Quote: (10-20-2014 12:11 PM)nomadicdude Wrote:
[Vietnamese] girls generally are very sweet. They have not been corrupted by the west or by money like Chinese girls.
Let me dispel some things, and I say this after over a year in Saigon, with multiple trips to Hanoi and Danang: Vietnamese women are
extremely money-oriented and are increasingly adopting 'Western' attitudes towards dating.
1)
What's your job?: When you first interact with
any Vietnamese girl, whether by chatting her up on Vietnam Cupid, approaching her at Skybar on Saturday night, or saying hello to her at the petrol station, she will invariably try to gauge your present net worth. In an online scenario, she will do this by asking almost immediately what you do for a living, though this will sometimes be cloaked in the form of "what are you doing in Vietnam?" In #2, she will form a judgment based on your presentation. If you look good, she will simply delay in asking the question. In scenario #3, she will make assumptions based on your motorbike - it's the way she has been doing it all her life. By this question she wants to know if you will provide for her. If you stay long enough, you will have at least one girl directly ask you your monthly salary.
When gaming in high-end venues, presume guilt rather than innocence. A girl may flat out lie about her own or her father's occupation in an attempt to appear self-sufficient. Some of these girls are no different from the favela cariocas who get made up once a week to woo a backpacker in Copacabana. Yes, they will appear very sweet.
Even if the girl is otherwise legit, know that most Vietnamese models and actresses, no matter how famous, are seeing a local business tycoon on the side. Compared to their counterparts in Thailand and Indo, they are not well-paid and could not otherwise continue living the lifestyle they need to appear in local tabloids, an unspoken requirement for future contracts. Status/social standing trumps artistic merit; Google "Vietnamese dj's" to get an idea of my point.
In practice, many of the girls you will find at the high-class expat-oriented venues (Xu, Blanchys) will have their financial needs already met, so they're just out to have fun. That's OK!! ....unless:
You want to wife up a high-end local, in which case she needs to be able to turn to her friends and say "look, I'm with this foreign "businessman/entrepreneur/lawyer/banker"; the moment you say you dedicate your life to a calling that does not invoke an immediate association with cash is the moment that you lost her.
In connection with this topic it is also worth noting that hot, high-end girls strongly prefer 35+ men. Men of this demographic, in their eyes, are less likely to fool around and, *gasp*, tend to have money in the bank. In no other country have I been more frequently rejected upon revealing my age.
Money is of vital importance in Vietnam.
2) Brief observations on the
Westernization of Vietnamese women:
-As in the West, online dating/messaging apps are making it extremely easy for girls to date many guys at once, and there is no barrier, cultural or otherwise to doing so. Contrary to what you may think, you smashing her on Monday night will not make her cancel her dates with Flavio on Tuesday and Francois on Wednesday. Vietnam Cupid, OKC, Tinder, and WeChat were all great for securing consistent poon in Saigon.
-I've been hearing the term 'sex partner' get tossed around more frequently than I would expect in a conservative society. It is not uncommon for girls to openly brag about having a present or past fuck buddy, even immediately post-lay. One note on this front: Vietnamese women find great pride in sleeping with a 'strong' man. Strength in this context means stamina. Being called a 'weak' man (i.e. having little stamina) is a capital insult.
-The better her English, the less likely she is to cook for you and clean your house. Correlation, not causation.
-Though Vietnamese women are indeed very fit and take great care of their bodies, the first McDonald's in Vietnam opened its doors just several months ago
---
Please take this as an extremely narrow account of Vietnamese women, and one specifically directed at the cited quote.
By and large, Vietnamese women are indeed very sweet and make great partners, but certainly not because they are unconcerned with money or are dissimilar to their Western counterparts, or at least the ones you are likely to meet in HCMC/Hanoi.
Now is as good of a time as ever to base up in Vietnam. Location independent entrepreneurs increasingly bored of/restless with BKK and Chiangmai are arriving in hordes. I recommend checking Saigon and Danang. Avoid Hanoi.