You know the type. Hot. Permanent Scowl on their face.

There's a girl in my building I come across who fits this description. She's a borderline 8 but has a 'don't talk to me' look on her face. It works.

But she makes me curious..do guys here approach girls like this and if so what has been the outcome?

I've always taken a 'not worth the hassle/don't want to pump up the ego further' approach but would like to here from the players here.

I had a date with one recently.

Bitch face and pretentious attitude to match.

I don't care how hot she is, if she has an ugly soul, I'm not even interested in hate fucking her.

Those are the ones who hit the wall especially early and especially hard.

2 things

1) mean face is to stop you from hollering (talking on the phone, being in a book, headphones - all of those are anti-hollering measures)

2) mean face might just be her natural look (she might not even be aware she's looking unapproachable - a minority)

You'll never know which one it is until you step to her.

In which case
- she'll acknowledge you, stop and listen,and feel what you're saying
- she'll ignore you and go about her business
- she'll curse you, and call her cousins in the gang/mafia/police department.

From a male perspective, there's literally nothing to lose but 10-20 seconds, 100 seconds if she hears your rap and then disses you.

WIA

The simple countermove to this is to just not take them seriously.

When I'm in the mood I troll the fuck out of girls like this,

I approach, the rate is as low as you would expect.

The mind controls the subtle facial emotions we express. There are some girls (even some hot ones) that literally if you offered $500 couldn't make some of the bitch faces these girls make because their mind has never had those feelings to express (narcissism). The best they could do are goofy imitations.

If the average rate to hook a girl to get a number is let's say 30% and to bang is 2-5% (daygame), then these bitchy girls must be 5% number and 1% or less for the bang in my experience. You must be exactly her type, these girls are with little exception the opposite of open minded. They know exactly what they like, because they've been given what ever option they want since puberty.

Quote: (11-13-2014 12:23 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I approach, the rate is as low as you would expect.

The mind controls the subtle facial emotions we express.

That line is gold. It verbalizes what I've always thought subconsciously. A girl's facial expression really is a window to her mind. It's also why it's easier to sport foreign girls...the expression on their faces is often less hardened and man like compared to their western counterparts.

^ If you really want to bang the chick approach if she is 100% cold just know her personality is trash, she could at least fake "I'm flattered, but I'm taken". It takes the same effort as being a cunt. I get a chick having a neutral or occupied expression, but outright bitchy there is no call for it. The Western world treats them much too well already.

They aren't victims, they are nobility being inconvenienced.

There's enough hot chicks walking around that somehow perfectly get by without this attitude.

How to approach a girl with resting bitch face:

I don't approach them if they seem bitchy (even if they are probably nice), it makes a negative vibe. And by the time they hit 35 y.o., the Wall will take care of wiping the bitchy face off.

bitchy face is often a defense mechanism here. 9s don't get approached a lot so they become frustrated and close themselves mentally. my last bang was actually a girl like this, bitchy and unapproachable outside, craving a man inside.

This video explains Bitchy Face:

http://youtu.be/3v98CPXNiSk

Quote: (11-13-2014 06:02 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

bitchy face is often a defense mechanism here. 9s don't get approached a lot so they become frustrated and close themselves mentally. my last bang was actually a girl like this, bitchy and unapproachable outside, craving a man inside.

Where I'm from, 9's get approached the most.

They're being approached by so-called alphas and betas that just say "fuck it" (alphas in training?)

And it's not just "hey how you doing",
It's lurking about, skulking, stalking, elaborate shit,

Getting unwanted attention from dudes in her class, school, job, synagogue, mosque...

It's a never ending symphony of "inspired" men. Many of whom are aggressive and persistent.

A lot of "Usually I don't do this"

If you ever date a 9, ask her about her day.
A very aware 9 will break it down.

Some 9's have created psychological devices to cope with that kind of attention,
"that guy doesn't like me like that"
"that guy doesn't want something"
"he's just being nice"

They literally don't see all of the attempts to bang her because it'd be just too much.

It's a Hollywood fantasy that the pretty girls don't get talked to.
In reality, they get ton of attention, just not from the guys they WANT.

WIA

Mystery spoke of the bitch shield or protection shield. The neg was made to lower the shield. Or you could just make her laugh or smile.

Give it a go!

Quote: (11-13-2014 08:16 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Mystery spoke of the bitch shield or protection shield. The neg was made to lower the shield. Or you could just make her laugh or smile.

This, this is why you open a girl with a bitch shield with something bizarre vs. and elderly opener on a bitch face. That bitch face is ready for anything even remotely like a pickup line.

I like "whats with the 'who farted' face?" and then monkey their scowl. Continue with "thats the face I make when I know someone farted but I haven't quite figured out who did it"

It makes them self conscious about their facial expression.

Maybe this is different in different place, but here girls will intentionally put on a bitchy resting face when they're not open to talking to people. Girls will jokingly brag about how good their bitch face is. It's the same reason they wear headphones in public and don't listen to music. Sometimes that girl just wants to go home and order chinese and not get hollered at.

You can never know how a girl really is or if she's attracted to you on some minimal level UNTIL you approach her. Until you approach her you usually don't even exist in her universe. I can't count the number of times where I thought a girl was going to be bitchy or not be into me and I was wrong! If anything I am always surprised by how receptive they are. Are there truly bitchy girls out there? Yep, but there are a very small minority and sometimes if could just be that time of the month or something.

The face of every Slav you know

Quote: (11-13-2014 06:39 AM)Estebanh Wrote:  

This video explains Bitchy Face:

http://youtu.be/3v98CPXNiSk

Your welcome






On that note, pretty sure I have resting asshole face? Whatever.

Quote: (11-13-2014 06:39 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

They literally don't see all of the attempts to bang her because it'd be just too much.

It's a Hollywood fantasy that the pretty girls don't get talked to.
In reality, they get ton of attention, just not from the guys they WANT.

WIA

Yup they're already pre-screening, that's why drain everyone out (bitch shield/face) unless it's the guy they want.

I'd go out on a limb and guess they have a fine filter and are extremely picky. (most)

Interesting post. I think an 8 is always worth approaching if you have the opportunity. It is a low investment on your end.

This may call for the Roosh line, "I noticed you had a sad look on your face".

By permanent scowl do you mean something like this?

Girls with a resting bitch face are my favorite. Easiest to charm in my book.

Why would anyone volunteer to be treated like scum? Makes no sense to me.
I go out my way to give these girls the same treatment.