[TravelerKai]

(05-29-2016 01:47 AM)Global Entry Wrote:  

I still see a lot of guys in Shenzhen dating down 1-3 points. I'm not just talking looks, though that certainly figures fairly heavily in the equation as income inequality is pretty standard for those who aren't English teachers, at least. My rating for the LTR would consider looks, wealth, age, family background, and even temperament. And I see guys dating down still, much more than on their level or up (error margin +-1 is just differences in opinion).

I have a friend, another attorney, made more than 200K USD in 2015 while living in Shenzhen. Lives in a baller apartment. Its shared, but its still baller, and he has only one roommate in 4 BR place. He's tall, in good shape for his age, works out almost daily, late 40s. He's regularly dated girls in their early to late twenties, sometimes older.

He's dating a single mother (she was married when she had the kid, to a foreign guy, but since is divorcing). She's from a Henan village. She's decent looking but no superstar. She speaks pretty good english but didn't go to college. In her late twenties, working as a management trainee at a high end hotel's restaurant.

She's been staying with him, with her kid, and the mother.

We're about to have a serious talk tonight.

That's painful to read. It's one thing when I know guys that marry Chinese moms that are 5 and below, but they work at a Sprint store in Los Angeles, and it is another thing when educated men that make more than 6 figures do shit like this.

One thing we do not discuss much here if not ever, is how crafty or strategic Chinese women are in a marriage sense. If that dude goes through with that marriage, I would bet serious money she would try to get him out of there as soon as she could. I guarantee you she wants him out of there so that she can get that kid prepped for having an American education. Another major reason she would want him out of SZ, is because Chinese women know when they have hacked the system and know how to cockblock or play for keeps. She would be foolish if she let him stay there too long. Eventually he will see what a mistake he made and get an ernai or a xiaosan, then she would be fucked.

Filipinas are well known for strategic relocation techniques as well. I don't know about all other Asians, but it is an issue you have to deal with when you are similar to your lawyer buddy. Only the mugs are stupid enough to bring that shit up while talking online or during the dating phase. Those are the obvious green card hunters/anchor babies. Others are much more patient than that. They are playing chess and dude is still playing checkers. These women know living in Asia can be rough for foreigners. They been there their whole lives, so it's okay for them. They just need you to give up once. Almost certainly single mothers make up the vast majority of these women. Single ones make a small percentage. The reason is crystal clear. You will never be number one to her. Her kid was first to come into her life and her number 1 priority, never you. The thought of being number 2 in any woman's heart bothers me to death. Why even blue pill men cannot see this shit personally bothers me deeply.

Even she thinks he is too soft or weak to cheat or leave her, that is a bad move on her part. Wimpy Chinese men that get money almost always turn into standard dudes with enough time. A lot of it is just the environment. Hoes come out of the woodwork like crazy when you do not expect them. Being married or seen with Chinese women can get you chased or opened on. These women know this even if you do not. This is why it is very hard to marry or LTR 5s and 6s, when you are tallish (~ 5'7"-5'10"), look ~6-7 for a man, and have good education/job/careers. Alot of good women that flake on just mere dates, that are average as fuck looking, don't want your dick to scramble their brains hardcore because they know you are completely out of their league. Banging poor good girls like this is even harder than this too.

Bad/jaded girls don't give a shit. Eventually he will run into one that will promise to turn him out. All it will take is for his gal to cut off the pussy while pregnant or any of the other bad behaviors that can drive him crazy. If she hits the wall early, the 9 dollar cotton skirts on 18 year olds he will see everyday on the street will torture him too. Unless she is smart enough to bronco bust his ass and swallow on demand, she is gambling hardcore herself. The odds are just not in your buddy's favor though because he is not winning and is playing from behind. Right now in his life, it is the 3rd quarter, he has 1 time out left, and the score is 3-24. Doesn't look good....

Another thing we don't discuss here in regards to Asian women is female managers. Chinese are not the only ones, I know from experience and close friends. I dated or fooled with 2 managers in China, might have been another but I forget what her job was exactly. Anyway, one was a divorced Alpha widow whose husband dumped her for a 20 year old. They had no kids together. Super sweet gal but obsessed with my looks. She actually approached me. I think she just like bald black men. I'm still not sure to this day, but I could tell she likes men alot despite her bad past. She wanted to stop dating me after a week because she was too scared I would run off on her long story short and I thought it was a good idea because I had that 9 I talked about before, a steady 6, and I eventually met my now wife and we were just talking.

I'm not making this shit up. She had a new white guy boyfriend in 2 days. Sent me a picture of them doing yoga. Dude was fat, bald, and dumpy. I kept talking to her because fuck it, I was learning alot from her game wise. Basically she ended up marrying him because she was marrying down and could control him. This chick was a senior manager of a tobacco company in China. She probably made the same or more than I made. I've talked about her before I think, but not to this extent.

Peep the game fellas. She never said she left her husband because he cheated. She said he divorced her for a 20 year old (xiaosan). She never said she never fucked around or didn't mind him fucking around. Just because she might minds me cheating her, doesn't mean that she minded him cheating. He was a rich dude and she had strong money too. Bald and fat white dude English teacher and I may not get a pass like that with her.

Manager girl number two was definitely super into black men and RnB singers. I've talked about her before plenty of times but in this context, she was absolutely a slut. She was with me and had a Russian boyfriend she was supposed to be living with. This chick is singing for me K-Ci and JoJo Tell Me it's Real, but will fuck me, this Russian live-in boyfriend, and God knows who else. She begged me not to break up with her because she would dump him for me, but she never told me about him before. Oh yeah by the way, this one approached me first too. Chick was a mid level manager of a large cement company. Peep the game fellas. Who lets a 28 year old woman be a manager of stuff like this and it's not a family run company?

I've told this story to some of you privately before too. I had roses delivered to my now wife's job for more than just one reason.

1. She had a coworker that was trying to holler at her and she disliked him so much she told me about him.
2. She was being considered for management by her boss and he was planning to have her meet the owner and executives of the company. They were going to take her out for drinks and more guanxi meetings.

After I sent those roses, all that bullshit stopped. In fact the beta orbiter got really upset and told my wife, out loud in front of others, that he lost alot of face in the office. I bet you she still did not catch what happened 100% to this extent to this day. I peeped that game and made a checkmate like move. Her whole office knew a laowai sent those roses. Chinese men don't do stuff like that. I made her basically radioactive. It was very risky at the time, but I was willing to take the risk. If we did not work out, I would have been responsible for fucking up her career, but I had a good feeling about this girl. Turned out to be right, but if you guys are not serious like that, deliver roses to her house instead.

I bring these three stories up to say this. Women that are managers in China are pretty likely to have fucked their way up there. These kind of women, if willing to do stuff like this, is not wife material at all.

China is a Man's World. Some women can join in, but they gotta pay up somehow. Either schmooze the clients or the bosses. I have not seen an ugly woman in management in China. Even the old ones I have seen have tons of young hotter ones at the front desk and in sales underneath them. Men are not the only pimps in Asia.

The bad part of wanting an educated woman is that if you get one too educated and she builds a career out of it up to management, you are going to be getting a slightly to heavily jaded version of whatever Asian girl is available to you. It's a rough balance because you don't want a dumbass either. Is it possible either one of those women would have made a good wife? What about a great wife? It's possible, but red flags exist for a reason. You should not have to whip out Jariel's post on Red Flags or Loser Females for every chick you date or meet. The red flag itself to warn you about the unknowns you cannot calculate in the future, to help you make efficient decisions.