[Deluge]

I LOL'd.

[scotian]

I was banging this chick who had that book in her apartment, its not surprising that many would read it, its prominently displayed at many book stores throughout Canada.

Hopefully more NA women clue into how frustrated most men are with their feminist-inspired ways and Sex and the city lifestyles, I doubt it though, especially in the bigger Canadian cities, I think its past the point of no return!

I occasionally post comments or links on my facebook about misandry and how fucked up NA women are but it just turns into one big fight on my wall, not cool!

[haywire]

You should have opened her by asking female opinion on something and then run cube on her

[Deluge]

(01-03-2012 07:36 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I was banging this chick who had that book in her apartment, its not surprising that many would read it, its prominently displayed at many book stores throughout Canada.

Hopefully more NA women clue into how frustrated most men are with their feminist-inspired ways and Sex and the city lifestyles, I doubt it though, especially in the bigger Canadian cities, I think its past the point of no return!

I occasionally post comments or links on my facebook about misandry and how fucked up NA women are but it just turns into one big fight on my wall, not cool!

Dude, I try and talk about this stuff with guys I know IRL in the "community" and they get pissed off. Unless they're a fan of Roosh, the Chateau, A Voice for Men etc bringing it up just is pretty pointless.

[Basil Ransom]

(01-03-2012 07:36 AM)scotian Wrote:  

Hopefully more NA women clue into how frustrated most men are with their feminist-inspired ways and Sex and the city lifestyles, I doubt it though, especially in the bigger Canadian cities, I think its past the point of no return!

I think North American women are more likely to just use it to ferret out the 'gamers,' and play the dating game even harder with the men in their lives.

The game has tactics and self-improvement in equal measure, and each are important. NA women often think "I don't need to change for *any* man." So all that self-improvement central to game immediately goes out the window. Already, due to feminism, you have women thinking that anything that attracts women must work the other way too. She says to herself, "this is what *I* want in a man, so it makes sense that *I* should have it too." And now she starts using negs and masculine body language to raise her value... It's not pretty.

[ManAbout]

Doesn't exactly looked "Middle Aged". Maybe late 20s or 30s, unless that is considered middle age now.

[Screwston]

I still need to check out that book.

[Timoteo]

"I occasionally post comments or links on my facebook about misandry and how fucked up NA women are but it just turns into one big fight on my wall, not cool!"

Actually, it IS cool! It's one of the things I love about Facebook - it's great to post something and read the predictable responses from chicks. I love to see dudes outing themselves as white knights, taking their side against another dude to try to score points.

[Goldin Boy]

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Dude, I try and talk about this stuff with guys I know IRL in the "community" and they get pissed off. Unless they're a fan of Roosh, the Chateau, A Voice for Men etc bringing it up just is pretty pointless.
[/quote]

Ditto, they laugh at me and call me a loser. I guess when you're so invested in the Matrix, it's hard to have someone come up and tell you: "The game is rigged. You've been lied to by everyone about everything and been set-up to lose." Women can't learn game, the hamster can't read logic.

[Enfant_Terrible]

(01-03-2012 11:37 AM)houston Wrote:  

I still need to check out that book.

You can torrent the ebook or pdf version

[Deluge]

(01-03-2012 11:37 AM)houston Wrote:  

I still need to check out that book.

You're the first person in "the community" I know who hasn't...

[Kickb]

(01-04-2012 04:18 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:37 AM)houston Wrote:  

I still need to check out that book.

You're the first person in "the community" I know who hasn't...

I'm the second guy you know in the community who hasn't.

[Iceinthewater]

I don't feel like "the game" would really give women insight into what the common dude is going through and thinking about. I couldn't relate to any of it other than Neil having approach anxiety. That's why I like the guys in this forum and Roosh - this is a place for real dudes, most of whom are actually fucking. And we're not afraid to call women out on their bullshit. In other forums, if you place blame on women, you look like you're making excuses rather than just pointing out reality.

Anybody ever read "The Rules"? It's pretty fucked up - it's like a "game manual" for women who want to suck guys into marriage.

[Timoteo]

(01-04-2012 04:29 AM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

I don't feel like "the game" would really give women insight into what the common dude is going through and thinking about. I couldn't relate to any of it other than Neil having approach anxiety. That's why I like the guys in this forum and Roosh - this is a place for real dudes, most of whom are actually fucking. And we're not afraid to call women out on their bullshit. In other forums, if you place blame on women, you look like you're making excuses rather than just pointing out reality.

Anybody ever read "The Rules"? It's pretty fucked up - it's like a "game manual" for women who want to suck guys into marriage.

I've never read it, but when it first came out of course the author was doing the rounds of morning TV, and of course it's been quoted/exerpted ad nauseum. One of "The Rules" is to play hard to get. Don't act like you're available. Ignore his first couple of calls/messages. If bitches knew a little about game, they'd realize he's got other bitches in rotation, and if she acted "unavailable" he'd just fuck another chick that night!

[Basil Ransom]

(01-04-2012 04:29 AM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

I don't feel like "the game" would really give women insight into what the common dude is going through and thinking about. I couldn't relate to any of it other than Neil having approach anxiety. That's why I like the guys in this forum and Roosh - this is a place for real dudes, most of whom are actually fucking. And we're not afraid to call women out on their bullshit. In other forums, if you place blame on women, you look like you're making excuses rather than just pointing out reality.

Women Girls don't even want that. They don't give a shit about what guys are going through. I'll occasionally mention in passing my difficulties with girls, to a girl. A few are sympathetic. But many just see me, in that moment, as a bitter loser for experiencing any difficulty, eg girls flaking on you, which happens to the best of us. If you don't have sweet pussy basically any time you want it, there must be something wrong with you.

It's because most girls are incredibly solipsistic; they have no awareness of a reality beyond themselves, that anyone's situation could be different. And their reality is, every time they step out the door, willing dick is just an arm's length away. Women are probably better at offering empathy in general, but when it comes to men and mating, most have none.

Girls only read this stuff to try and play the game harder. Women might be different, but they are of considerably less interest to us...

[Samseau]

Quote:

I'll occasionally mention in passing my difficulties with girls, to a girl. A few are sympathetic. But many just see me, in that moment, as a bitter loser for experiencing any difficulty, eg girls flaking on you, which happens to the best of us.

Try asking girls about their dating life. Most girls are bitter as hell towards men, and think us men have it so easy compared to them.

[Tuthmosis]

I've met several girls who have, or claim to have, read the The Game. I've found that they're equally--if not more--easy to game.

[Iceinthewater]

(01-04-2012 11:12 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I've met several girls who have, or claim to have, read the The Game. I've found that they're equally--if not more--easy to game.

Women actually WANT guys to know what they are doing, which is essentially what game is. When the topic of dating comes up in convo, women will say that they wish other guys knew what I know. Some ex-gfs/female friends even try to get their guy friends to talk to me but they never do.

Women want a man they feel good about submitting to, even if they are aware of the process the whole time. True game doesn't have to be a secret because passion and integrity stands for itself.

Almost none of the dudes in The Game seem to get this - the only dude that does is Juggler (Wayne Elise). Can't remember if he goes by a different name in the book...

I actually met him for coffee when we both lived in Michigan. He was a smooth guy but totally normal. I learned a ton from him early on. His book "How to Meet and Connect With Women" is a forgotten classic.

Unfortunately he faded out because he wasn't flashy, but his game was the tightest BECAUSE of that. He was like 40 when I met him and was dating a smoking hot 19 year old brunette at U of M. If anyone can find that book online I highly recommend it - I printed it out and read it like 10 times.

[Soma]

(01-03-2012 08:23 AM)haywire Wrote:  

You should have opened her by asking female opinion on something and then run cube on her

"Excuse me, who lies more, men or women?"

[haywire]

(01-05-2012 01:35 AM)Soma Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 08:23 AM)haywire Wrote:  

You should have opened her by asking female opinion on something and then run cube on her

"Excuse me, who lies more, men or women?"

Or perhaps in this case "Excuse me, who spends more, sugar daddies or cougars?"

[mofo]

I saw the book on my stripper fbuddy's shelf. I asked her about it and she said she enjoyed reading it.

I read it like 5 years ago in a few days, I loved the book. Neil is a great writer.

[mofo]

(01-04-2012 04:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:

I'll occasionally mention in passing my difficulties with girls, to a girl. A few are sympathetic. But many just see me, in that moment, as a bitter loser for experiencing any difficulty, eg girls flaking on you, which happens to the best of us.

Try asking girls about their dating life. Most girls are bitter as hell towards men, and think us men have it so easy compared to them.

I used to think that women are in better position than men when it comes to dating but nowadays I think that - if you're an AFC guy than you are in a lot worse position than any woman however if you are a cool player than you are in better position than almost any woman.

[Alpha]

(01-04-2012 04:28 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 04:18 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 11:37 AM)houston Wrote:  

I still need to check out that book.

You're the first person in "the community" I know who hasn't...

I'm the second guy you know in the community who hasn't.

And I'm the third.

[xmlenigma]

(01-05-2012 01:12 AM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 11:12 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I've met several girls who have, or claim to have, read the The Game. I've found that they're equally--if not more--easy to game.

Women actually WANT guys to know what they are doing, which is essentially what game is. When the topic of dating comes up in convo, women will say that they wish other guys knew what I know. Some ex-gfs/female friends even try to get their guy friends to talk to me but they never do.

Women want a man they feel good about submitting to, even if they are aware of the process the whole time. True game doesn't have to be a secret because passion and integrity stands for itself.

Almost none of the dudes in The Game seem to get this - the only dude that does is Juggler (Wayne Elise). Can't remember if he goes by a different name in the book...

I actually met him for coffee when we both lived in Michigan. He was a smooth guy but totally normal. I learned a ton from him early on. His book "How to Meet and Connect With Women" is a forgotten classic.

Unfortunately he faded out because he wasn't flashy, but his game was the tightest BECAUSE of that. He was like 40 when I met him and was dating a smoking hot 19 year old brunette at U of M. If anyone can find that book online I highly recommend it - I printed it out and read it like 10 times.

+1 - Great book. Its what made me realize my OWN NATURAL GAME.
Fun guy. ..He runs what is called Charisma Arts.