I am curious about how life played out for the girls who you thought were going to make good wives and mothers at the time when you were dating them. Did they end up finding someone else after you and settle down?

It seems like it's very easy for even a good girl to screw up during the 10 years she has to find a husband. Modern relationships as well as friendships are more difficult to keep with people not staying in one place, everybody focusing on work more than building a personal life.

I did actually. About five years ago. We dated for three months. We met in university, she was a poli-sci student and worked as a nanny to pay her way through school. She loved kids, was a great cook, came from an old-fashion, slightly religious family etc. She would deliver coffee and a cookie to me while I was in lab at university. She was definitely marriage material. I was like 22 at the time and had zero interest in any of that so we didn't last too long.

I'm not sure what she's up to these days. When we broke up, she blocked me from everything. I'm sure that she's married now. She was 21 when I dated her and talked openly about wanting to get married and have kids ASAP.

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

I'm close to your age and seen the same.

After seeing the end results of years, I feel like I won the damn lottery.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

I'm nearly 30 and they're all fat already. Girls a few years younger then me, married and fucking porky pigs.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:56 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

I'm nearly 30 and they're all fat already. Girls a few years younger then me, married and fucking porky pigs.

It's the legs, man. Those fat, cellulite filled legs. Even early 20s girls have them.

Disgusting.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:45 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

I'm close to your age and seen the same.

After seeing the end results of years, I feel like I won the damn lottery.

Same here.

It's awful how fat many of these women become after popping out a couple kids. They have zero restraint back home and are told fat is beautiful so go figure. Lot of them just post all sorts of stupid stuff on Facebook all day long too as if anyone cares.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

This scares me so much. I know it's true.

Although, you do see the odd smoking hot 45 year old woman and that gives me hope for the future.

I think at the time I definitely believed that I was dating one, but then you look back and see all the fallacies of her character and laugh. There is no way I would let any girl I've ever been with be the mother of my child.

My girlfriend is actually a little skinnier than I prefer, but I look at it like fat-insurance if I stay with her longterm.

On the other issue, I did date one girl for a while that was what you'd consider marriage material, and she's getting married now to the guy she started dating after me. I think most girls who are marriage-minded and fairly feminine will get married by their late 20s. It's just a question of how many of them get lazy/get fat/get divorced later on.

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:45 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

I'm close to your age and seen the same.

After seeing the end results of years, I feel like I won the damn lottery.

Late 40s here. Same.

I used to lament all the "catches" I never caught. Then I see them on Facebook or at reunions and see their sad sack husbands and I am so happy to be smashing girls 16+ years younger than me.

Quote: (07-28-2014 07:56 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  

I am curious about how life played out for the girls who you thought were going to make good wives and mothers at the time when you were dating them. Did they end up finding someone else after you and settle down?

It seems like it's very easy for even a good girl to screw up during the 10 years she has to find a husband. Modern relationships as well as friendships are more difficult to keep with people not staying in one place, everybody focusing on work more than building a personal life.

Yes.

1st gf - I think was marriage material. First gf though so there was no way in my mostly beta ways that I was going to keep her longer than the two years I dated her before she went to college. She's married to some pudgy dorky dude who she seems happy enough with. They have a cat. She has not gained any appreciable weight and due to her good genetics looks pretty damn good for her age, although she is not a gym rat she stays thin, which is a lot more than can be said for most of her friends. Oh, just checked and they are apparently having a baby. I'm sure she'll be a good mother, although it will remain to be seen what kind of shape she is in afterwards. Also, so wish I had humped her. Luckily I'm not the daddy!

Another gf - No. She's probably a little heavier than she was with me. She's still relatively pretty but I'm sure will hit the wall hard eventually. She's never dated anyone for very long (despite dating me for years), she doesn't have a cat but probably will descend into cat-lady-hood eventually. Her younger sister is long since married and probably remained a virgin or very low partner count before marrying. Only regret is not banging her sister.

Another gf - In a relationship with a dude she despised but who she then decided wasn't as bad after we were done banging. I guess all the fat sluts he banged didn't turn her off enough as he makes decent coin and was around her all the time (logistics!). Maybe she'll marry that dude, but more likely he'll upgrade at some point. She does physical training nearly every day so she'll look good until she marries or pops out a kid and then will probably explode (if she stops working out...the rest of her family are mostly fat).

Another girl I was FWB with for a while. Married some big step down dude (financial reasons I'm sure) when she realized she wasn't getting any younger, just recently popped out a kid to keep up with her friends. She had already started getting bigger before getting pregnant and will most likely continue. No regrets, although it is a little sad to think that when I hang out with mutual friends I used to absolutely facefuck her (her request) to no end and that she'd take my sheets home and bring them back washed. Makes it a little hard to talk to dude about how happy he is. Oh well. Surprisingly she will likely make a good mother.

Another girl I dated as part of my harem got smart and before she hit the wall found a nice dude to date who happens to be from her hometown. She moved back there with him and will probably end up marrying/popping out kids. She will probably be the absolute best mother of all. I support anything she does. Smart girl, didn't slut around really, and fucking cool.

Another girl who was part of my harem is dating some sort of disabled guy, probably a good fit for her as he'll never leave her. Don't know what to think about it, some days I wouldn't mind hanging/banging her again but I know we couldn't just remain friends so I pretty much don't interact with her.

Another really nice/good girl I had as part of my harem is still really good/nice and not dating anyone. She lives with her family and has a very small circle of friends. If I had to choose someone other than my current girl to date/marry (like forced to) out of the girls I've dated, it'd probably be her. I know she'd be a loving mother and she's fiscally responsible, a trait so foreign to most women/people nowadays.

Another girl who I dated with huge boobies is still searching for a guy that could tolerate her FUCKING WEIRDNESS. I hope she does. She's just got too much of the crazy in her I think. I wish I had given her a better banging during the time we spent together. Never quite boned that well...chemistry was off? No regrets other than that, but she hasn't hit the wall yet and she's been working out a lot so she is still a smoke show (For now).

The rest of the girls are still slutting it up or I have no contact with them.

Contrary to most guys on here, I try to date girls I would actually consider some sort of longer term relationship with (even if it's just as a part of harem or MLTR).

Yes, I dated a virgin 8.5 Mexican-American. She wasn't a good fit for me (not quite smart enough), but she seemed to have the right values.

Four years later, she's married with a kid and is still hot as hell.

Quote: (07-28-2014 11:19 AM)cmrocks Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

This scares me so much. I know it's true.

Although, you do see the odd smoking hot 45 year old woman and that gives me hope for the future.

Yeah she's thin cause does coke to keep her Twinkie-scarfing ass in shape.

3, and I know all 3 of them are and no they are not as attractive anymore.

Quote: (07-28-2014 07:58 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Yes, I dated a virgin 8.5 Mexican-American. She wasn't a good fit for me (not quite smart enough), but she seemed to have the right values.

Four years later, she's married with a kid and is still hot as hell.

I've experienced something similar and I wonder if there is a pattern in this. You can find attractive, feminine, traditional women who might seem to be great wife and mother material, but they are not intelligent.

Quote: (07-28-2014 07:58 PM)Suits Wrote:  

She wasn't a good fit for me (not quite smart enough)

Damn, I can't understand this point of view at all. My philosophy concerning value of female intelligence is pretty much the same as Scorpion's. But ok, back to the topic.

I've never been in a relationship with a wife-material woman. Here's what I consider the most important 3 qualities in a woman:

A) good-looking/thin/young (self-explanatory, I don't need a model but boner test must be passed now and for at least 20 foreseeable years)
B) good character (family values, patient, reliable, not feminist)
C) good attraction (not attracted to asshole game, doesn't require tons of game all the time)

I have never been in a relationship with a woman who had all three, not even close. I've had girls that:

- had either B and C but not A (chronically fat starting from a very young age, never to improve),
- girls who had A and B but not C, preferring being in some bad boy's harem to being married to someone normal, and
- girls who had A and C but not B, hot and attracted to reasonable amounts of game, but had awful characters - no sense of future or planning at all, poisoned by feminism, hamsterrific, slutty, unreliable

To make matters worse, a vast majority of women nowadays have just one of these factors (usually A). And I'm talking mostly Croatian and European women here, from what I've heard (and seen a little), in the anglosphere it gets far worse.

Fuck, I would be hard pressed to say if I know any women at all whom I would consider wife material, including the ones already married. There are maybe 2 or 3 exceptions, but even they still have to withstand the test of hamster time so I can't say in confidence that they're as great as they look.

I have one ex that I told I would marry way back when I still thought that was the proper end-game for relationships. She got married two years after we broke up and blew up like a blimp.

The only girl I think was marriage material was my only real LTR (2.5 years), a girl I dated in HS and my first year of college. Unfortunately she fell in love with me, and I broke her. I didn't mean to, and I actually did love her, but I am not a one woman man. She was okay with, or at least tolerant of my cheating until we took a break, then I went and banged the girl who had been my mistress for over a year during the LTR and she went berserk when she found out.

She was in an LTR with a semi-beta guy after me, but left him after 5 years when he wouldn't legally marry her. She went from being hot to a blimp during that relationship. Last I knew, she's still pretty fat, is bouncing from one guy to the next, and isn't close to getting married. We broke up about 10 years ago.

We talked off and on over the years, and from what she said she's turned into a bitter feminist type. She claims to dislike everything that she loved when she was with me. Like since I hurt her, going after guys who are my polar opposite will protect her from further pain.

So, whoops, I guess. I do feel bad, because honestly of all the girls I've been involved with she was the best, the sweetest, and the least deserving of pain.

Every other girl I thought was marriage material when I was seeing her turned out to be crazy for one reason or another. Childhood abuse, bizarre mental issues from mormon upbringing, etc.

Quote: (07-29-2014 04:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote: (07-28-2014 07:58 PM)Suits Wrote:  

She wasn't a good fit for me (not quite smart enough)

Damn, I can't understand this point of view at all. My philosophy concerning value of female intelligence is pretty much the same as Scorpion's. But ok, back to the topic.

It's pretty simple. If you are going to marry in the west, you can be sure that she'll want participation in family decision making and as such, you need to be with someone who can respond to some level of logical persuasiveness.

I can't be with a woman who argues like a dumbass and thinks she's smarter than me.

And unfortunately, modern women don't acknowledge their intellectual inferiority, so you have to handle them with kids gloves for the rest of your earthly lives.

No thanks.

Nope.

The summer before I went away to university I was on a hot streak and made out with a girl one night who refused to blow me. Since I had such abundance, I told her I would see her again and never did. She was beautiful, very smart, classy, financially loaded, with a great sense of humour and a lovely smile.

Her brother committed suicide a year later and she's been a nasty cunt ever since. She also tells everyone that she despises me for what I've done.

#NEXT

I've dated a lot of girls who were not marriage material that are married now

Quote: (07-28-2014 08:32 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Yeah, hundreds of them. I'm 45 they're all fat now. There's not one of them I'd even take out for a beer. Remember that.

Quote: (07-31-2014 09:27 AM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

I've dated a lot of girls who were not marriage material that are married now

Yeah....standard ratchet whores who got kicked off the cock carousel for hitting the wall.

Who in turn marry some chump and won't do half the things for him that she did in her slutty years.

Did I mention she found "god" and goes on social media to post about how to not judge her on her past. - I see this everyday on FB and laugh, if only their husbands knew how they were back then, poor sob's.