthenics? Seems impossible.
It annoys me when these body weight training trolls talk about all you need to train is an empty space. It's ridiculous. How would you do your Chest? How would you do your biceps? Back?

1 armed pushups, handstand pushups, pullups and chinups working up to a 1 armed chin.

[hypesession]

(06-17-2012 10:22 PM)Roark Wrote:  

I don't max anymore, but max rep calcs tell me my bench is 304, squat 450, deadlift is 515 with straps. Had a shoulder injury not too long ago so my bench is not at PR levels. Haven't worked on deadlift for a bit (I usually focus a few months on squat, a few on DL, alternating).

Over the years my lifting goals have moved from "keep trying to hit PR's constantly" to "be cautious and avoid injury as much as possible." Lifts are not the impressive considering I've been going to the gym for a long while now, but I put lifting on the back burner for a long time to focus on wrestling and Muay Thai. Quit those after getting a lot of repetitive injuries but I think I'd like to get back into BJJ again which seems like the combat sport which is sustainable the longest (although lots of people get knee injuries from leg locks).

those are nice numbers, what's your height/weight?

[Roark]

Bout 185cm and about 93kg today maybe.

[velkrum]

hypesession Wrote:

Roark Wrote:

I don't max anymore, but max rep calcs tell me my bench is 304, squat 450, deadlift is 515 with straps.

those are nice numbers, what's your height/weight?

those are imaginary numbers. He didn't actually lift them.

just sayin..

[STLmatic]

Just weighed myself, I need to quit drinking.

6'2 280
Squat: 525
Bench: 375
Deadlift: 455

[reaper23]

(06-19-2012 09:36 AM)STLmatic Wrote:  

Just weighed myself, I need to quit drinking.

6'2 280
Squat: 525
Bench: 375
Deadlift: 455

truly remarkable. that puts you in the top 1% of all elite lifters world wide.

[Roark]

(06-19-2012 05:52 AM)velkrum Wrote:  

those are imaginary numbers. He didn't actually lift them.

just sayin..

That's right, they're from the one rep max calculator. I used the calculations from either heavy triples or sets of 5.

As I said, I don't max anymore. All I care about is the longevity of my training (ie being able to train continuously injury free). There is no reason to max unless you absolutely need to for calculating percentages, or you compete as a power lifter.

STLmatic, nice squat. Suited or raw?