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How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
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How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?

Quote: (11-16-2018 01:59 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 06:39 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  

A lot of people will be quick to shit on posters like the OP, but I think that posts like his reveal really fascinating aspects of social dynamics and psychology. I definitely look at white women a little differently now. I had a phase where all I wanted (as a minority) was white girls, but my experiences hooking up with them in college were so underwhelming that I started to question my preferences. It made me realize how much the average guy inflates their looks, and IMO, porn is the biggest culprit of this.
With that being said there are some gorgeous white girls out there, and I may think differently if I ever got with one. The hottest white girl I ever pulled was a 7 and a little more "alternative". I honestly never had luck with the sorority types beyond makeouts. I focused my efforts on ethnic girls who I knew would give me a better return on my time.
Quote: (11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.
Could you elaborate on this?

So, I ran a photography business back in the day (10 years ago). My game was mediocre, but I was in fantastic shape. I scored quite a few good looking white girls... which I did not really consider a big deal since I'm white myself. Just laying this background so you understand where I'm coming from.

Over time I feel like most of the American white girls that I've been with had some form of sexual hangups. Virtually all of them. This can make them freakier, but also much more difficult. Additionally, they seem to carry this idea that their life is a movie and they are the starlet. That gets fucking annoying fast.

When I say white people have a much more fucked up outlook on race... it's because our general view is one of superiority combined with guilt. You can feel superior or inferior... and thats' pretty normal. We all feel good or bad about something. The combination of guilt and shame on top of that... makes white people fucking insane on this topic. My sister is a prime example. She exclusively dates black men. Although when I say "dates" I use that term loosely. She generally uses black men as living dildos. We talked about it one time and I think she is nearly at a 200 body count. I also suspect that she does a lot of raceplay during her sessions.

It took me a while growing up... but having met black and asian people adopted and raised by white parents... I came to the conclusion that race doesn't really exist as we think of it. There are some minor mostly cosmetic differences, but the greatest variations are cultural. This is my opinion.

Quote: (11-15-2018 04:51 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

I must admit this to be an interesting post to analyze & dissect... so I'll chime in with my thoughts & beliefs. Now as a Black Man, I believe I’m unbiased when it comes to Game & Race analysis… but biased might slip in here & there.
Your Bang on with the idea of sexual prowess... but with all due respect, I believe the reasons to be related, but completely different. You see Black People... along with Indigenous Peeps... are the least valued races on an intellectual stand point... mainly due to average IQ's being lower. Fair enough. So as Black Men, we learn at a very young age that our mental abilities are not that much valued unfortunately... so the race to be the most charming & socially powerful on the block is full throttle for most black children at a young age. Now that I'm older, I essentially recognize that we become socialized with Game 101 tenets... and that's pretty much it.
Now when it's time to Game & Date, quite frankly we have a Huge Head Start compared to other races for the most part. Now I'm not saying we're the Best... but the kids who've been focused on getting good Grades won't be as charming as Tyronne & Pookie who've been collecting lunch money & had their High School homework’s done by several Becky’s (True Story Not Mine). Now nearly every White guy will fare better than Blacks in dating with any races outside of Black Women (simply due to White Guys not being down with Black Women strictly... so a "Win" by DQ Hehe!)
Now for the White Women who want to "Have some fun"... AND the 10%-15% of the lot who don't mind having it with a Black D... best believe a minimum of 2 Tyronne & 1 Pedro will go Deep in that A$$ & make that Booty Clap! The socialy good looking White Guy will still be at the top of the mountain… buy Tyronne & Pookie will unquestionably take some Pu$$y away from the Engineer who most likely wasn’t conditioned to be as charming as possible to be valued in society.
That "Being an uncontrollable beast" is simply pure Attraction we’ve been conditioned to have at a very young age! When being smart is not valued by most Black Women like that… trust me you learn how to get down with the program @ a Young Age! Now I’m far from being elite... and actually studied Game due to being a late bloomer… and even I get this “look” once in a while without trying! It just is! However If a magic wand existed, I would gladly switch thing up in order for us to be socialized to be as intellectually gifted as possible... even if we’d remain at the bottom of the ladder. That's not happening anytime soon though. Like every successful Playa knows... Pu$$y ain't even that valuable... and that's the Field we're really good at! Sad!

I really think this is a spot on analysis. I just want to add a few points. The first one being that I'm 100% certain that the US black IQ is entirely cultural and has no genetic component.

The second point is regarding how race and dating are currently intersecting in the US. I'd say you are 100% correct that nerdy white betas are losing a lot of opportunity to black guys. However, this is generally being compensated for by an increase in the number of asian girls who actually like nerdy betas.

The two groups of people who get shit on the heaviest in the US dating market are asian men and black women. I feel that black women as a group would do much better if they collectively dropped their obesity rate.

I've had this question for a long time. How much of female attraction depends entirely on stereotypes? I believe more and more that women are so completely susceptible to marketing and social pressure that at least at the screening level their attractions are heavily influenced by stereotyping. That applies to jobs, race, height... absolutely everything.

As a black man with a ton of single black female friends this is by and large the most difficult topic for them to discuss. American Black women have a weight problem and it doesn't become any more evident than randomly swiping on tinder in a large metropolitan area(a rural area would almost be too easy). You literally can count the number of avg sized to slender black women on two hands if you swipe for 5 minutes. There struggle is similar to a lot of guys first getting into pickup, they can't acknowledge that they have some physical housekeeping to take care of before they start seeing improvements in their dating life. The sooner you can acknowledge and take care of those small physical handicaps like weight and grooming the quicker you'll be on a road to success
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