Quote: (12-18-2014 12:59 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

Quote: (12-18-2014 12:47 AM)floor7 Wrote:  

At state schools you get a LOT more variation. The Roissy article nails it regarding obesity and cognitive divergence and I see this trend getting worse. I went to a state school for undergrad and an elite private for grad school and the elite private on the low end had almost no land whales. My state school had them by the truckloads.

It's all about demographics. There is a positive correlation between facial attractiveness and IQ. The better off a girl grew up the less chance she'll be fat and/or ugly, and rich girls do very well academically because she inherited her parents smarts that made them rich, plus better schools, tutoring etc. But when you get to the very top academically things reverse face wise, hot girls have better things to do then get literally perfect grades, whereas plain looking rich girls don't have all those distractions.

Looks vary a lot but what they study as well. The law school at my university is extremely selective and has more stunners than anywhere else I've ever seen, but you won't find much talent among girls who actually do Engineering or anything heavy in math.

Agreed. High Verbal skills correlates much more with beauty at these schools than high mathematical talent. I reckon none of these girls are taking Math 55 @ Harvard (legendarily difficult Math course for freshman at Harvard).

Quote: (12-18-2014 01:04 AM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  

Random thoughts:

Six of the fifteen are from New York. Three others are from Europe. That leaves six (40%) from the other 49 states of the US, all of them coastal. There is no one from the south or the so-called fly-over states. Is that representative of Harvard generally?

Reading their profiles, there was, of course, a certain amount of youthful naivete and a certain obvious attempt to at once signal progressive credentials and also appear "ordinary". Most of them came off as the kind of complete cunts I wouldn't want to have anything to do with. Also of note, more than one person mentioned Kanye West as a bloody role model. Really? I can't imagine the average Harvard student three generations ago doing the equivalent. This is the degeneracy of the (future) upper class.

Prole drift is real. There are people from all 50 states at Harvard - though there are a lot more coastal kids there, it is a lot easier to get in as a flyover/southern kid.

Of the guys, I think Hunter is the only one that looks significantly manly, followed perhaps by Pietro. However, while Hunter looks like he may in fact have the killer instinct, Pietro looks like he's probably a nice guy, in the bad sense of the term.

Skip looks like he skipped puberty. I'm sure most of these guys are pure SJW, blue pill, white knight, manginas, or they wouldn't have made it past Harvard's admissions process.

So, my question is, who rated these guys as the hottest in their class? Do the women of Harvard actually consider these guys sexually hot, or were they chosen by gays? Option 3: the rest of the Harvard freshmen guys are even worse!

The Indian girl:
http://features.thecrimson.com/2014/fift...st/swetha/

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Describe yourself in three words: Wannabe Princess Jasmine.

Well, at least she's honest about having a princess complex.

WB all of them except Gussie and Emily. Emily looks too robust. Hate Gussie's hair but not sure she would look better without it either.

Would approach only Adrianne, Celina and Sweta.

Would put effort beyond a mere approach only for Sweta because of novelty factor.

Wouldn't turn neither of them into a girlfriend. They are all nothing special and look very regular except for Sweta who is kind of good looking for an Indian. But she is an Indian.

I'd bang all the chicks except Gussie and Swetha.

Except for Mary and possibly Adrienne, none of these chicks rate above a 7.

If this is the best Harvard can do I am distinctly unimpressed.

HSLD

Adrienne. WB. 7 She has a somewhat broad masculine jawline and will age poorly though.

Celina. WB 6

Clare. WB 6

Emily. WNB 5

Gussie. WNB 5

Lucy. WB 6. Nothing special looks wise. Bet she has a shit personality too. Every asian girl i've met with ivy league background is high maintenance and egotistical. They are fairly common around southern CA.

Mary. WB 7 best out of the bunch.

Swetha. WNB 5 Probably extremely shit personality. No.

This is about right for the caliber of girl you find at Ivy League schools. The hottest girls look like these girls when they get all dressed up. They're not that hot but they're bangable

Would bang so they can take this final for me.

This thread annoys me.

Not sure why.

All these girls are plain as hell. It reminds me of Toronto. It's these average median girls in the middle whom are are biggest cunts. I go for hotter women because get are typically more fun and I can at least have a better time then trying to talk up a cringe worthy Plain Janes. Judging from these ratings men on here rate then highly, not see why. They all have little to no sex appeal. They all look like boring girls you date more then women I want to fuck.

Plus a other Toronto analogy is that the men in that profile are all steps ahead of the females. The dudes are more handsome and would likely do well in any setting if they have the social chops to go with the look and good intelligence they posses. In Toronto they would be dating those Plain Janes pictured when they should be doing better. That is likely another reason why this post infuriates me.

Adrienne:

Would bang her chin cleavage

Celina

Would bang till she goes fully boss eyed.

Clare

Would ride like Seabiscuit

Lucy

Would show her my Bruce Lee face


Skip

Would mug.

All those girls look very plain in my book.

Plain or not, WB all of them.

Average or not, the only hype here is the fact that they made some silly website.

As we say in Greek, 'An sou toumposei, pes ochi' - 'If she bends over for you, try and say no'

I gotta modify my scores.

Adrienne, the first one, deserves an additional point. If she were in this Slavic Beauty thread, wearing this



and her name were Svetlana Putin, you guys would be saying she's a 9.

Also, Celina is an 8 and I was low-balling for the sake of this thread. There ain't nothing wrong with that face, and she probably has a nice body. Swetha's probably a 7, at worst, too.

If there is no one above a 6 in this feature, my crowning achievement is no more than a 5, because I sure as hell have not banged a girl of the caliber of Adrienne, who could realistically monetize her looks. I'll eat that girl's ass. Even further, I'll introduce that bitch to my mom.

Mothafuckas on this forum be bangin '7s,' girls of higher wattage than Adrienne/Svetlana on the regular, kudos to you. Teach me your ways. I'm more inclined to call out rampant Big Ballerism, tho.

^ Pretty sure Adrienne is Polish/Russian (her last name is displayed on her profile) and it doesn't change the fact she looks plain as fuck, I would bang them all to get notches and move on

Quote: (12-18-2014 03:11 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

I'm more inclined to call out rampant Big Ballerism, tho.

Many forum members reside abroad. It's not big ballerism to point out these girls are simply not that attractive. Even the top rated girls mentioned would be blown away in a upper middle class orientated SEA nightclub. I imagine in EE amongst girls of a similar race they would still only be considered mid tier at best. There are regular girls i've dated in SEA who are simply better looking than these ivy league slappers. That's not bragging i'm sure there are many other guys who have as well.

Quote: (12-18-2014 03:11 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

I gotta modify my scores.

Adrienne, the first one, deserves an additional point. If she were in this Slavic Beauty thread, wearing this



and her name were Svetlana Putin, you guys would be saying she's a 9.

Also, Celina is an 8 and I was low-balling for the sake of this thread. There ain't nothing wrong with that face, and she probably has a nice body. Swetha's probably a 7, at worst, too.

If there is no one above a 6 in this feature, my crowning achievement is no more than a 5, because I sure as hell have not banged a girl of the caliber of Adrienne, who could realistically monetize her looks. I'll eat that girl's ass. Even further, I'll introduce that bitch to my mom.

Mothafuckas on this forum be bangin '7s,' girls of higher wattage than Adrienne/Svetlana on the regular, kudos to you. Teach me your ways. I'm more inclined to call out rampant Big Ballerism, tho.

Yeah you guys calling out 5s...
Even 6 is harsh for these girls.

Quote: (12-18-2014 03:11 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

Adrienne, the first one, deserves an additional point. If she were in this Slavic Beauty thread, wearing this



and her name were Svetlana Putin, you guys would be saying she's a 9.

There's an obvious difference: 'Svetlana' is trying to look classicaly-feminine, innocent, submissive and sexually-enticing, whilst Adrienne is dressed in a pantsuit like a middle-aged post-divorce realtor and has awkward, uncomfortable body language in her pose.

Why didn't she smile and engage the camera, like Mary? I'm guessing it's because she knows if she does, she turns into Robin Williams.



6.5 seems about right.

If Adrienne is a 8 then Toronto is spoiling me. She is a garden variety as fuck for girls here. If your in a bar on King Street the majority of the bar will be obscenely hotter then any of these women. Mind you they are all raspy cunts but they are way fucking hotter.

But again I feel that the issue is to many men rate these women way higher then they need to be and because of this they get a surge of attention they don't need which inflates there egos.

Maybe its just my tastes but a girl just has to have something striking about her or overtly feminine. Her eyes, hair, smile, breasts, booty.. something. I don't like middle of the road women as they just look boring as fuck.

There might be also a aspect of low key white girl worship. But since because I can only speak for me I will explain: If I walk into a bar and I see nothing hotter then what these groups of girls offer from the OP I am also by default looking at non-white women too. Asian, South Asian, Black, Latin, and whatever else in between. I will always usually find a ethnic girl who is hotter then any of these broads and will try to game her. I get the sense most guys will be ride or die for a snow bunny and go after these marginal women.

All the ethnic girls in that post are substandard and wack. That Asian broad was wack, so is the brown girl, and the black girl could be hotter in a few years but I ain't down with those big gums so she is wack too. I ain't even noticing those girls breathe in a bar and would bounce home if after scanning for all types of women all that was left for me which was in the OP. I would game Ardienne but none of the rest would get me going unless it was easy low hanging fruit.

This has been one of the more enlightening threads in a while as far as perception on beauty for a small sample of other dudes. I still don't know what to make of it. Would I get more bangs if I lowered my standards and game more of these types of women? Maybe.. But then why should I settle. Is it better to strike out with 8s or to take home something lower? I guess its all circumstance and situations and whatever your need and goal is going out that night but for me any night I step out the goal is a bang. It really makes me think.

While normally I'd agree with you guys about these Harvard chicks being nothing to write home about, this is slightly depressing because I went out last night to two popular venues filled with women in my city (Melbourne, Australia), and the Harvard girls all blow them out of the water. At the very least, the Harvard girls are in the right weight classes for women, don't chop their hair off or colour them silly, or have retarded visible tattoos...

Quote: (12-18-2014 05:56 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

While normally I'd agree with you guys about these Harvard chicks being nothing to write home about, this is slightly depressing because I went out last night to two popular venues filled with women in my city (Melbourne, Australia), and the Harvard girls all blow them out of the water. At the very least, the Harvard girls are in the right weight classes for women, don't chop their hair off or colour them silly, or have retarded visible tattoos...

As the OP, I can definitely understand fellow forum members feeling that I am overrating these hamsters but StrikeBack hits on what is making some of us in this thread overrate them.

As each year passes, more and more women in the US (and west) balloon and do other silly shit (tats, silly hair, etc). Nothing kills a boner for me faster than a fatty.

Quote: (12-17-2014 09:23 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Harvard and the Ivy League are notorious for plain girls... At any state school they will be better. It's common knowledge that the better schools for girls are known to be places like ASU and FSU etc... Warmer climate = less clothing and more pressure to stay in shape.

That must be a phenomenon only in the US.

Clare has that "girl-next-door" look I like. Reminds me of a lot of the girls back in the day I would totally go for, catch one-itis, and then either fail to approach or somehow ruin my chances with bad game.

They all look pretty fuckable to me.*shrugs*

I'd happily bang them out, but they wouldn't stand out at UW Madison in the least.