Quote: (08-24-2015 08:47 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2015 07:54 PM)Killer Joe Wrote:
Did understand wrong, or did they actually set fire to the awards ceremony? How many dead/injured?
Right wingers aka the puppies used the process of the Hugos to keep out women, minorities, and other undesirables. Tired that too many guys like Scalzi or the chick that won last year were getting all the attention. They cloak it bullshit like "hard science", but it's obvious that they feel like they're losing "science fiction".
Left wingers responded to the jury rigging of the system with the No Awards.
Meanwhile, a translation by a Chinese American of a Chinese (mainland) Science Fiction novel took the top spot.
Same bunch of neckbeards have no problem believing in Faster than Light Travel, green humanoid aliens having sex with Captain Kirk and Elves, Orc and Dragons, but will flip their shit if Captain America, James Bond, or the Human Torch is black.
And most of these dudes are "smart" and have technical backgrounds. So they'll assiduously back up all of their claims with "science", and calls to authority, history, and tradition. Same "engineering logic" is all over the web. Shows up in technolibertarianism, people talking about gold as a reserve currency, and bunch of other shit that "would be great if only people listened man, and were logical dude"
Fighting for the Soul of the Genre, when back in the 80's nobody gave a fuck.
It's because of Silicon Valley, and the rise of nerd money, thus nerd power, that you see these things. Hashtag activism for the people who wrote the code for Twitter.
Same bunch of dudes who all throughout college complained that there were no chicks coming to the anime night @ Chemistry building, are mad as fuck that cosplay bitches run Comic Cons now. And have no problem being skeevy with the few bitches at work .
WIA
The Sad Puppies claim that SJWs were systematically excluding straight white men (and even straight viewpoints) in favor of science fiction about gay/transgender issues that people generally weren't reading or buying in real life. They were throwing out the superior sales of excluded authors as evidence (don't know enough about the modern genre to judge their veracity).
I don't have a hard time whatsoever believing this happened to some degree or another (especially based on the nerdy white demographic they're generally selling to). However, at least one of the Sad Puppies/Rabid Puppies seems a little wacky/White Powerish at a glance but hell, violence begets violence, hate begets hate, bigotry begets bigotry etc.. When you engage in identity politics, you're going to draw opposition from people doing the same on the other side.
The angry straight white guys selling traditional sci fi to the traditional sci fi nerds that actually buy these books got CREAMED by the SJWs at the Hugos, with coordinated applause every time a "No Award" was awarded. Their entire recomended list got blanked, and a bisexual author that got a recomendation from them (for writing good sci fi) withdrew her nomination to avoid the poison.
This was a straight up ass kicking by the SJWs by the way, they really couldn't have played it better if they wrote it. And the Rabid Puppies even acted like schlocky sci fi villains.