soup recently wanted me to provide details of what I do. Ok, I think it's a fair request after all that's what a lot of guys on here do. Talk about their "conquest" and congratulate each other for banging other American bitch. I don't have anything against that but I really don't see how it is productive. Knowing everything I do won't help you. For the simple reason that you are not me. You don't have my passive or active game. You don't have my experience or lifestyle. You are different than me and as such you won't have my tool set at your disposable. But anyway, I will give some quick examples and show how in each case you probably won't be able to do the same thing.

Approaching

I was just in a health food market. I saw a cute girl with bunch of tags in her hand. I stopped her and asked what those where. She said they were food tags. I said, oh, you work here. She said yes. At no time did she smile at me or did her eyes light up. Her attraction level was almost zero. I don't waste any more time talking to her. I roll off.

As I am passing the food register I see a really cute girl in the line. A solid 8. I wasn't planning on buying any food but now I will. I join the line behind her. I open her with a juice they have called Belly Buster. Do you think it works? She's smiles and looks away and said she's not sure. Her smile and look away tells me she's attracted to me on some level. I keep talking about the juices and ask which one she's getting. She said she's getting some juice for her daughter. That's her way of telling me she's married but I already know that from the big diamond ring on her hand. Had she not brought her daughter up I would have continued the conversation but it's difficult enough going after a married woman with her co-operation, I don't need the hassle of doing it without her co-operation. I let her go. She gives me a knowing smile as she walks out, there's a hint of sadness in it.

(In both of these cases the average guy won't have the confidence to approach these girls, especially the one in the line. They wouldn't have the professionalism to stop whatever they are doing and join the line just to talk to her. They wouldn't have the courage to keep talking even without a lot of feedback from her and with other people around. My ability to approach at will is a product of years of experience that most guys simply won't have. I don't go for numbers. I ask girls out either directly or indirectly. Not instadates, just how can we meet again and let them decide what to do. In my approaches I am looking for a girl interest/attraction level to me - that's all. If it's low, I don't waste time pursuing/talking to her. At this point in my life I can detect this within 10 seconds.)

I say no to sex often

I am walking out of Starbucks with friend and see a woman that looks like Erykah Badu sitting with another woman by the door. I make a comment about how the coffee I just bought will make me fat. She's looks at me and doesn't say anything but her friend answers instead. Saying I could use a few pounds that I was skinny - which I am. I stop and start a conversation. My friend besides me isn't saying much neither is Ms. Badu. It's me and her friend that's having a conversation. We have a good chat which I don't remember much of. Ms. Badu puts her head down on the table on her arms and is looking up at me. She's attracted but is trying to figure me out. I tell them we have to go and her friend invites me to go bowling with them. I said ok and get her friends number. Ms. Badu is the target but the friend is the social one. I met up with them at the bowling place and take a friend of mine who is a top notch pussy slayer. He goes after both of them and tries to convince them to have a three way with him. They are loving the attention from him but ultimately it doesn't lead anywhere that night. I hold back. I don't play into their frame. I am not entertaining them. I am allowing my friend to do that. Later that week I get a text from Ms. Badu inviting me out, she's intrigued. We meet by a place right next to her apartment. She's tells me she likes porn and that she watches porn every day. But I am not interested. She's only interested in me because I've turned her down. Women always want what they can't have. I told her I have an early day tomorrow and leave. She doesn't understand. I've just turned her down for sex. She keeps texting me inviting me out. I keep turning her down. I tell my friend about her porn habit and he goes wild. Starts calling her and talking dirty to her and trying to get her to come over. After keeping it up for a week or so and feeling the hurt of my rejection she finally accepts his offer. He says she's terrible in bed. Just as I thought she's a poser.

(I am not interested in notches or just sex. I am interested in good sex and I can tell if a woman will be good or not because of my experience. Most guys would have just gone and gotten the bang and congratulated themselves for it. But most guys would not have had the discipline to reject her in the first place repeatedly to get it.)

And sometimes I do have sex

Walking to a club I notice a girl standing outside looking into it. I notice from her dress that's she's a tourist girl. I like her natural beauty. With no makeup she's a 7. I approach her and tell her she should go inside it's pretty cool. She looks me over and we begin a conversation. I know she's evaluating whether she feels safe with me or not. I build comfort. No aggressive moves. She's a white American college girl down her on vacation. She was just out for a walk, dressed in jeans and sandals. She finally decides I am safe and decides to go inside with me. Inside I offer her a drink and she offers to pay. I decline and put it on my tab. She's is enjoying the atmosphere and my attention. First I just build more comfort. Get her talking about herself. After her third corona she's has loosened up quite a bit. I begin to sexualize the situation. I pull her bar stool between my legs. She is sitting facing the bar and I am sitting to her side facing her. I put my hand on her leg and slowly move it up to her pussy. She doesn't move it away and just keep talking. I am talking but I am looking at her deep into her eyes with a strong sexual intent. I keep moving my hands up her thigh until it's very close to her pussy. Then suddenly in the middle of sentence I reach in and grab her pussy. She grasp, stop talking, and just stares at me - her legs are trembling. I keep talking, pretending that nothing is going on. She breaths, taking deep breaths while I rub her pussy. I suddenly stop whatever I am saying and ask her: How does that feel? She's nods her head and stammers it feels good. She starts to look around wondering if anyone knows what is going on but everyone is just doing their thing. No one notices. They can't see my hand because she's facing the bar. The rest of the night we dance and I continue to sexualize the situation. Feeling up her ass and tits. Finally, in the middle of other conversation I just stop and kisses her forcefully. This has never happened to her and she doesn't know how to really deal with it or me. I basically sexualize her to the point where she was so horny that all I had to say was let's go. To keep a long story short I took her home and once inside I grab her by the throat and kiss her forcefully then slowly push her down to kneel in front of me. She's looks up at me, scared and excited. I loosen my belt and let me pants drop. I grab her hair from behind and push her mouth towards my dick. She begins to suck it.

(Why did I take this girl home? Because I liked her and I wanted to give her this experience. I wanted her to go back her and tell her friends that she met this crazy guy in Miami. I wanted her to have an experience she would remember for the rest of her life because she was a nice girl. It was still a lot of work. But again, none of this helps anyone on here. This was mostly about taking advantage of an opportunity. Most guys won't have the experience to see the opportunity nor the force of character to deliver the experience. Her innocence brought out the alpha in me and I can be a very strong alpha when I want to. Most guys simply won't have the experience to deliver this kind of experience to a girl. Me sitting here telling you about it won't help you in any way. This kind of stuff is mostly about capitalizing on opportunities rather than the strength of your game. The sex itself wasn't anything to write home or on here about. It's very rare for me to have a sexual experience that really excites me these days.)

I am getting tired writing this stuff...to be continued...

Nomad, you know that this tale will help people a lot. You can break down each component for the noobs. The problem with those who don't know you personally is that they think you are just on here on super beta mode pining away for love in a city that requires men to be on their super hunt mode.

Leave this thread up and a few of your bang stories from scratch - off of the road game and let the noobs dissect each passage. When you knew to pounce and when you know to lay off (the married woman in Whole Food with the diamond ring).

Could have posted something like this in the player lounge instead of starting a new thread, but this is better.

Almost all your threads read like blog stuff.. might be good for you to start one.

Quote: (06-30-2014 03:03 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

soup recently wanted me to provide details of what I do. Ok, I think it's a fair request after all that's what a lot of guys on here do. Talk about their "conquest" and congratulate each other for banging other American bitch. I don't have anything against that but I really don't see how it is productive. Knowing everything I do won't help you. For the simple reason that you are not me. You don't have my passive or active game. You don't have my experience or lifestyle. You are different than me and as such you won't have my tool set at your disposable. But anyway, I will give some quick examples and show how in each case you probably won't be able to do the same thing.

Approaching

I was just in a health food market. I saw a cute girl with bunch of tags in her hand. I stopped her and asked what those where. She said they were food tags. I said, oh, you work here. She said yes. At no time did she smile at me or did her eyes light up. Her attraction level was almost zero. I don't waste any more time talking to her. I roll off.

As I am passing the food register I see a really cute girl in the line. A solid 8. I wasn't planning on buying any food but now I will. I join the line behind her. I open her with a juice they have called Belly Buster. Do you think it works? She's smiles and looks away and said she's not sure. Her smile and look away tells me she's attracted to me on some level. I keep talking about the juices and ask which one she's getting. She said she's getting some juice for her daughter. That's her way of telling me she's married but I already know that from the big diamond ring on her hand. Had she not brought her daughter up I would have continued the conversation but it's difficult enough going after a married woman with her co-operation, I don't need the hassle of doing it without her co-operation. I let her go. She gives me a knowing smile as she walks out, there's a hint of sadness in it.

(In both of these cases the average guy won't have the confidence to approach these girls, especially the one in the line. They wouldn't have the professionalism to stop whatever they are doing and join the line just to talk to her. They wouldn't have the courage to keep talking even without a lot of feedback from her and with other people around. My ability to approach at will is a product of years of experience that most guys simply won't have. I don't go for numbers. I ask girls out either directly or indirectly. Not instadates, just how can we meet again and let them decide what to do. In my approaches I am looking for a girl interest/attraction level to me - that's all. If it's low, I don't waste time pursuing/talking to her. At this point in my life I can detect this within 10 seconds.)

I say no to sex often

I am walking out of Starbucks with friend and see a woman that looks like Erykah Badu sitting with another woman by the door. I make a comment about how the coffee I just bought will make me fat. She's looks at me and doesn't say anything but her friend answers instead. Saying I could use a few pounds that I was skinny - which I am. I stop and start a conversation. My friend besides me isn't saying much neither is Ms. Badu. It's me and her friend that's having a conversation. We have a good chat which I don't remember much of. Ms. Badu puts her head down on the table on her arms and is looking up at me. She's attracted but is trying to figure me out. I tell them we have to go and her friend invites me to go bowling with them. I said ok and get her friends number. Ms. Badu is the target but the friend is the social one. I met up with them at the bowling place and take a friend of mine who is a top notch pussy slayer. He goes after both of them and tries to convince them to have a three way with him. They are loving the attention from him but ultimately it doesn't lead anywhere that night. I hold back. I don't play into their frame. I am not entertaining them. I am allowing my friend to do that. Later that week I get a text from Ms. Badu inviting me out, she's intrigued. We meet by a place right next to her apartment. She's tells me she likes porn and that she watches porn every day. But I am not interested. She's only interested in me because I've turned her down. Women always want what they can't have. I told her I have an early day tomorrow and leave. She doesn't understand. I've just turned her down for sex. She keeps texting me inviting me out. I keep turning her down. I tell my friend about her porn habit and he goes wild. Starts calling her and talking dirty to her and trying to get her to come over. After keeping it up for a week or so and feeling the hurt of my rejection she finally accepts his offer. He says she's terrible in bed. Just as I thought she's a poser.

(I am not interested in notches or just sex. I am interested in good sex and I can tell if a woman will be good or not because of my experience. Most guys would have just gone and gotten the bang and congratulated themselves for it. But most guys would not have had the discipline to reject her in the first place repeatedly to get it.)

And sometimes I do have sex

Walking to a club I notice a girl standing outside looking into it. I notice from her dress that's she's a tourist girl. I like her natural beauty. With no makeup she's a 7. I approach her and tell her she should go inside it's pretty cool. She looks me over and we begin a conversation. I know she's evaluating whether she feels safe with me or not. I build comfort. No aggressive moves. She's a white American college girl down her on vacation. She was just out for a walk, dressed in jeans and sandals. She finally decides I am safe and decides to go inside with me. Inside I offer her a drink and she offers to pay. I decline and put it on my tab. She's is enjoying the atmosphere and my attention. First I just build more comfort. Get her talking about herself. After her third corona she's has loosened up quite a bit. I begin to sexualize the situation. I pull her bar stool between my legs. She is sitting facing the bar and I am sitting to her side facing her. I put my hand on her leg and slowly move it up to her pussy. She doesn't move it away and just keep talking. I am talking but I am looking at her deep into her eyes with a strong sexual intent. I keep moving my hands up her thigh until it's very close to her pussy. Then suddenly in the middle of sentence I reach in and grab her pussy. She grasp, stop talking, and just stares at me - her legs are trembling. I keep talking, pretending that nothing is going on. She breaths, taking deep breaths while I rub her pussy. I suddenly stop whatever I am saying and ask her: How does that feel? She's nods her head and stammers it feels good. She starts to look around wondering if anyone knows what is going on but everyone is just doing their thing. No one notices. They can't see my hand because she's facing the bar. The rest of the night we dance and I continue to sexualize the situation. Feeling up her ass and tits. Finally, in the middle of other conversation I just stop and kisses her forcefully. This has never happened to her and she doesn't know how to really deal with it or me. I basically sexualize her to the point where she was so horny that all I had to say was let's go. To keep a long story short I took her home and once inside I grab her by the throat and kiss her forcefully then slowly push her down to kneel in front of me. She's looks up at me, scared and excited. I loosen my belt and let me pants drop. I grab her hair from behind and push her mouth towards my dick. She begins to suck it.

(Why did I take this girl home? Because I liked her and I wanted to give her this experience. I wanted her to go back her and tell her friends that she met this crazy guy in Miami. I wanted her to have an experience she would remember for the rest of her life because she was a nice girl. It was still a lot of work. But again, none of this helps anyone on here. This was mostly about taking advantage of an opportunity. Most guys won't have the experience to see the opportunity nor the force of character to deliver the experience. Her innocence brought out the alpha in me and I can be a very strong alpha when I want to. Most guys simply won't have the experience to deliver this kind of experience to a girl. Me sitting here telling you about it won't help you in any way. This kind of stuff is mostly about capitalizing on opportunities rather than the strength of your game. The sex itself wasn't anything to write home or on here about. It's very rare for me to have a sexual experience that really excites me these days.)

I am getting tired writing this stuff...to be continued...

While I understand that your game cannot be duplicated or even copied to much extent as everyone is uniquely themselves....I find this post very helpful Nomad.

I learned several things such as reading how you incorporate aggressiveness when you sense an opportunity. How you eject when you aren't "feeling" it....and when to persist when you are. Though your exact style probably won't be duplicated, there are some good themes here that could be used.

Wouldn't mind seeing more.

Ok, but all of those things are a product of my experience. I don't think about them. You can only get to that point by going out there and doing the work. You won't learn how and when to apply them by reading about it. You will only learn from your own experiences. It's like learning tennis. It doesn't matter how much tennis you watch or read about. Your game will only be as good as the amount of time you put into practicing and actually playing the game. As the saying goes: I can walk the road with you BUT I cannot walk the road for you

I am in Starbucks waiting for business meeting. The girl behind the counter is a cute blonde girl, young, under twenty. I've been checking her out but how do I approach her behind the counter while she's making all of those drinks? An old woman starts complaining she didn't get her drink and I see my opportunity. I told her I would check into it for her, I am now assisting the old woman. I go over to the blonde girl and told her the old woman doesn't have her drink. She said, oh, she was sorry but the drink was right here. I take the drink to the old woman and calm her down while looking at the girl and smiling. She's silently thanks me and smiles. I have now entered her world, she's aware of me but the attraction isn't there. I won't pursue her. Again, how many guys would go to this extreme to meet a girl working in Starbucks or be able to even think of doing it? Not many, again, the ability to see an opportunity and execute on it is a product of my experience not my game.

On the other hand there is cute blonde standing in front me. She looks over and smiles. The attraction is there but a guy looks back and says something to her. She's is waiting on him. They leave together. As she walks out the door she looks back briefly. If she hadn't left I would have begun analyzing the situation for a solution to meeting her because the attraction was there.

This is all I am doing when I am out. Looking for girls that are attracted to me on some basic level. I am not interested in a girl that isn't interested in me.

Sounds like older guy game to me.

Nothing wrong with that obviously, as it's what I do.

I am an older guy but I didn't do anything differently when I was younger. What's the difference between a younger guy game and older guy game?

I don't know that the game itself is all that different, however with experience one notices the tells that one overlooks when still learning.

Most older guys won't chase everything out there, but rather go for those that display the signs showing they are open as getting every last notch is not the important thing any longer.

I actually got a better idea of your game and where you are coming from in the other thread about Roosh's video and I'm very similar.

I prefer a connection to just banging random girls for the most part. That doesn't mean I never go for the layup, but I don't put as much effort into a girl that I know isn't the type I am looking for other than her appearance.

Great stuff Nomad keep it coming. I love your "passive" game (passive in quotes because it's still active, just in using more natural tactics).

This girl just walked into the Starbucks and ordered some drinks. She then came over by my area to collect them. She meets my two requirements for approaching a girl:

1. I find her attractive on some minimal level.
2. She is in a situation that permits an approach.

Anytime a girl meets these two general requirements I force myself to do the approach. I get up and stretch and comments that sitting down so much messed with your back. She smiles and agrees with me. In that instance I can tell from her face she is attracted to me enough. I continue, I ask her about what drink she ordered. She goes into this long description about some custom made drink. She's here getting a drink for her mother. So her mother is waiting on her. I ask if she lives around here she does, with her family. She's in college studying physical therapy. She ask me if I live around here. I told her I am thinking about it. I actually own a house close to her but I am renting it out. I can't tell her that. It would demonstrate too much value. We talk about the area and she tells me how great it is and what's around here to see and do. I tell her cool. We should meet up sometime and she agrees. I give her my phone and she enters her number. She reminds me what her name was. I tell her, let me take a photo of you so I won't forget. She like this and poses for me.

(I can do this stuff day in and day out blindfolded. It doesn't mean anything to me. Again, while this may seem easy it is not. It's only seem easy because it is a product of my experience. It's difficult talking to a girl in this way in front of a bunch of people. I don't know if I will see her again. This is a good hour and half from where I live. But this is a really sweet girl.)

Great stuff Nomad keep it coming. I love your "passive" game (passive in quotes because it's still active, just in using more natural tactics).

Quote: (06-30-2014 03:52 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

This is all I am doing when I am out. Looking for girls that are attracted to me on some basic level. I am not interested in a girl that isn't interested in me.

This reminded me...I have a friend who's a natural...the type of natural who is introspective and I can talk red-pill shit with but who's never heard of red pill or the game or manosphere. He told me one time "It's not about having sex with the girl. It's about them being attracted to you...becoming obsessed with you." I know that's only partially true, but there's shit-tons of wisdom in that.

Edit: I guess it's probably just me but I wouldn't post face pics of my chics (even potentials) online. Just my thought.

Why don't you come up and visit Tampa? Your boy here is getting more ass than a Chinese phone book.

@Heavy Exactly. A girl once asked me what I wanted from her? I told her: I want a piece of your heart and I want it forever.

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:31 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Why don't you come up and visit Tampa? Your boy here is getting more ass than a Chinese phone book.

I can happily host him. The lizards here are real not make believe that those useless heiffers in Miami.

By the way, is there ass in a chinese phone book?

Nomad, you said reading about it won't help one improve at game but isn't that the same concept of talking about why one hates life and why one needs to be a clown to get lizards?

Also, older game differs from younger game. Older game has more patience. Older guys know when to eject instead of wasting time courting bullsh!t from younger lizards.

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:36 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:31 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Why don't you come up and visit Tampa? Your boy here is getting more ass than a Chinese phone book.

I can happily host him. The lizards here are real not make believe that those useless heiffers in Miami.

By the way, is there ass in a chinese phone book?

American joke.

Nomad do use online? What kind of girl do you want to date? LTR or no?

No, for me, online dating is a waste of time. Far easier to just go out and meet girls for real. I am already dating one. Really great girl. I am into building relationships, multiple relationships.

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:43 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

No, for me, online dating is a waste of time. Far easier to just go out and meet girls for real. I am already dating one. Really great girl. I am into building relationships, multiple relationships.

So you want to be able to have sex with multiple women at the same time but all of them know you have more than one woman? Is that it?

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:26 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

She ask me if I live around here. I told her I am thinking about it. I actually own a house close to her but I am renting it out. I can't tell her that. It would demonstrate too much value.

I don't understand. Are you trying to make sure that she's into you without that information?

@Chapped3rdEye I already know she is into me. That was confirmed by her talking about her drink for so long. If she wasn't she would just be polite and leave. After all her mother is waiting on her. You want to demonstrate value to a girl but not too much. If you demonstrate too much she make think you are boosting or she may feel intimidated by you.

Not speaking for Nomad, but in my opinion it is better to demonstrate value passively versus overtly if one is looking for a relationship with some depth to it.

Hot milfs sits down at my table in Starbucks and completely ignores me. I check her out and she's married - big diamond ring. I ignore her. At one point she comes over to put her laptop into the outlet behind me and I tell her I was leaving she could have it. She smiles a big smile and starts flirting with me. It's the perfect opportunity to open her but I know she's just looking for attention and validation. I don't give her any. I leave. She smiles at me as I walk out.

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:45 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (06-30-2014 04:43 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

No, for me, online dating is a waste of time. Far easier to just go out and meet girls for real. I am already dating one. Really great girl. I am into building relationships, multiple relationships.

So you want to be able to have sex with multiple women at the same time but all of them know you have more than one woman? Is that it?

I usually have a main girl and multiple affairs. They do not have to know explicitly about each other but they usually know something is up.

A few days ago a Russian woman friends me on facebook. She knows this other Russian girl I know and some other people. She likes all the red pill stuff I write about. She's got a great body but her face is only like a 6 by my standards. She posts a video of two dogs. One dog is licking the dick of the other dog. I commented on the video that Russian women are perverts. She likes the comment. She likes ALL of my comments. She would meet me if I ask her out...I might, depending on how I feel. facebook is the extent of my online game. facebook game is all about demonstrating value via your social associations. Girls will look at who you know and who is talking with you.