My point was that we find excuses for the (admittedly minor) plot hole in the originals because they're great movies; even if it was a big plot hole we'd still ignore it because the movie was so good. The reason this (fairly large) plot hole stands out to us is because the rest of the movie was crap, with unlikable characters, and constant violations of logic; this was just the most prominent.
It wasn't that this movie violated in-universe logic (though it did); it's that it violated narrative logic.
Every movie has plot holes - some big, some small - but if it has engaging characters, a meaningful theme, and it's well presented, we ignore them. But when you screw up basic character arcs, we have trouble explaining why exactly. Narrative is a hard thing to understand intellectually, because we understand it so innately. Like calculus: our hands can catch a ball, but it took us thousands of years to figure out the math behind it. All we know is that we didn't like the movie, and wind up focusing on the plot holes, when the deeper issue is narrative.
It's not the suicide doors that ruined the RX-8 - or any other particular feature - it was the overall try-to-hard design philosophy.
It wasn't that this movie violated in-universe logic (though it did); it's that it violated narrative logic.
Every movie has plot holes - some big, some small - but if it has engaging characters, a meaningful theme, and it's well presented, we ignore them. But when you screw up basic character arcs, we have trouble explaining why exactly. Narrative is a hard thing to understand intellectually, because we understand it so innately. Like calculus: our hands can catch a ball, but it took us thousands of years to figure out the math behind it. All we know is that we didn't like the movie, and wind up focusing on the plot holes, when the deeper issue is narrative.
It's not the suicide doors that ruined the RX-8 - or any other particular feature - it was the overall try-to-hard design philosophy.