Quote: (11-07-2014 02:20 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Well Gio, maybe I need to move out to SF.

No, don't move to San Francisco. The girls in Florida are better looking. Especially, the White girls.

Have you tried the University of Miami? Florida State university? The University of Florida? The University of Tampa? Miami-Dade Community College?

If you want skinny women, you must focus on younger women.

If you want younger women, focus major universities.

Quote: (11-07-2014 02:20 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

So, if there is someplace in America with a bunch of girls that look like this then I would like to know about it.

For that type of girl specifically, I would go to the University of Minnesota, The University of Arizona, Arizona State, The University of Nebraska, The University of Texas, The University of Kentucky, The University Of Georgia, Penn State, Michigan, Boise State, etc., etc.

If you want skinny, cute White girls, almost any large university will have thousands of them.

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Quote: (08-15-2008 05:18 PM)Roissy Wrote:  

you won't be able to rely on your looks and wait for girls to check you out. you'll have to go in cold and be prepared for her objections to the age difference with a snappy line and the proper frame.

At what stage does this discussion of age difference come up? I have taken a dont ask, dont tell approach mostly. I dont bring up the age topic at all. I think it is better not to draw attention to it, because then it shows them that there is something to be uncomfortable about it and they begin to rethink. If she likes how you look, I dont think an age discussion should take place until there is a potential for it to evolve into something serious. Btw, what do you say to counter their objections when/if they do come up?

I'm 37, so not quite at 40 but rounding the corner. One thing that changes with age and experience, especially regarding younger women, is the dynamic itself. You take them less seriously in every way. How could you not? It's almost like you're a high school teacher and they are just high school kids. [I'm just making an analogy here.]

If they ask you how old you are, you just say it matter-of-factly because it doesn't matter one way or the other what happens. Personally, I've never scared a younger woman away because of my age. If we're at the point where she's asking me she's at least curious, as roissy points out. Some have asked me only after sex. If anything, many of them prefer men that are older than I am, 40+. There are many psychological dispositions that a woman may have which may lead her to be attracted to a man, yet a commonality is being attracted to an older man that is dominant and doesn't take her seriously. This is from my own life:

Her: So, how old are you?
Me: I'm 37. You?
Her: I'm 24.

At this point the girl seemed to feel insecure because she was so much younger. You can exploit this if you like, reminding her of your dominance. This can be done with a smirk and a comment, or you can just say,

Me: Okay. [Conversation continues.]

The bottom line, though, is that women are women are women. If you're barking up the wrong tree with a woman who has no interest in you it doesn't matter if she's 20 or 40.

Some younger women prefer older men, and some much older men. This is why, as men, we rule and why older women hate us as we grow older. Enjoy.

It depends on looks though. I'm 36 and the younger women are shocked when I tell them that. They think I'm 27. I always get a good laugh out of that. I'm in the wrong location, so before my younger looks fade I'm moving to a location where dating is much easier.

@Gio Thanks buddy but I am doing ok right now, just day gaming anywhere I go. At moment, I have more girls than I can handle, including latin girls, so I can't really complaint about Miami anymore. Plus this is the tourist season so they are lots of foreign girls flying in now. I have a date with a Russian tonight and a Polish girl coming in for a week on Monday.

It's a weird feeling when girls start asking you out and picking you up. You would think you would like it but somehow it's not as exciting as you picking up a girl. You don't get the thrill of the chase and everything seems too easy...

Guys I'm new here. Enjoying this thread. Good posts here my favorite being the advice of reco2100. I am 47 years old and I do photography work as a side business. I bring this up because of something that happened last year. Photography is my passion and when I work with a camera I am alive and full of energy, doing my thing, actively engaged in my mission.

Last year I was doing head shots for a 27 year old local model and beauty contestant. Drop dead gorgeous girl and an engineering student to boot. Very captivating, high quality woman. While I am working with her I noticed long eye contact, shy giggles, playing with her hair, etc. My method of getting good head shots involves a lot of banter to elicit the right expressions. I stayed 100% professional, did not attempt to take things further, etc. but could not stop thinking there was something else going on.

A week later she texts me and we go out for drinks. One thing led to another and now, a year later, we are still dating even though now it is a long distance thing.

I asked her at one point what drew her to me. She told me it was my energy and passion. It turned her on immensely. I am very serious about diet and fitness and dress well and these things help as well. But the main attraction was that zeal and fire. Our 20 year age difference means nothing. It is rarely discussed.

The reason why I am posting this is that women love a man on a mission, doing his thing, vigorously engaged in his passion. If you go out and do what you love, and women see you in your element, your attractiveness will go out the roof, regardless of your age.

Yes, I do feel the hounds nipping at my heels, I will be 48 very soon. I am not going to lie, it does bother me, sometimes a lot. I can't go and trail run or bike mountains as well as I used to. Do I regularly pull 20 something girls? No, I do not. Remain positive and realize rules/conventions are broken by the bold.

Nice! Now knock her up before she gets away!

....just kidding - happy for you, but better be careful with someone that motivated.

Quote: (11-08-2014 02:49 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Nice! Now knock her up before she gets away!

....just kidding - happy for you, but better be careful with someone that motivated.

Good one and exactly what some of my crew tell me, half jokingly, I should do. I think the other part of the equation is that I don't hang on tightly to her, am not needy, have a life, etc.

Well, guess who's gonna be needy with a bun in the oven? heheh....

The comment about just stating your age and using it as an advantage (because you are older, you have maturity/wisdom/money/whatever) is dead on. It opens the door with many girls who have lost interest in guys their age.

I'm in my 40s and used to feel that the opportunities to bang (younger) women were drying up. And in some sense they clearly have. Yet, I've taken four different women to bed (and had sex with each of them) so far this year, all significantly younger. I don't think I had more than two sexual partners in any given year when I was in my 20s and 30s.

It's strange... but I'm getting more pussy now than at any other time in my life (except when I was in a relationship).

Quote: (11-07-2014 02:27 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2014 02:20 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Well Gio, maybe I need to move out to SF. This is a cute, "skinny" girl to me and I don't run into many of them in a given week. So, if there is someplace in America with a bunch of girls that look like this then I would like to know about it!

Nashville, TN.

Can't say it enough but took Gio with me to Music City USA and his words "Best responses from White girls I have received anywhere in USA" Girls in Nashville are mostly white, blonde with green and blue eyes,feminine with southern classy demeanour, open to all and absolutely gorgeous. wait for Gio's book, I'm sure he will include a Bang Vanderbilt section in there

Ha! I happened to be chatting up a sweet late 20s bartender from Nashville just last night (I'm in CA). Blonde with pretty features, blue eyes, athletic, very nice body from what I could tell. She kept giving me these great views down her top every time she would bend over to grab some mixers. I chalked it up to working me for a bigger tip, but have to agree she fit the Nashville stereotype.

Quote: (11-08-2014 03:41 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Well, guess who's gonna be needy with a bun in the oven? heheh....

You got that right. It doesn't matter what happens from here on out. Just enjoying the ride. Now I know what is possible.

Quote: (11-09-2014 02:08 AM)hardman Wrote:  

The comment about just stating your age and using it as an advantage (because you are older, you have maturity/wisdom/money/whatever) is dead on. It opens the door with many girls who have lost interest in guys their age.

I'm in my 40s and used to feel that the opportunities to bang (younger) women were drying up. And in some sense they clearly have. Yet, I've taken four different women to bed (and had sex with each of them) so far this year, all significantly younger. I don't think I had more than two sexual partners in any given year when I was in my 20s and 30s.

It's strange... but I'm getting more pussy now than at any other time in my life (except when I was in a relationship).

Same here I am more sexually satisfied @ 40 then I ever was in my life. May be my game has Improved, May it's the older more mature guy thing but this lothario is happy.

One of the reason girls are more attracted to older men is because we simply stop caring about a lot of shit. We don't sweat them as much and women always find this attractive. They always want what the guy that appears to care the least.

I think this is the key not caring. What do you think makes that happen? Experience? Practice?

When you're 20, you care about what everybody thinks.
When you're 40, you don't care about what everybody thinks.
When you're 60, you realize nobody ever thought about you.

Quote: (11-10-2014 12:32 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

I think this is the key not caring. What do you think makes that happen? Experience? Practice?

I personally believe that we should NOT be making these kinds of broad statements as if they apply to everyone and also to suggest that picking up younger chicks (10 years or 20 years or more younger) is some kind of walk in the park.

Certainly, there can be various skills involved such as knowing which girls to target and which girls are potentially receptive to older guys. However, I find my level of attraction to the girl to sometimes cause me to care a lot about the results, and yet I still consider myself to be fairly successful in picking up girls who are quite younger than me.

Yet, surely results vary too. They probably vary from individual to individual and they likely vary from situation to situation. Surely some guys may assert that they have a formula and a pattern, and I do NOT doubt that there is some truth to that, yet I find a variety of monkey wrenches and variability in any potential pattern situation.

Sometimes, I could care less about some of the girls and I get bangs and other times, I invest into the girl in various ways and spend quite a bit of time with her, and I think that I am going to get a bang out of the young chick and there become to many changes in the dynamics and the bang seems way to difficult to achieve.

I do attribute some of the variability to what is going on with the girl(s), but I also attribute this variability to what is going on in my life at the time that I am interacting with the girl(s) and the number of options that i have with other girls (if any). Surely, many girls, especially the younger ones in my experience seem to place a greater amount of value on you if they believe that you have a large number of options and you don't really need to bang them (but how a guy plays this "number of options" perception scenario can sometimes backfire too, because sometimes girls will purposefully refuse to bang just to exert some kind of control over a guy).

Quote: (11-10-2014 12:32 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

I think this is the key not caring. What do you think makes that happen? Experience? Practice?

I believe non-reactivity is one of the most attractive things to women. I don't think of it as a young and old thing. You can literally see shifts in a woman's behavior during an interaction as you hold frame and show little or no reaction to hoops. Most modern men do still jump through them.

I don't think not caring is required. If you care but still don't react emotionally, it will be perceived as attractive.

Ideally when you're in 20's/30's you should be thinking ahead about were you want to be at in your 50's and building your game/lifestyle accordingly. If you're mid 50's and haven't spent decades sorting yourself out you're basically fucked! Good luck.

If all else fails just do provider game go to sugardaddy.com and make an arrangement with a young hottie there.

I was questioning which thread would be best for this post.

Recently, i have been banging a lot - a girl who is about 15 years younger than me (so she's 33). She has a lot of energy, and she really turns me on because she dresses sexy and she likes to joke a lot and she is physically flirtatious and experimental. Actually, event though she is 33, she does NOT have a lot of sex experience, and she seems to find a lot of pleasure in her sexual experiments with me. So far, and in the last several weeks, her perspective and my attraction to her has resulted in a lot of sexual marathon sessions - poor me being such a sexual guinea pig.. hahaha.

Even though this girl really stimulates me with her affections, sometimes I have had some performance issues with her, especially when attempting a second or third bang in a short period of time (such as less than 12 hours). So far, I have not taken dick pills or hormones, so I just try to manage my orgasms in order to more easily keep an erection. In that regard, she may get 3 or 4 orgasms to my one. With this orgasm management strategy, I have found that I can stay hard much longer.. and I still achieve a lot of sexual pleasure without orgasms each time.

Also, frequently, I find that if I do push ups and other kinds of weight resistant exercises before I meet with her, then I am also feeling stronger and my erections come easier and last longer.

I don't keep my dick issues a secret from girls who I bang, and this recent girl joked to me that I should get an older woman in order that I could just have an orgasm once or twice a week.. hahahaha. I did NOT really consider her joke to be very funny because frequently, and especially more recently, I find it difficult to get excited by women who are close to my age.

In that conversation, I told her that I thought that the solution for me was getting younger women (meaning younger than her). It seems to me that she did NOT really like my response, because she had been continuously trying to assert that she is too young for me... hahahaha. What does she know? I believe that she realizes that I am really disinclined to limit my prospects to older women, and she remains a little bothered by that.

^ Her response was whack but your rebuttal was perfect. I find women are threatened more by the age thing than men.

The main thing is not too worry about it, if you feel you need help then there is always Cialis. I am about your age and have never tried it, I don't want to be dependent on that stuff.

Maybe hit the gym harder, do leg training. That works wonders for your "boy".

Quote: (11-21-2014 01:50 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ Her response was whack but your rebuttal was perfect. I find women are threatened more by the age thing than men.

The main thing is not too worry about it, if you feel you need help then there is always Cialis. I am about your age and have never tried it, I don't want to be dependent on that stuff.

Maybe hit the gym harder, do leg training. That works wonders for your "boy".

Thanks.. yeah I got the dick pills on my mind and even thoughts of testosterone. However, I would rather continue to attempt to maintain all natural to the extent feasible and maybe in my later years add some chemistry or hormones if that seems to be a reasonable next step.

In about the past year and a half or so, I have been attempting to employ more resistance training into my exercise routines, and I believe that resistance training helps (as compared with cardio).

I frequently do upper body resistance training exercises, but I agree probably, I should incorporate more leg routines into my mix of resistance training.. Even squats at home could probably be helpful, if there is insufficient time to fit legs into a gym routine in certain weeks.

Quote: (11-21-2014 08:06 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

I was questioning which thread would be best for this post. So far, and in the last several weeks, her perspective and my attraction to her has resulted in a lot of sexual marathon sessions - poor me being such a sexual guinea pig.. hahaha.

Even though this girl really stimulates me with her affections, sometimes I have had some performance issues with her, especially when attempting a second or third bang in a short period of time (such as less than 12 hours). ...With this orgasm management strategy, I have found that I can stay hard much longer.. and I still achieve a lot of sexual pleasure without orgasms each time.

All joking aside, find a hot girl < 24 and you will have no performance issues as long as you're in shape. This 19-yr old I picked up months ago kept me hard all night, even after a few drinks. Multiple sessions and orgasms for her and me.

As you said, get the cardio down to have good stamina, and do the heavy lifting for testosterone and holding positions longer. Everyone should be doing both, esp as we age.

On a side note, I think Cialis and the rest of them come in doses from like 2.5mg to 20mg. I'd have to guess the 2.5 mg is not going to make anyone dependent on them. Why not go for the free trial if you're looking for a little help either mentally or sexually?

Quote: (11-07-2014 03:57 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2014 02:20 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Well Gio, maybe I need to move out to SF.

No, don't move to San Francisco. The girls in Florida are better looking. Especially, the White girls.

Have you tried the University of Miami? Florida State university? The University of Florida? The University of Tampa? Miami-Dade Community College?

If you want skinny women, you must focus on younger women.

If you want younger women, focus major universities.

Also Rollins, UCF, USF, et al for skinny white girls. I haven't been to Oxford, but Tallahassee has the hottest blondes I've ever seen and lots of them and very southern and friendly to everyone.

JayJuanGee - squats is a great exercise. I do squats with no weights but high reps or I do with weight (225llb) max and push out 10 to 12 reps.
There is no insufficient time just make sure you incorporate a leg workout, sex will be better after you have done a leg workout.

I would try low dosage of testosterone before I would take Viagra or Cialis.

How many of you 40 + year old guys hit on college age girls....with success? Talking 20 -23ish ?

I do as it's the only good demographic in my area of attractive single women. I have on/off success with dates and a few bangs. My bangs so far are limited to grad school age girls....25 or older.

Over the past year or so I've picked up at least 8-9 of them. None over 21. Many college girls are dying for an older guy to show them the ropes, metaphorically or literally. I stopped seeing some of them simply because they weren't as hot as the others, even if they were 19.

Think of them as the 'streaming porn' generation. Most of them seem to have few inhibitions or hangups about sex. They're curious and like dominant older males. That's what I've learned, anyway.

My hair has started to go silver/gray and it doesn't stop them even a little. I think it's getting me more young girls, in fact.

Living in a large metro area helps as well. Go fish in the stocked pool.