Quote: (12-08-2014 07:58 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

If a guy is smart enough to design something great, but not good with women, maybe we need to stop saying he's the problem. Maybe we need start thinking that if women have become too stupid to recognize greatness, then they deserve to be bought (and thought of) like products, because as "people" they're ruining society.

This is gold. First thing that came to mind is when you're traveling pretty much anywhere in the world and you notice how many skinny, lanky dorks are tapping a 7 girl out there, seemingly effortlessly. And then back in the U.S. you've got good looking, athletic, successful guys fighting for that same 7.

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Quote: (12-08-2014 09:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

That is actually what is happening now - the majority of men in the 'sphere are not becoming Players - they either dabble a bit, become MGTOWs, MRAs, shut-ins, focus on their work, buysexuals etc. It does not affect the sexual market place much.

I would argue it does affect the sexual marketplace. I know scads of women over 30 (and especially 40), who can't find good men -- or any men who will commit. Men's dropping out has an effect.

But see, that's the "laws of nature" at work, not "manosphere teachings".

All these hordes of men dropping out are not due to having read a masterfully written RoK article, but because of being unable to attract any women, let alone (relatively) decent and pleasant ones. These women don't need them because the state is providing for them, and don't want them because it brings them more satisfaction to spend their lives hamsterizing about Alphas who won't commit rather than lower standards and get with a Beta.

If these used 35+ and 45+ women actually showed any interest in these MGTOWs, MRAs, herbivores and the rest of the dropped-out crowd, you can bet that these guys would jump at the chance. Why do I claim this? Well, just remember Mark Minter and his "top that motherfuckers" turnaround.

For every Cardguy who vehemently refuses to even talk to a woman his age, let alone date or marry her, there is a guy who will be overjoyed to take her over the crushing celibacy (which porn and personal fulfillment can only dull so much). Remember the old saying: "There are no atheists in the trenches."

I posit that men leaving the sexual marketplace is not due to being red-pill (be it player or herbivore), but due to having 0% chance with attracting women even their age.

The number of these men will continue growing as long as the female disinterest in them continues growing. At some of this point, this will burden the government in an unsustainable way, causing a collapse.

This collapse will have nothing to do with manosphere teachings. They are just a drop in the pool. The main factor is, as it has always been, female preferences.

"All these hordes of men dropping out are not due to having read a masterfully written RoK article, but because of being unable to attract any women, let alone (relatively) decent and pleasant ones."

They might not have read the ROK articles, but they've observed what we've seen especially amongst the over-30 set: obesity, divorce rape, used-up career women, and the scads of decent-looking men tethered to landwhales through marriage (let's admit this is a trend).

A lot of these men are either going much younger with their preferences or refusing to commit, knowing what might be in store. Women pine over Alphas, but again I'll say Alpha is situational. The 38-year-old "loser" to a woman that age can come off as a pretty established, together guy to a 29-year-old.

The trouble is we take woman at face value too much. You'll hear from women this guy or that guy is a loser. They'll leave out the part where he doesn't call back because he chanced on to a younger one. If women can't be honest about something as critical as rape, don't expect honesty when it comes to the dating meat market.

I don't see this as the women winning; I have too many friends that did well with either younger women, foreign women, or decent women their own age. (These are not particularly good-looking men either, but they're fun and funny. And responsible. If this board was private, I'd give two examples with pics that would blow your minds.)

Anyway, the average, non-manosphere man might not be Red Pill per se, but he still doesn't like fat women or bitchy women. Most know America is producing them like never before and are reacting in their own way.

Haha you all would have been proud of me today.

I am currently finishing off my studies of International Relations. I had a token feminist lecture today thrown into the mix, and had to listen to the whole nonsense logic for one hour. "Its raining because its wet" kind of stuff. Most of the time the course is pretty pragmatic and focuses on solid theories, but this just started to take the biscuit.

I had to call out this loud black girl who was talking about women in the military having to assert themselves to be accepted. "Men have to assert themselves too, you can't expect preferential treatment", "Why hasn't male disposability been mentioned". "Feminism is just carrying on the same sentiments that it claims to be against in the first place".

It was pleasing to hear most of the guys in my class muttering under their breaths "fucking hate these feminists". Even after I had a few attractive girls in the class who I know, initiating conversations with me and being all touchy. It was a small victory, but just goes to show how feminism is one giant political shit test.

Either way I am looking forward to finishing my studies, as I have had enough listening to this fairy tale nonsense, even if it is once every few months.

Quote: (12-08-2014 12:06 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

Haha you all would have been proud of me today.

I am currently finishing off my studies of International Relations. I had a token feminist lecture today thrown into the mix, and had to listen to the whole nonsense logic for one hour. "Its raining because its wet" kind of stuff. Most of the time the course is pretty pragmatic and focuses on solid theories, but this just started to take the biscuit.

I had to call out this loud black girl who was talking about women in the military having to assert themselves to be accepted. "Men have to assert themselves too, you can't expect preferential treatment", "Why hasn't male disposability been mentioned". "Feminism is just carrying on the same sentiments that it claims to be against in the first place".

It was pleasing to hear most of the guys in my class muttering under their breaths "fucking hate these feminists". Even after I had a few attractive girls in the class who I know, initiating conversations with me and being all touchy. It was a small victory, but just goes to show how feminism is one giant political shit test.

Either way I am looking forward to finishing my studies, as I have had enough listening to this fairy tale nonsense, even if it is once every few months.

I took a bunch of IR classes with a pretty awesome former Cold Warrior who had more of a classical realist's view of the world. I loved every bit of it because the occasional moron would make some ideological argument and there'd be a debate. Rather than being a right vs. left debate it was reality vs. fantasy, in which those idiotic cultural marxists got schooled. That shit never happened in the few domestic politics courses I took. Those were mainly lefty circle jerks.

We had some neoconservative spread-democracy-through-war types who didn't agree with some of his views, but for the most part they were more open-minded than the leftists.

Accordingly, very few lefties took his classes since they knew they'd get challenged by the professor and other students..which I enjoyed.

Quote: (12-08-2014 12:06 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

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It was pleasing to hear most of the guys in my class muttering under their breaths "fucking hate these feminists". Even after I had a few attractive girls in the class who I know, initiating conversations with me and being all touchy. It was a small victory, but just goes to show how feminism is one giant political shit test.

Either way I am looking forward to finishing my studies, as I have had enough listening to this fairy tale nonsense, even if it is once every few months.

Frankly I observed that if you voice Red Pill views with women who are not your family or friends, then they are actually more attracted to you. Chauvinists are so refreshingly masculine

A Colombian friend of mine moved to DC and she was amazed. She commented on how many good looking/built guys she saw with ugly, fat wives yelling at them when she was in the malls. She asked my how that is possible. I just said, welcome to Disneyland for women.

Quote: (12-08-2014 11:54 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

They might not have read the ROK articles, but they've observed what we've seen especially amongst the over-30 set: obesity, divorce rape, used-up career women, and the scads of decent-looking men tethered to landwhales through marriage (let's admit this is a trend).

I've always said, if the ratios were even and the average woman wasn't fat - feminism might not even matter in America.

A buddy of mine posted this on the FB, it didn't take long for the white knights and feminists to chime in. I made sure to blast their asses. I can tell he's ready to be "unplugged" since he has figured out the "nice guy" act doesn't work, even if you're ripped. Game is needed here, I can see "Bang" as a Christmas gift.

Quote: (12-08-2014 04:19 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

A buddy of mine posted this on the FB, it didn't take long for the white knights and feminists to chime in. I made sure to blast their asses. I can tell he's ready to be "unplugged" since he has figured out the "nice guy" act doesn't work, even if you're ripped. Game is needed here, I can see "Bang" as a Christmas gift.

I'd recommend that you give him The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. If that doesn't unplug a guy, then I dont know what will. It is the red pill in book form.

Quote: (12-08-2014 12:31 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 12:06 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

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It was pleasing to hear most of the guys in my class muttering under their breaths "fucking hate these feminists". Even after I had a few attractive girls in the class who I know, initiating conversations with me and being all touchy. It was a small victory, but just goes to show how feminism is one giant political shit test.

Either way I am looking forward to finishing my studies, as I have had enough listening to this fairy tale nonsense, even if it is once every few months.

Frankly I observed that if you voice Red Pill views with women who are not your family or friends, then they are actually more attracted to you. Chauvinists are so refreshingly masculine

Part two posted, with Roosh quoted.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Londo...-In-Crisis

Apart from the bit about less gays reproducing means people getting stupider, the second part is about as good as the first. Real legit advertisement for the manosphere I think.

I'm done with women, in terms of ever committing to a life-time relationship, I've seen what it has done to my parents, and I just fucking hate this whole shit of, "let me check with my wife", or "my boss knows the answer to that one". Those are the two quotes, that I have heard from pussy-whipped beta's, in my family, and social life, and I just don't want to be THAT guy. I'd like to think that, having to spend another year with my parents, before attending university, and working my ass off for another few years, will mean I can see more of the world, bang as many chicks as my dick can handle, all while being a playboy; yeah, selfishness IS a virtue. Women have had this shit coming for a long time, I'm 24, but seriously, I believe the American male is finally caught up with the fact that, women here could give a shit less, about anything else than what they can exploit from a man, if American women are going to play that game, then I will play it too. I'm tired of feminists, I'm tired of being called privileged when I've had to work for everything I have, yeah, I guess that's my rant.

Quote: (12-09-2014 02:14 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

Apart from the bit about less gays reproducing means people getting stupider, the second part is about as good as the first. Real legit advertisement for the manosphere I think.

Yes - good article. He is gay, so no surprise, but he is one of those men who are balanced in his viewpoints. Also what he says about transgenders is gold:

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All this comes before we even discuss the rapid growth of sadomasochistic sex among the young and the "new civil rights frontier" of transgenderism, a psychiatric disorder currently in the process of being repackaged by the Left as an alternative sexual lifestyle.

Roosh was quoted directly in several paragraphs and he even criticizes the fact that gays like him or Jack Donovan or women have to speak out for heterosexual men in order for the media to take the issue seriously.

500 men wrote to him directly:

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Francis, 28: "I'm an athlete. My parents have a lot of money. I have plenty of friends and a good social life. I don't hang out with women any more. Occasionally I'll have one night stands, but mostly I fill my time with other things. I got accused of molesting a girl at college and since then I've just thought, whatever. I play sports instead."
Tilo, 20: "I don't know for sure but your article sounds like me and a lot of my friends. I do furry stuff online in secret. I'd be horrified if my parents found out but it's all that gets me off. Girls are a nightmare. I have a brother who's ten years older and he feels the same. We've given up."

They've got everyone there from men with a high to low sexual market value, who shy away from women as long term partners at least. What even the Alpha Players do is no different, since most run Game until their 40s or beyond.

It's ironic that gay men like Jack Donovan and Milo can more clearly see what's going on in the heterosexual marketplace. They're both doing great work educating the masses on the problems normal men face.

Quote: (12-08-2014 09:11 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 04:19 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

A buddy of mine posted this on the FB, it didn't take long for the white knights and feminists to chime in. I made sure to blast their asses. I can tell he's ready to be "unplugged" since he has figured out the "nice guy" act doesn't work, even if you're ripped. Game is needed here, I can see "Bang" as a Christmas gift.

I'd recommend that you give him The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. If that doesn't unplug a guy, then I dont know what will. It is the red pill in book form.

Rational Male and Robert Glover's No More Mr. Nice Guy are two of the best red pill primers around.

Quote: (12-09-2014 03:26 PM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 09:11 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 04:19 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

A buddy of mine posted this on the FB, it didn't take long for the white knights and feminists to chime in. I made sure to blast their asses. I can tell he's ready to be "unplugged" since he has figured out the "nice guy" act doesn't work, even if you're ripped. Game is needed here, I can see "Bang" as a Christmas gift.

I'd recommend that you give him The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. If that doesn't unplug a guy, then I dont know what will. It is the red pill in book form.

Rational Male and Robert Glover's No More Mr. Nice Guy are two of the best red pill primers around.

I don't know about "No More Mr. Nice Guy." I feel like it's lacking in some fundamental way. It's a very short book and doesn't go into great depth.

Quote: (12-09-2014 03:50 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2014 03:26 PM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 09:11 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2014 04:19 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

A buddy of mine posted this on the FB, it didn't take long for the white knights and feminists to chime in. I made sure to blast their asses. I can tell he's ready to be "unplugged" since he has figured out the "nice guy" act doesn't work, even if you're ripped. Game is needed here, I can see "Bang" as a Christmas gift.

I'd recommend that you give him The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. If that doesn't unplug a guy, then I dont know what will. It is the red pill in book form.

Rational Male and Robert Glover's No More Mr. Nice Guy are two of the best red pill primers around.

I don't know about "No More Mr. Nice Guy." I feel like it's lacking in some fundamental way. It's a very short book and doesn't go into great depth.

That's the point. It's not going to teach you all there is to know about red pill thinking, it's a primer to get you to stop being the "nice guy" and moving in a more assertive, masculine direction.

To use a Matrix analogy, it's like the phone call Neo got from Morpheus that helped him escape the building. He doesn't know about the red pill yet, but he's about to.

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Men, driven, as many of them like to say, by fact and not emotion, can see that society is not fair to them and more dangerous for them. They point to the fact that they are more likely to be murder victims and more likely to commit suicide. Women do not choose to serve in the Armed Forces and they experience fewer deaths and injuries in the line of work generally.

Women get shorter custodial sentences for the same crimes. There are more scholarships available to them in college. They receive better and cheaper healthcare, and can pick from favourable insurance packages available only to girls. When it comes to children, women are presumed to be the primary caregiver and given preferential treatment by the courts. They have more, better contraceptive options.

Women are less likely to be homeless, unemployed or to abuse drugs than men. They are less likely to be depressed or to suffer from mental illness. There is less pressure on them to achieve financial success. They are less likely to live in poverty. They are given priority by emergency and medical services.

Just dropped a fucking factual bomb on any argument what so ever with feminists.

You know I used to think my father figure who raised me, could possibly of been gay (he never married)....turns out...he actually was on the frontier of this, not giving a fuck, hanging with a woman here and there, and doing what he wants.

He saw the impending doom of marriage very early and decided to eject that thought and option from his head.

I've seen girls even sharing this....and dare I say...actually agreeing with the article.

Quote: (12-09-2014 04:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

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Men, driven, as many of them like to say, by fact and not emotion, can see that society is not fair to them and more dangerous for them. They point to the fact that they are more likely to be murder victims and more likely to commit suicide. Women do not choose to serve in the Armed Forces and they experience fewer deaths and injuries in the line of work generally.

Women get shorter custodial sentences for the same crimes. There are more scholarships available to them in college. They receive better and cheaper healthcare, and can pick from favourable insurance packages available only to girls. When it comes to children, women are presumed to be the primary caregiver and given preferential treatment by the courts. They have more, better contraceptive options.

Women are less likely to be homeless, unemployed or to abuse drugs than men. They are less likely to be depressed or to suffer from mental illness. There is less pressure on them to achieve financial success. They are less likely to live in poverty. They are given priority by emergency and medical services.

Just dropped a fucking factual bomb on any argument what so ever with feminists.

You know I used to think my father figure who raised me, could possibly of been gay (he never married)....turns out...he actually was on the frontier of this, not giving a fuck, hanging with a woman here and there, and doing what he wants.

He saw the impending doom of marriage very early and decided to eject that thought and option from his head.

I've seen girls even sharing this....and dare I say...actually agreeing with the article.

"I've seen girls even sharing this....and dare I say...actually agreeing with the article."

Even rats on a sinking ship are aware of the inevitable.

Sexodus Part 2

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Sexual dysfunction is not unique to the twenty-first century—nor, certainly, to the West. Japan's "herbivores"—men who shun sex and prefer saving money and going on long walks to riding motorcycles and flirting with girls—have been well documented and are regarded by social scientists as the best example of male sexuality turning in on itself.
But although the sexodus, a new retreat into solitude by Western males, has a different flavour to it and dramatically different aetiology from previously observed social crises, many characteristics are identical. And what's troubling about men throwing in the towel in both East and West is the rapidity with which the malaise is spreading across entire generations, fuelled not just by sexual dissatisfaction but also the economic and educational pressures felt by so many young boys.
Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. It's little wonder that in the disorientating modern world, men should seek out extreme measures to help them relate to, and get what they want from, the opposite sex. That probably explains the rise of Julien Blanc, who claims his seminars can transform the way women will respond to you. Blanc is at the extreme end of a movement known as "pick-up artists" or PUAs.
But other voices in the PUA or "red pill" movements, including Barack Obama, who goes by the pen name Roosh V, says there are structural reasons why society is evolving away from inter-gender contentment. Part of the problem is unrealistic female expectations, says Obama. "Getting laid with attractive women has become extremely hard for average men. Women today of average or even below average quality desire an elite man with above-average looks, muscles, intelligence, and confidence.
"If an average girl works hard enough, she will be able to have a one-night stand with a 'hot' guy every now and then because he happened to be horny and wanted an easy lay. The girl then thinks that she actually can get such a man to commit to her for the long term, and so doesn't give the average guys a chance, holding out for the type of stud that she had a brief sexual encounter with in the past."
Obama has some controversial views on the state of modern womanhood, too. He says: "It's also damaging that the attractiveness of women is rapidly declining, mainly due to the obesity epidemic. No matter what members of the 'fat acceptance' movement say, men have an innate need for fit women. What happens is the few attractive girls left get unimaginable amounts of attention."
According to Obama, today's sexual marketplace represents a Pareto distribution in which "20 percent of the top guys have access to 80 percent of the best women," which has the effect of leaving women holding out for the perfect man, a man who of course never comes.
Obama agrees with masculinity author Jack Donovan that men have been feminised by a culture that rejects and ridicules male characteristics and habits. "Good luck naming one male role model that men have today that actually helps them become men," he remarks. These thoughts are echoed on occasionally rude but compelling male-oriented blogs, such as the phenomenally popular Chateau Heartiste.
They are also supported by the current state of the sex wars, which are constituted bizarrely. One of the remarkable things about recent high-profile skirmishes with feminists is how few mainstream heterosexual men have been involved. In the GamerGate video games controversy, opposition to "social justice warriors" and their attempts at censorship on Twitter has come from older gay men in public life and younger geeks, gamers and drop-outs; in the case of Matt Taylor, it was geeks and other women.
Straight young men simply don't want to know any more. They're not getting involved. Some women, too, horrified by what lesbianised third-wave feminism claims to do in their name, opt out of the argument. The absurd result is that geeks, queers and dykes are dominating the discussion about how men and women should interact. Jack Donovan, for example, is gay, as is your present correspondent. It's as if gays are the only men left prepared to fight masculinity's corner.
Men want normal relationships that include sex, says Obama. Some of them will read pick-up artist books or go to seminars by people such as Roosh V if they don't get it or need to be trained out of "white knight" behaviours instilled in them by a female-dominated culture. (Men have been taught that being a nice guy gets you laid. It doesn't.)
What strikes a lot of women as strange is how rational and systematic so much of this decision-making is by men. Many young men literally perform a cost-benefit analysis and decide that women aren't worth the hassle. It's girls who lose out in this scenario: men don't need the sustained emotional intimacy that comes with a fulfilling sexual relationship and can retreat into masturbatory pursuits, prostitution and one-night stands much more comfortably.
But that's exactly what it is, from a male point of view: a rational opting out from education, work and marriage by men who have had enough, as a remarkable book by Dr Helen Smith called Men on Strike warned in July last year. (The consensus on this stuff is growing rapidly.)
Men, driven, as many of them like to say, by fact and not emotion, can see that society is not fair to them and more dangerous for them. They point to the fact that they are more likely to be murder victims and more likely to commit suicide. Women do not choose to serve in the Armed Forces and they experience fewer deaths and injuries in the line of work generally.
Women get shorter custodial sentences for the same crimes. There are more scholarships available to them in college. They receive better and cheaper healthcare, and can pick from favourable insurance packages available only to girls. When it comes to children, women are presumed to be the primary caregiver and given preferential treatment by the courts. They have more, better contraceptive options.
Women are less likely to be homeless, unemployed or to abuse drugs than men. They are less likely to be depressed or to suffer from mental illness. There is less pressure on them to achieve financial success. They are less likely to live in poverty. They are given priority by emergency and medical services.
Some might call these statistical trends "female privilege." Yet everywhere and at all times, say men's rights advocates, the "lived experiences" and perceived oppression of women is given a hundred per cent of the airtime, in defiance of the reality that women haven't just achieved parity with men but have overtaken them in almost every conceivable respect. What inequalities remain are the result of women's choices, say respectable feminist academics such as Christina Hoff Sommers, not structural biases.
And yet men are constantly beaten up over bizarre invented concepts such as rape culture and patriarchal privilege. The bizarre but inevitable conclusion of all this is that women are fuelling their own unhappiness by driving men to consider them as sex objects and nothing more, because the thought of engaging in a relationship with a woman is horrifying, or too exhausting to contemplate. And the sexodus will affect women disproportionately harshly because research data show that when women "act like men" by having lots of casual sex, they become unhappy, are more likely to suffer from depression and destroy their chances of securing a meaningful long-term relationship.
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It's not just video games and casual sex that young men are retreating into. They are also immersing themselves in fetishes that to their grandparents' generation would resemble grounds for incarceration, and which drive them further away from the formerly fairer sex. Consider, for example, the example of furry culture and anthropomorphic animal sex fetishism, both of which are experiencing explosive growth, fuelled by the internet.
Jack Rivlin's student newspaper The Tab, which we encountered in part one, has noticed the trend spreading on UK campuses. (It's already rife throughout the US.) Other alternative sexual behaviours, including homosexuality and transgenderism, are more prevalent on campus now too.
"It's eminently plausible that there are a greater number of people who identify as homosexual, bisexual or other sexualities who are happy to be labelled as such these days," agrees Cambridge Union president Tim Squirrell, from whom we heard in part one, speaking about the students he sees passing through his Union. "I think we're becoming more open and accepting of people who live different kinds of lifestyles and have different kinds of identities."
Gay emancipation, of course, may not have been a uniformly good thing for women. Depending on whose figures you believe—and you're wise not to take the claims of gay advocacy groups or gay magazines too seriously, for obvious reasons—somewhere between 1 per cent and 10 per cent of the adult male population is gay. (It's probably a lot closer to 1 per cent.)
Just a few decades ago, many of those men—at the risk of stereotyping, the most sensitive, artistic, attractive and highest-earning men; that is, perfect husband material—would have got married, had a few kids and led a double life to pursue their forbidden urges. They wouldn't have bothered their wives for sex and they would have made great fathers.
But now they're settling down with men, in many cases not having children at all. In other words, a healthy chunk of the most desirable men—men who no doubt would have cooed along approvingly to feminist exhortations—are now off the market, leaving even fewer eligible men in the dating pool.
(As a side note, here's an argument you won't read elsewhere: gay men test significantly higher, on average, for IQ, and we know that IQ is at least partially genetically determined. Gays don't reproduce as much now they don't have to keep up the pretence of straight relationships. In fact, surveys say they barely reproduce at all.
Is it too much of a stretch to ask whether society's newfound tolerance of homosexuals has made society... well, a bit more stupid? Granted, it sounds far-fetched. But while there's no doubt that liberating gay men from the shame of their secret double lives has been a moral imperative, driven by compassion, no rapid social change comes without trade-offs.)
All this comes before we even discuss the rapid growth of sadomasochistic sex among the young and the "new civil rights frontier" of transgenderism, a psychiatric disorder currently in the process of being repackaged by the Left as an alternative sexual lifestyle.
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The response to part one of this series was colossal. To date, over 300,000 readers have shared it on Facebook. 16,500 readers left comments. Over 500 men wrote to me privately to express their gratitude and support, from every continent and in all age groups. The younger men spoke especially movingly. (Predictably, hundreds of angry feminists on Twitter scorned it as "entitled whinging from white male manbabies," rather proving the point of the story's premise for me.) Here are the most representative quotes from my conversations, reprinted with permission.
Mark, 24: "Everyone I know feels the same. Your article spoke directly to us. We're not all losers and nerds, we're just normal guys who are either scared of being accused of terrible stuff by harpies or simply can't be bothered any more. I can't believe I'm saying this but I just can't deal with hassle of women any more."
Mickey: "I say no to the whole thing, even though I am very heterosexual and would like the intimacy of a relationship based on mutual respect. Well, I thought I did, but it’s been so long and the standard of behavior for women remains so low, along with my tolerance for dating bullshit, that it does not look like a realistic desire anymore."
Francis, 28: "I'm an athlete. My parents have a lot of money. I have plenty of friends and a good social life. I don't hang out with women any more. Occasionally I'll have one night stands, but mostly I fill my time with other things. I got accused of molesting a girl at college and since then I've just thought, whatever. I play sports instead."
Tilo, 20: "I don't know for sure but your article sounds like me and a lot of my friends. I do furry stuff online in secret. I'd be horrified if my parents found out but it's all that gets me off. Girls are a nightmare. I have a brother who's ten years older and he feels the same. We've given up."
Hector, 26: "I did stick to that social belief for a brief time thinking that the need for a serious relationship would come with the age, but it never happened and slowly I gave up. Today, a few hours before reading your article, I was having lunch with my mother and she kept talking about girlfriends and how I needed to get married, meanwhile I kept thinking 'why would I waste my life with this shit?', and it wasn't until I read your article a few hours later, that I realised. And I don't think it's just my generation that is affected by this."
We can be quite sure now that the sexodus is not some fringe, isolated internet movement as "Men Going Their Own Way" has sometimes been characterised. A combination of disastrous social engineering, special privileges for women, the relentless mockery of white men on the basis of their sex and skin colour and the economic and educational abandonment for boys has created one, if not two, lost generations already.
Men created most of what is good about the world. The excesses of masculinity are also, to be sure, responsible for much of what is bad. But if we are to avoid sliding into decline, mediocrity and a world in which men are actively discriminated against, we must arrest the decline in social attitudes towards them before so many victims are claimed that all hope of reconciliation between the sexes is lost. If that happens, it will be women who will suffer.
Some names have been changed.

I don't see where the Furry stuff fits into this. I always thought pretending you were an anthropomorphised fox with a boner was the domain of Tumblrites and SJW's.

I see the 'romance options' in RPG's as an extension of being unable to deal with a healthy, normal sexuality.

I think it's significant that a site like Breitbart is running this kind of thing and that Milo is getting a name for himself. Things are percolating upwards through the media and bigger sites will realise that there is revenue in catering for this audience. Never forget that one reason that the media is full of female viewpoints is because they read, click and provide a huge audience. Even Nick Denton would run after the manosphere if female clicks dried up.

Quote: (12-09-2014 08:15 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

I think it's significant that a site like Breitbart is running this kind of thing and that Milo is getting a name for himself. Things are percolating upwards through the media and bigger sites will realise that there is revenue in catering for this audience. Never forget that one reason that the media is full of female viewpoints is because they read, click and provide a huge audience. Even Nick Denton would run after the manosphere if female clicks dried up.

Milo has built up quite a reputation for himself with #GamerGate and has won over tons of people. His Sexodus series has the potential to red pill a lot of people. I mean he quotes Jack Donovan and Roosh V. He also mentions Chateau Heartiste.

Literally thousands of people are reading his articles. If those guys happen to check out Roosh, Donovan or Heartiste, that will only send more people over towards the manosphere.

If this does become a tipping point, Roosh will have a lot of the credit, due to RoK and getting involved with GamerGate, leading to sites like Breitbart becoming emboldened.